you've clearly never seen me post if you even have to question my posting etiquette.

spoiler: it's not good
- daeth

Now I'm intrigued

What can I tell you nobody like a rat
- Vukota

Rat .... He was in our blog, (frank) you.

I feel like Garth Snow just acquired more, pound for pound...over what we did for the Kessel trade. In terms of actual skill. What kind of trade is this? I think a 3rd rounder would have been enough for some one like Grabner.
- ThePresident

Just wow.

We got a NHL player for poope and everyone's cheesed. Typical.

the weights can't be quantified as the assets are prospects, and we don't know what they will be...esepcially the one they might get down the road. they are completely unknown.
- vermie22

You could probably apply some form of statistical analysis in order to determine the probability that they earn an NHL roster spot one day, and the number of points they'd score.

Just collect all former prospect data from hockeydb and plug into stata

I was pontificating about just this last night with a friend (beer was involved).

Our basic assessment of this year's roster (forgive me if I've forgotten anyone):

Elite players: Phaneuf (yeah, feel free to poop your pants disagreeing with me)

Good players: Lupul, JVR

Guys who we hope start reaching their full potential: Rielly, Kadri, Panik. Maybe Bernier (I don't agree with this)

Wild card: Gardiner

That's 7 or 8 guys who I actually care about. The rest I sincerely do not give two poops about - you could trade them tomorrow and plug the holes with other stiffs and it wouldn't make a difference to either the Leafs' record or my level of Caresi.

It's the apathy that unites us all.
- Atomic Wedgie

Whether or not Phaneuf can improve is the most interesting question this year. After that maybe seeing if Kadri can develop (I don't think so) or Rielly can improve as we think he can.

Other than that, I am with you, the entire rest of the roster is meaningless to me.

I guess we greatly differ on what is elite.
- LeafMan

I think JVR is closer to being elite than phaneuf.. But the leafs traded their only elite player in July.

We have elite talent (Reilly, nylander, marner) but no elite players.

- Yeti1181

yeah yeah yeah

Lost in all this is they already lost top prospect Kenny Ryan earlier!
- AdamFrench

I was pontificating about just this last night with a friend (beer was involved).

Our basic assessment of this year's roster (forgive me if I've forgotten anyone):

Elite players: Phaneuf (yeah, feel free to poop your pants disagreeing with me)

Good players: Lupul, JVR

Guys who we hope start reaching their full potential: Rielly, Kadri, Panik. Maybe Bernier (I don't agree with this)

Wild card: Gardiner

That's 7 or 8 guys who I actually care about. The rest I sincerely do not give two poops about - you could trade them tomorrow and plug the holes with other stiffs and it wouldn't make a difference to either the Leafs' record or my level of Caresi.

It's the apathy that unites us all.
- Atomic Wedgie

Elite 8 yrs ago.....maybe

What Subban did yesterday was such a good story that not even the Leafs can depress me today.

You could probably apply some form of statistical analysis in order to determine the probability that they earn an NHL roster spot one day, and the number of points they'd score.
- TheMussel

you could do that to the guys they traded away sure...but what weights to you assign the guys they might draft/obtain in trades in the future...maybe you can come up with some type of average for all draft picks of becoming effective NHLers, but that average is likely pretty bad.

What Subban did yesterday was such a good story that not even the Leafs can depress me today.
- Aetherial

Yes that was really nice.

Elite players: Phaneuf (yeah, feel free to poop your pants disagreeing with me)

He was a elite offensive D man in Calgary 1 or 2 seasons,after hec came back from injury last season he was the Leagues worst D man

- walshyleafsfan

his stats would suck if he was a defense man

Rat .... He was in our blog, (frank) you.
- bixll

You see, I think maybe you're the problem. Nobody else has any issues with us and vice versa.

I know. I make doz look like Redford.
- bixll

You see, I think maybe you're the problem. Nobody else has any issues with us and vice versa.
- Vukota

Did you call anyone else here a rat

Elite players: Phaneuf (yeah, feel free to poop your pants disagreeing with me)

He was a elite offensive D man in Calgary 1 or 2 seasons,after hec came back from injury last season he was the Leagues worst D man
- Landsbergfan

Do we really need to be respectful of opinions like this?

Elite players: Phaneuf (yeah, feel free to poop your pants disagreeing with me)

He was a elite offensive D man in Calgary 1 or 2 seasons,after hec came back from injury last season he was the Leagues worst D man
- Landsbergfan

c'mon, the leagues worst...........really

As Ive said since they sign Babcock...this team is not tanking. They will develop their young players and will put a competitive team on the ice.
I really liked Finn...not a huge fan of trade....but it opens up roster spots and Grabner can turn it around....he could be decent player.

But really who cares.....Go Jays Go!
- Fakepartofme

When you say you really liked Finn, which part of his game impressed you the most? I didn't catch any Solar Bears games.

When you say you really liked Finn, which part of his game impressed you the most? I didn't catch any Solar Bears games.
- walshyleafsfan

Sports team names with puns are the worst, just wanted to throw that in there

Yes that was really nice.
- robin_steele264

Between Subban and Patrick Kane, we all got a real good reminder that who these guys are on the ice is not who they are as human beings.

Do we really need to be respectful of opinions like this?
- Aetherial

i think something was proven in that post