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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
I thought all of those guys sans Back and Finn were coming along decently, no? Not superstars but they didn't seem like guys to just cast away?
- markmark


Maybe they wanna flush a bunch of the Burke/Nonis era draft picks so they can load up on more future picks
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Sep 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
Another Grabs, FML.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
Hey Kokes you pansy arse. Guess we won't like Beck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lool
- AdamFrench


(frank)ing Lou. I liked Beck. I also like Verhagie. Wtf. for Jiri Tlusty 2.0? WTF
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 17 @ 12:39 PM ET
(frank)ing Lou. I liked Beck. I also like Verhagie. Wtf. for Jiri Tlusty 2.0? WTF
- mykokes

Kessel replacement.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 17 @ 12:39 PM ET
Maybe they wanna flush a bunch of the Burke/Nonis era draft picks so they can load up on more future picks
- TheMussel


I hope that isn't the rationale behind this... like REALLY REALLY hope not.
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Sep 17 @ 12:40 PM ET
New blog everyone
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 17 @ 12:40 PM ET
traded a bunch of prospects that will never see the show for contract space

the leafs had 49 starting the day, max is 50, now they only have 45

if those PTO guys justifiably make the team now they have the space to sign them

good move.

- Dozzer


Beck was in the show. Verhagie was just coming out of junior, so can't really guess there.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 17 @ 12:40 PM ET
hey Leaf Fan, Congrats on getting Grabner. He is excellent players and one of fastest in NHL>

Clearly our moron coach Capuano didn't see it that way.

question for you - Are any of the guys we got in return any good?
Taylor Beck and Carter Verhaeghe, defencemen Matt Finn and Tom Nilsson, and goaltender Christopher Gibson?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 17 @ 12:41 PM ET
That's a bad bad deal.

There's a couple 2nd rounders in there, and a couple more young guys with a lot of upside. For a far far crappier far more injury prone version of kessel.

And the justification is to open up room for a bunch of guys theyll trade at the deadline for some middling draft picks which will be used to draft lower ceiling talent?

That's the exact opposite way to stock the system, and really a terrible move.

- joel878


this trade has nothing to do with players

nothing at all.

this is all about getting contract space
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Sep 17 @ 12:41 PM ET
That's a bad bad deal.

There's a couple 2nd rounders in there, and a couple more young guys with a lot of upside. For a far far crappier far more injury prone version of kessel.

And the justification is to open up room for a bunch of guys theyll trade at the deadline for some middling draft picks which will be used to draft lower ceiling talent?

That's the exact opposite way to stock the system, and really a terrible move.

- joel878



This. It seems they were determined to rid themselves of as many of the prospects from the the Burke and Nonis years. hell it's possible Kadri will gone by the end of the year too.

it screams to me that they think they can find more talent in the later rounds than nonis and burke could in the 2nd. which is possible, but pretty arrogant.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 17 @ 12:41 PM ET
Kessel replacement.
- AdamFrench


I wouldn't trade Beck straight up for Grabner. That's how much I hate this deal.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 17 @ 12:42 PM ET
Beck was in the show. Verhagie was just coming out of junior, so can't really guess there.
- mykokes


this is about contract space.. not players
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 17 @ 12:42 PM ET
Maybe they wanna flush a bunch of the Burke/Nonis era draft picks so they can load up on more future picks
- TheMussel



Just more trade bait at the deadline if he plays well.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 17 @ 12:42 PM ET
Kessel replacement.
- AdamFrench


no

this is so they can sign guys on PTOs
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 17 @ 12:42 PM ET
Just more trade bait at the deadline if he plays well.
- bixll


ding ding ding

i dont think LL and BS have strong attachments to nonis and burke picks
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 17 @ 12:42 PM ET
hey Leaf Fan, Congrats on getting Grabner. He is excellent players and one of fastest in NHL>

Clearly our moron coach Capuano didn't see it that way.

question for you - Are any of the guys we got in return any good?
Taylor Beck and Carter Verhaeghe, defencemen Matt Finn and Tom Nilsson, and goaltender Christopher Gibson?

- Spartiarti


Ask Nashville fans about Beck. Verhaeghe, we were going to learn more about this year. Finn stalled. the other two, meh.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 17 @ 12:43 PM ET
no

this is so they can sign guys on PTOs

- Dozzer

NO THIS IS ABOUT AN ELITE SCORER
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Sep 17 @ 12:43 PM ET
no

this is so they can sign guys on PTOs

- Dozzer


right, and possibly flip them for 3 or 4th rounders..vs the 2nd rounder they just gave away.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Sep 17 @ 12:43 PM ET
Scott Cullen ‏@tsnscottcullen 2m2 minutes ago

Leafs send a bunch of contracts (Beck, Verhaeghe, Finn, Nilsson, Gibson) to Islanders for Michael Grabner.

- BingoLady

That is going backwards.

So much for the brain trust theory.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 17 @ 12:43 PM ET
this is about contract space.. not players
- Dozzer


there's plenty more to cut or release Bruce. And Grabner makes 4M! 3M CAP HIT!
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 17 @ 12:45 PM ET
Just more trade bait at the deadline if he plays well.
- bixll


He makes as much as Bozak. Oh yeah we'll have an easy time moving him.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 17 @ 12:45 PM ET
this trade has nothing to do with players

nothing at all.

this is all about getting contract space

- Dozzer


... Which I agreed with. My take is gaining contract space hardly validating it. With the contract space, it's still blatantly moving backwards, IMO.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Sep 17 @ 12:49 PM ET
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 17 @ 1:02 PM ET
He makes as much as Bozak. Oh yeah we'll have an easy time moving him.
- mykokes



Or a center for the Marlies,,, whatever.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 17 @ 1:12 PM ET
Didn't see that coming. Nice trade though.
- MCharisma91


Yeah?
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