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TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Sep 17 @ 4:34 PM ET
Save me some back reading - are people upset about losing Finn the most? Nillson?
- 1979AD



I think Verhaege more than anyone
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 17 @ 4:35 PM ET
"He brings exceptional speed," general manager Lou Lamoriello said. "There's no question that he's one of the top penalty killers in the League. He pushes other people and he pushes the defense back."

Does that help? And is Lou used to lying to NJ fans who don't know much about hockey? Cus I don't even think The President believes that BS.

- 1979AD


My issue with this trade is that it goes against the philosphy we were sold and had been both expecting and hoping for. We got a 27 soon to be pending ufa for 5 young players/prospects. Who cares about this teams speed and pk. It was supposed to be a year of pains and transition, while we focused on developing youth. Now we have an assload of maybes with no future on this team, and a year from now were stilll not going to know anything about our youth and the future of this team.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 17 @ 4:35 PM ET
Patrick Kane made a statement:

"This has been an incredibly difficult time for many people. I cannot apologize enough for the distraction caused to my family, teammates, this incredible organization, and of course our fans. While I have too much respect for legal process to comment on a legal matter, I am confident that once all the facts come to light, I will be absolved of having done nothing wrong."

HE'S GUILTY! HE ADMITTED IT!
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Sep 17 @ 4:35 PM ET
This trade has a distinct odour about it. None of the guys traded were in the ESPN list of Leaf top prospects, but I still don't like the concept at all.

This doesn't make any sense unless there is a part two still to come

- Rang


How doesn't it?

Trim the fat by moving a bunch of contracts that were far down the leafs depth chart. Make room for some of the guys who were more impressive at prospect camp and sign a few PTOs that can be flipped to recoup picks.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Sep 17 @ 4:38 PM ET
I've had to digest and think the trade over.

Nothings changed. Still a brutal deal.

- systemtool

Yea if Kessel had scored 40 for the Leafs this year,they would get game changers in return
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Sep 17 @ 4:38 PM ET
Patrick Kane made a statement:

"This has been an incredibly difficult time for many people. I cannot apologize enough for the distraction caused to my family, teammates, this incredible organization, and of course our fans. While I have too much respect for legal process to comment on a legal matter, I am confident that once all the facts come to light, I will be absolved of having done nothing wrong."

HE'S GUILTY! HE ADMITTED IT!

- markmark

Of what
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Sep 17 @ 4:39 PM ET
My issue with this trade is that it goes against the philosphy we were sold and had been both expecting and hoping for. We got a 27 soon to be pending ufa for 5 young players/prospects. Who cares about this teams speed and pk. It was supposed to be a year of pains and transition, while we focused on developing youth. Now we have an assload of maybes with no future on this team, and a year from now were stilll not going to know anything about our youth and the future of this team.
- systemtool


I don't think this derails that plan. I like to think they wanted to unload some contracts (they can only hold 50 at a time) for flexibility and didn't think any of those prospects were going to turn out, and there's the outside hope that Grabner can rekindle the magic and become a commodity tradeable for real prospect(s)/picks.

If anything, I'm pumped with the short term vet contracts and PTOs. Last year showed how valuable the strategy of signing vets with something to prove to short deals and trading them to contenders at the deadline can be, and I expect this deadline to be even better as long as some of those guys show they can help teams.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 17 @ 4:39 PM ET
I have had some time to think about this trade..and still meh

It will depend on whats done with the contract spaces created. and we wont know the full outcome until the end of the season

Could work out for the leafs


David Johnson ‏@hockeyanalysis
5v5 G/60 over last 3 seasons. Kessel: 1.02 Grabner: 0.99. Kessel played with Bozak, Grabner played with Frans Nielsen/Brock Nelson.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Sep 17 @ 4:39 PM ET
wasnt it a&e
- TheMussel


ya actully

off by a couple of letters....
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 17 @ 4:41 PM ET
Of what
- Landsbergfan


Not doing nothing wrong!

