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StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Aug 16 @ 4:39 PM ET
What is it like living in a fantasy world, asking for a friend....

Johnson and Palat are going to get HUGE raises. 5+ each.... AT LEAST!

So this it your top 6

Drouin 3.194 Stamkos 10.5 Callahan 5.8
Palat 5 Johnson 5 Kucherov 4.5 (dreaming!!!!)

33.994 for 6 players!?!?!?!?! That almost half the cap.

- Artyukhin76


Some teams have more than that locked in 4 players.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 16 @ 4:46 PM ET
What is it like living in a fantasy world, asking for a friend....

Johnson and Palat are going to get HUGE raises. 5+ each.... AT LEAST!

So this it your top 6

Drouin 3.194 Stamkos 10.5 Callahan 5.8
Palat 5 Johnson 5 Kucherov 4.5 (dreaming!!!!)

33.994 for 6 players!?!?!?!?! That almost half the cap.

- Artyukhin76

I think Johnson will be close to $6.5M per year.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Aug 16 @ 4:49 PM ET
I think Johnson will be close to $6.5M per year.
- rangerdanger94

I was being EXTREMELY conservative, you're probably pretty close. I was thinking 6-ish.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Aug 16 @ 4:50 PM ET
Some teams have more than that locked in 4 players.
- StargateSG1

No thanks.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Aug 16 @ 4:52 PM ET
This roster gives us ENORMOUS flexibility!

Drouin 3.194 Filppula 5 Callahan 5.8
Palat 3.333 Johnson 3.333 Kucherov .894
Killorn 2.55 Namestnikov .874 Brown .95
Paquette .925 Boyle 2 Condra 1.25
Marshessault .6

30.678

Hedman 4 Stralman 4.5
Garrison 4.6 Sustr 1.475
Carle 5.5 Coburn 4.5
Nesterov .925

25.4

Bishop 5.95
Vasilevskiy 1.475

(Gagner 1.6)

9.025

AAS $65.103
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Aug 16 @ 4:53 PM ET
No thanks.
- Artyukhin76


I wasn't offering anything, just pointing out you despair way too early.
Yzerman proved to be a smart and savvy GM,
although I have no clue how he'll get Flip and Callahan contracts off the books.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 16 @ 4:59 PM ET
This roster gives us ENORMOUS flexibility!

Drouin 3.194 Filppula 5 Callahan 5.8
Palat 3.333 Johnson 3.333 Kucherov .894
Killorn 2.55 Namestnikov .874 Brown .95
Paquette .925 Boyle 2 Condra 1.25
Marshessault .6

30.678

Hedman 4 Stralman 4.5
Garrison 4.6 Sustr 1.475
Carle 5.5 Coburn 4.5
Nesterov .925

25.4

Bishop 5.95
Vasilevskiy 1.475

(Gagner 1.6)

9.025

AAS $65.103

- Artyukhin76

That roster is a bubble playoff team.

What do you need flexibility for? To use the cap space to overpay for a guy in free agency that will be half the player that Stamkos is?
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Aug 16 @ 6:10 PM ET
What is it like living in a fantasy world, asking for a friend....

Johnson and Palat are going to get HUGE raises. 5+ each.... AT LEAST!

So this it your top 6

Drouin 3.194 Stamkos 10.5 Callahan 5.8
Palat 5 Johnson 5 Kucherov 4.5 (dreaming!!!!)

33.994 for 6 players!?!?!?!?! That almost half the cap.

- Artyukhin76

Why ? We are paying coburn -4.5 ohlund-3.6 garrison-4.6 and carle 5.5 and flipper 5. All those guys gone takes care of the triplets and stamkos! Killorn gets traded for picks enter Erne. Koekkoek and Anthony d come up to replace carle and coburn and garrison. Can also trade bishop after next year for prospects and picks if we want to give vasy the job. Yzerman will find a wAy to reload.
Cloud
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Stockholm
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 16 @ 6:13 PM ET
Stammer should be signed and will be unless he absolutely wants to go to Toronto. Money shouldnt be an issue.

Filppula is deff not unmoveable, for 5 mil he is absolutely worthy his cap. Carle is a tougher pill but package him with Killorn and it is possible.

Stamkos had a down year coming back from an injury. He has been a fan favorit since he was drafted. Yzerman wont let both MSL and stamkos leave within 2 years.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Aug 16 @ 6:31 PM ET
This roster gives us ENORMOUS flexibility!

