why does no one see the fact that the leafs are not guaranteed any future draft picks after this is all said and done?

it's like a foregone conclusion all these mid level and last chance guys are going to have career years and yield great returns. I think this is highly unlikely.
- vermie22

the Leafs don't care, they want contact and cap space

can you guarantee grabner or any of the possible PTO guys will be equate to draft picks that are better than the ones they gave up? my bet is on the very real possibility they end with less prospects and they will have less potential.
- vermie22

Out of the guys they gave up Nilsson has bottom pairing potential neck and verhaeghe might some day be mediocre bottom 6 guys Gibson is an ahler and Finn is going to be 22 playing in the ECHL all those guys are easily replaceable. I'd rather have the picks for a shot at a Connor Brown even if they're late found picks

why does no one see the fact that the leafs are not guaranteed any future draft picks after this is all said and done?

it's like a foregone conclusion all these mid level and last chance guys are going to have career years and yield great returns. I think this is highly unlikely.
- vermie22

It's all part of the risk

That is why I said give him away plus the others to sign more PTO's. The more chances for late round picks to replace the prospects the better it seems with Hunter.
- LeafMan

Another sarcastic reply like that, and I'll give you a week off to think about your behavior here.










Wait, you'd probably like that.

Damn.

Out of the guys they gave up Nilsson has bottom pairing potential neck and verhaeghe might some day be mediocre bottom 6 guys Gibson is an ahler and Finn is going to be 22 playing in the ECHL all those guys are easily replaceable. I'd rather have the picks for a shot at a Connor Brown even if they're late found picks
- HealthyScratch6

what picks? they don't have any yet.

the Leafs don't care, they want contact and cap space
- the_eye

They actually have less cap space with this deal. This was trying to fix a huge mistake by the so called brain trust signing a whole bunch of players without thinking it through.

The prospects we gave up had no potential. Id rather have one good prospects than five poopty ones
- cesareborgia

But there is also a strong chance that those 5 prospects become zero prospects.

Since Garth Snow is involved could be a good sign Leafs won this deal

what picks? they don't have any yet.
- vermie22

It's true. This is a bit of a gamble. They are banking that some of these single year contracts will pan out in there favor as a short term investment. If they even get two good picks out of a potential subsequent trade - job well done.

Since Garth Snow is involved could be a good sign Leafs won this deal
- Landsbergfan

They actually have less cap space with this deal. This was trying to fix a huge mistake by the so called brain trust signing a whole bunch of players without thinking it through.
- LeafMan

Grabner has 1 year left at $3 milly.

Who cares about his cap hit?

No way the Leafs get near the cap ceiling this year.

They actually have less cap space with this deal. This was trying to fix a huge mistake by the so called brain trust signing a whole bunch of players without thinking it through.
- LeafMan

they do have less, but next year it will be aplenty.
and they didn't sign any PTO's just yet.
I think they could get a couple of decent players for JVR, so there's an extra contract there

Since Garth Snow is involved could be a good sign Leafs won this deal
- Landsbergfan

I know it's fun for 29 fan bases to make fun of any Islanders GM, but the scary truth is Snow has done a damn good job lately.

They actually have less cap space with this deal. This was trying to fix a huge mistake by the so called brain trust signing a whole bunch of players without thinking it through.
- LeafMan

Why do you think this move wasn't thought-through.

Since Garth Snow is involved could be a good sign Leafs won this deal
- Landsbergfan

Would have been more confident if the Flyers management were involved, to be honest with you.

they do have less, but next year it will be aplenty.
and they didn't sign any PTO's just yet.
I think they could get a couple of decent players for JVR, so there's an extra contract there
- the_eye

Usually things backfire for the Leafs, I hope it is not arrogant thinking they know more than other teams because frankly, they don't.

Why do you think this move wasn't thought-through.
- A_Tree

Well let's see, they gave up five prospects for PTO players that nobody wanted, call it a hunch.

You need to repeat troll school.

You are failing miserably.
- Atomic Wedgie

He was awesome on the TSN boards. He maybe just needs time to adjust to the pace and the size of the posters here.

It's true. This is a bit of a gamble. They are banking that some of these single year contracts will pan out in there favor as a short term investment. If they even get two good picks out of a potential subsequent trade - job well done.
- A_Tree

yes a gamble I would never take. I would work with what I have, and make sure I am doing my best to back-fill any deadwood i need to cut away. The chance what I have will pan out is > than the chance I strike it rich on something I likely will never get.

I guess this why people play the lottery every week, where I would rather save the money I have and buy an ipad or something at the end of the year instead.

Since Garth Snow is involved could be a good sign Leafs won this deal
- Landsbergfan

Could be but draft and prospects is sometimes or always a crapshoot
- Landsbergfan

Right and it looks like they want to take their chances with their own picks.

Well let's see, they gave up five prospects for PTO players that nobody wanted, call it a hunch.
- LeafMan

I think Boyes is the only sure thing.
Glencross maybe 50 percent

I know it's fun for 29 fan bases to make fun of any Islanders GM, but the scary truth is Snow has done a damn good job lately.
- Atomic Wedgie

and it makes no (frank)ing sense

Well let's see, they gave up five prospects for PTO players that nobody wanted, call it a hunch.
- LeafMan

It also opens up a waiver pickup as well.

Right and it looks like they want to take their chances with their own picks.
- senstroll

Same thing Burke did