Just remember. A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.
Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D...
Joined: 08.07.2013

Sep 17 @ 4:42 PM ET
BREAKING:

Leafman trades Landsbergfan and markmark to the Habs' thread for ban immunity for DoubleDown and Pecafan Fan whilst in the Leaf thread.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
BREAKING:

Leafman trades Landsbergfan and markmark to the Habs' thread for ban immunity for DoubleDown and Pecafan Fan whilst in the Leaf thread.

- Not_Stee


That's fedorable.
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Sep 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
How doesn't it?

Trim the fat by moving a bunch of contracts that were far down the leafs depth chart. Make room for some of the guys who were more impressive at prospect camp and sign a few PTOs that can be flipped to recoup picks.

- HealthyScratch6


I guess my concern is they are prospects with potential. We know what Grabner is, we are not sure what Finn and Verhaege are going to be, or Gibson for that matter.

Right now those guys are farther down the depth chart, but the light bulb could go off and they become good players for a flaky guy with 1 year left on his deal
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
I don't think this derails that plan. I like to think they wanted to unload some contracts (they can only hold 50 at a time) for flexibility and didn't think any of those prospects were going to turn out, and there's the outside hope that Grabner can rekindle the magic and become a commodity tradeable for real prospect(s)/picks.

If anything, I'm pumped with the short term vet contracts and PTOs. Last year showed how valuable the strategy of signing vets with something to prove to short deals and trading them to contenders at the deadline can be, and I expect this deadline to be even better as long as some of those guys show they can help teams.

- 1979AD


While I respect your view and opinion, I have to disagree. Guess its agree to disagree on this subject.
Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D...
Joined: 08.07.2013

Sep 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
That's fedorable.
- markmark

.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
BREAKING:

Leafman trades Landsbergfan and markmark to the Habs' thread for ban immunity for DoubleDown and Pecafan Fan whilst in the Leaf thread.

- Not_Stee


We got Kane'd!

That makes twice in one day!
lotempio8119
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: niagara falls
Joined: 01.10.2012

Sep 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
I have had some time to think about this trade..and still meh

It will depend on whats done with the contract spaces created. and we wont know the full outcome until the end of the season

Could work out for the leafs

- senstroll



i think so, if he stays healthy he can...

1. Help the leafs win games
2. Most importantly if he plays well with him having 1 year left on his deal possibly flip him at the deadline
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Sep 17 @ 4:46 PM ET
Not doing nothing wrong!

Just remember. A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.

- markmark

Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D...
Joined: 08.07.2013

Sep 17 @ 4:47 PM ET
While I respect your view and opinion, I have to disagree. Guess its agree to disagree on this subject.
- systemtool

Now that wifey's gone, you and I can tear it up in Coo-buh one of these times.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Sep 17 @ 4:47 PM ET
While I respect your view and opinion, I have to disagree. Guess its agree to disagree on this subject.
- systemtool


WTF is that!? This is the internet.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Sep 17 @ 4:47 PM ET
BREAKING:

Leafman trades Landsbergfan and markmark to the Habs' thread for ban immunity for DoubleDown and Pecafan Fan whilst in the Leaf thread.

- Not_Stee

Wrong Lou, you're thinking Lou Lamoriello.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
Wrong Lou, you're thinking Lou Lamoriello.
- LeafMan


It's gonna take a while to get used to hear his name linked to the Leafs
Not_Stee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You only say that because people aren't willing to pay more at your place to watch it in 3D...
Joined: 08.07.2013

Sep 17 @ 4:49 PM ET
Wrong Lou, you're thinking Lou Lamoriello.
- LeafMan

C'mon... Adam & Marty are pretty dece.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Sep 17 @ 4:49 PM ET
It's gonna take a while to get used to hear his name linked to the Leafs
- Pecafan Fan

I know
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Sep 17 @ 4:50 PM ET
C'mon... Adam & Marty are pretty dece.
- Not_Stee

I have no problem with them, they tell it like it is, I respect that.
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