http://globalnews.ca/news...ng-a-grizzly-bear-in-b-c/



Was a fan of Stoner based solely on his name.
Now, not so much.

Sedin - Sedin
Edler

Vrbata - Sutter
Tanev

Burrows - Baertschi
Weber

? I am not sure what Willy is going to put together. I would love to see Horvat see 3v3 ice time. I am a little biased tho

i'm pretty sure that's what nucker wants.... with respect to this message board.
- RealityChecker

i'm pretty sure that's what nucker wants.... with respect to this message board.
- RealityChecker

Sedin - Sedin
Edler

Vrbata - Sutter
Tanev

Burrows - Baertschi
Weber

? I am not sure what Willy is going to put together. I would love to see Horvat see 3v3 ice time. I am a little biased tho
- Codes1087

my computer analysis has determined that a 4 on 3 power play in overtime is virtually undefendable.

i suggest pulling the goalie every OT to give us this "power play."

you're welcome jim benning. gimme a call when you really want to win some games.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2225913/nhl-player-charged-after-killing-a-grizzly-bear-in-b-c/



Was a fan of Stoner based solely on his name.
Now, not so much.
- dbot

I'm against Grizzly Bear hunting....but truthfully he hasn't really done anything wrong other than they're deeming him a non-resident which is semantics really. It's about political correctness.

Whether people like it or not he applied for and received a limited permit to hunt Grizzly. Now they're saying he shouldn't have received the permit (or applied) because he wasn't in the country long enough during a calendar year to be classified as a resident due to his professional occupation.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2225913/nhl-player-charged-after-killing-a-grizzly-bear-in-b-c/



Was a fan of Stoner based solely on his name.
Now, not so much.
- dbot

The thing about this story is that it likely would never of gotten print if it wasn't for his idiotic photo with the head and the fact it was a NHL player.

100's of Grizzlies are killed each year legally for their heads/paws etc., as was this one, at least with him receiving permission from the govt.

I have no problem hunting and do support it but unfortunately the province still believes in allowing people to head hunt animals for trophy's which is pointless IMO.

Is Stoner a bad person for trophy hunting? maybe Is the govt bad for allowing this practice? definitely.

The thing about this story is that it likely would never of gotten print if it wasn't for his idiotic photo with the head and the fact it was a NHL player.

100's of Grizzlies are killed each year legally for their heads/paws etc., as was this one, at least with him receiving permission from the govt.

I have no problem hunting and do support it but unfortunately the province still believes in allowing people to head hunt animals for trophy's which is pointless IMO.

Is Stoner a bad person for trophy hunting? maybe Is the govt bad for allowing this practice? definitely.
- belcherbd

The Grizzly population in BC is estimated at 15,000 - each year 160 permits are handed out for hunting purposes, so it's not "hundreds". But I do agree that hunting such a majestic animal for trophy purposes is silly. However, it's not illegal, according to Christy Clarke.

The Grizzly population in BC is estimated at 15,000 - each year 160 permits are handed out for hunting purposes, so it's not "hundreds". But I do agree that hunting such a majestic animal for trophy purposes is silly. However, it's not illegal, according to Christy Clarke.
- LeftCoaster

You're I should of said over a hundred, I couldn't recall the exact amount.

And that is my issues that this govt think issuing 160 licenses are appropriate. I think there should be a cigarette rule applies to trophy hunting.

You want to shoot a bear for it's head ? Fine then I'm going to sit here and watch you eat the entire thing.

It's amazing how much money Grizzly watching tours bring into this economy compared to trophy hunters and yet that seems to be the justification.

I'm against Grizzly Bear hunting....but truthfully he hasn't really done anything wrong other than they're deeming him a non-resident which is semantics really. It's about political correctness.

Whether people like it or not he applied for and received a limited permit to hunt Grizzly. Now they're saying he shouldn't have received the permit (or applied) because he wasn't in the country long enough during a calendar year to be classified as a resident due to his professional occupation.
- LeftCoaster

Nobody cares about the animals that were not in the cartoons they watched as children. The ones that are create so many tear jerking emotions... fascinating. Hollywood influence...

Note how so many people are willing to let the southern Mountain Caribou go extinct so some wolves who are over populating regions don't get harmed. There is no logic behind it... once the Caribou come back to sustainable numbers... the wolves very quickly will return. The cull would only be in a small number of isolated areas down the central mountain ranges. I'd to see these people pay tens of millions to safely capture and relocate those wolves.

You're I should of said over a hundred, I couldn't recall the exact amount.

And that is my issues that this govt think issuing 160 licenses are appropriate. I think there should be a cigarette rule applies to trophy hunting.

You want to shoot a bear for it's head ? Fine then I'm going to sit here and watch you eat the entire thing.

It's amazing how much money Grizzly watching tours bring into this economy compared to trophy hunters and yet that seems to be the justification.
- belcherbd

I didn't take into account non-resident applicants, so the actual total number of resident and non-resident is around 300.

Had to look it up...

Nobody cares about the animals that were not in the cartoons they watched as children. The ones that are create so many tear jerking emotions... fascinating. Hollywood influence...

Note how so many people are willing to let the southern Mountain Caribou go extinct so some wolves who are over populating regions don't get harmed. There is no logic behind it... once the Caribou come back to sustainable numbers... the wolves very quickly will return. The cull would only be in a small number of isolated areas down the central mountain ranges. I'd to see these people pay tens of millions to safely capture and relocate those wolves.

- boonerbuck

It's an emotional thing for some people for sure. I do not base my opinions on cartoons or emotions, I also hunt and fish. I've held a moose head in my hands for pictures, does that make me a savage in some peoples eyes...could care less to be honest. I eat what I kill...that's my rule.

That said, I'm not oppose to killing animals to control population or save another species....in fact I'd like to kill about 20,000 blacktails around Victoria!

I shot a squirrel in my backyard with a pellet gun a couple of days ago...I'm sorry lol.

The thing about this story is that it likely would never of gotten print if it wasn't for his idiotic photo with the head and the fact it was a NHL player.

100's of Grizzlies are killed each year legally for their heads/paws etc., as was this one, at least with him receiving permission from the govt.

I have no problem hunting and do support it but unfortunately the province still believes in allowing people to head hunt animals for trophy's which is pointless IMO.

Is Stoner a bad person for trophy hunting? maybe Is the govt bad for allowing this practice? definitely.
- belcherbd

Head Hunting is inaccurate. That's illegal here. Hollywood has created this myth.

If you took out only head and/or paws... you are getting nailed as a poacher. All hunting is far more restricted and enforced than you know. Bear parts has a set iof restrictions. The entire hide and skull has to be taken out of the field. With Black bears, the meat as well. You do not do this, you are a poacher who should be charged. Yes, in the case of the Grizzly, it's still a trophy hunt. I get what you are saying there.

Making the grizzly huint illegal wont save many bears. Canada outlawed the polar Bear hunts but first nations are still selling guided hunts to rich aliens. Our cowardly government won't enforce against first nations and funny how it's the hunters who are blamed for it. Kind of backwards right? They would do the same with the grizzly hunt.

Nobody cares about the animals that were not in the cartoons they watched as children. The ones that are create so many tear jerking emotions... fascinating. Hollywood influence...

Note how so many people are willing to let the southern Mountain Caribou go extinct so some wolves who are over populating regions don't get harmed. There is no logic behind it... once the Caribou come back to sustainable numbers... the wolves very quickly will return. The cull would only be in a small number of isolated areas down the central mountain ranges. I'd to see these people pay tens of millions to safely capture and relocate those wolves.

- boonerbuck

The wolf Cull is a different issue altogether, and it is going to cost millions to shoot them with Helicopters as well. The wolf Cull is appropriate but lets not pretend the Caribou are going extinct because of Wolves over populating. This is a short term fix. Deforestation, climate issues and resource extraction are the bigger cause of the Caribou decline.

Head Hunting is inaccurate. That's illegal here. Hollywood has created this myth.

If you took out only head and/or paws... you are getting nailed as a poacher. All hunting is far more restricted and enforced than you know. Bear parts has a set iof restrictions. The entire hide and skull has to be taken out of the field. With Black bears, the meat as well. You do not do this, you are a poacher who should be charged. Yes, in the case of the Grizzly, it's still a trophy hunt. I get what you are saying there.

Making the grizzly huint illegal wont save many bears. Canada outlawed the polar Bear hunts but first nations are still selling guided hunts to rich aliens. Our cowardly government won't enforce against first nations and funny how it's the hunters who are blamed for it. Kind of backwards right? They would do the same with the grizzly hunt.
- boonerbuck

You're right I don't know all the ins and outs of which bear parts need to be taken out of the field. But just because they are taken out doesn't mean the the Head and Paws are not the only part being sought after.

Again I blame the govt for allowing this/

It's extremely stupid. Not sure why it's still legal.
- Nucker101

I have no idea, their numbers are really low but the current government in BC won't stop the hunt even though most would like it stopped...me included!!

You're I should of said over a hundred, I couldn't recall the exact amount.

And that is my issues that this govt think issuing 160 licenses are appropriate. I think there should be a cigarette rule applies to trophy hunting.

You want to shoot a bear for it's head ? Fine then I'm going to sit here and watch you eat the entire thing.

It's amazing how much money Grizzly watching tours bring into this economy compared to trophy hunters and yet that seems to be the justification.
- belcherbd

This is something that pushes bears off of critical feeding grounds. Another myth how this is bear friendly... it's far worse. One bear would be taken out of that group and left alone to continue with their survival... the tourists now are walking on boardwalks and platforms all around these bears and they are showing up less and less each season. Grizzlies are easlily pushed away from high human activity. The outfit will then blame hunters who took only one of those bears in that region... hollywood...lol

The wolf Cull is a different issue altogether, and it is going to cost millions to shoot them with Helicopters as well. The wolf Cull is appropriate but lets not pretend the Caribou are going extinct because of Wolves over populating. This is a short term fix. Deforestation, climate issues and resource extraction are the bigger cause of the Caribou decline.
- belcherbd

I nor anyone is blaming the wolves for their decline.

The problem didn't start with the wolves no... but the wolves focus on the tiny easy to chase in the deep snow herd and are going to be what ends their existence. Thats far more important than emotions and blame.

Still don't know where Virt fits if he makes the team but I'd really like to see where he's at compared to NHL caliber players.
- LeftCoaster

I think JVs style energy speed and toughness will move Higgins out

I think JVs style energy speed and toughness will move Higgins out
- VANTEL

I'll rejoice when that day comes around!!!!!!!!!!!

I think JVs style energy speed and toughness will move Higgins out
- VANTEL

For sure. I just hope people don't sour too soon on JV because he's going to take some time to be responsible I think.

For sure. I just hope people don't sour too soon on JV because he's going to take some time to be responsible I think.
- boonerbuck

Oh it'll happen...he won't score more than 8 to 12 times his first few years so he'll be a bust. People have no patience.

You're right I don't know all the ins and outs of which bear parts need to be taken out of the field. But just because they are taken out doesn't mean the the Head and Paws are not the only part being sought after.

Again I blame the govt for allowing this/
- belcherbd

The government is greedy. I'd definitely support the introduction of a regulation to remove the meat which on an animal this large, would deter so many hunts.

This is kind of funny timing. A guy who fished beside me this morning was just complaining how a grizzly just ate the seat off his ATV the other day out in the bush. After that a local friend here just pulled up to my camp spot and has a grizzly draw and is going out today looking.

Oh it'll happen...he won't score more than 8 to 12 times his first few years so he'll be a bust. People have no patience.


- LeftCoaster

... not the coach I hope.

i thought we'd hear from booner and lefty on this one.

i know it's hypocritical to favour some animals over others, especially as a meat eater.
Just don't like seeing trophy hunts.
The article made it sound like the carcass was left to rot and not used. I don't know if this was accurate or not.