Drouin 3.194 Filppula 5 Callahan 5.8
Palat 3.333 Johnson 3.333 Kucherov .894
Killorn 2.55 Namestnikov .874 Brown .95
Paquette .925 Boyle 2 Condra 1.25
Marshessault .6

30.678

Hedman 4 Stralman 4.5
Garrison 4.6 Sustr 1.475
Carle 5.5 Coburn 4.5
Nesterov .925

25.4

Bishop 5.95
Vasilevskiy 1.475

(Gagner 1.6)

9.025

AAS $65.103

- Artyukhin76


If the situation is really that tight against the cap (which I don't believe it is or will be), are you saying that you'd keep Filppula and Carle on the books over Stamkos? They go and his extension is paid for. Shipping out Stamkos sets this team back, not forward.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Aug 16 @ 6:36 PM ET
That roster is a bubble playoff team.

What do you need flexibility for? To use the cap space to overpay for a guy in free agency that will be half the player that Stamkos is?

- rangerdanger94

One guy doesn't drop us to a bubble team.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Aug 16 @ 6:38 PM ET
If the situation is really that tight against the cap (which I don't believe it is or will be), are you saying that you'd keep Filppula and Carle on the books over Stamkos? They go and his extension is paid for. Shipping out Stamkos sets this team back, not forward.
- Michael_Stuart

No, we can't rid ourselves of Carle, I'm talking about Filppula and Killorn.
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Aug 16 @ 6:49 PM ET
No, we can't rid ourselves of Carle, I'm talking about Filppula and Killorn.
- Artyukhin76

If they pull a Brewer and don't play him, I guarantee Carle will waive his no move clause and on top of that he is good enough a team who needs a D due to injury would scoop him up for a 6th or 7th. This is my hope anyway...

And losing Stamkos is a big blow to this team, they have to resign him if he wants to stay. Deal with the consequences on the other guys later but I still feel they can resign most of their core guys including the triplets and Hedman.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Aug 16 @ 7:10 PM ET
If they pull a Brewer and don't play him, I guarantee Carle will waive his no move clause and on top of that he is good enough a team who needs a D due to injury would scoop him up for a 6th or 7th. This is my hope anyway...

And losing Stamkos is a big blow to this team, they have to resign him if he wants to stay. Deal with the consequences on the other guys later but I still feel they can resign most of their core guys including the triplets and Hedman.

- stammerman

Hope and guarantee are two VERY different things.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Aug 16 @ 7:21 PM ET
If they pull a Brewer and don't play him, I guarantee Carle will waive his no move clause and on top of that he is good enough a team who needs a D due to injury would scoop him up for a 6th or 7th. This is my hope anyway...

And losing Stamkos is a big blow to this team, they have to resign him if he wants to stay. Deal with the consequences on the other guys later but I still feel they can resign most of their core guys including the triplets and Hedman.

- stammerman


Agreed on all fronts. Garrison had an NTC --- when Vancouver said they didn't want him, all of a sudden leaving home wasn't such an unappealing option. Most guys won't want to be in a situation where they aren't wanted.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 16 @ 7:44 PM ET
One guy doesn't drop us to a bubble team.
- Artyukhin76

When that guy is Stamkos he very well may lol

Especially if you get an injury to Johnson/Palat/Kucherov during the regular season.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 16 @ 8:27 PM ET
Your defense and goaltending is still gonna suck
- rangerdanger94

Don't worry, they will tell Tampa that they have to trade them Hedman %50 retained to them for Kadri and phanuef will be coming off of a Norris winning season.

In other news I went unicorn hunting today and only bagged me a three eyed goat!!!!!

Quick poll

Which of my two statements sound like the drug induced ramblings of a social reject?

1. Neither, me and Booth did the same last week.

2. The first one, only a leafs fan would believe the first statement.

3. The second one, Unicorns are single Bisexual girls who while sometimes appearing goat faced, never have three eyes.

4. Both, Stammer and Hedman are the types of players you sign for long term no matter the cost, their skills are irreplacable, and even an ugly bisexual girl doesnt have three eyes.




rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 16 @ 9:29 PM ET
Don't worry, they will tell Tampa that they have to trade them Hedman %50 retained to them for Kadri and phanuef will be coming off of a Norris winning season.

In other news I went unicorn hunting today and only bagged me a three eyed goat!!!!!

Quick poll

Which of my two statements sound like the drug induced ramblings of a social reject?

1. Neither, me and Booth did the same last week.

2. The first one, only a leafs fan would believe the first statement.

3. The second one, Unicorns are single Bisexual girls who while sometimes appearing goat faced, never have three eyes.

4. Both, Stammer and Hedman are the types of players you sign for long term no matter the cost, their skills are irreplacable, and even an ugly bisexual girl doesnt have three eyes.

- Pres.cup

wat
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 16 @ 9:49 PM ET
wat
- rangerdanger94


http://www.urbandictionar...m/define.php?term=Unicorn

Urban dictionary, a unicorn is a Bisexual who gets it on with couples.
Rare.... like a unicorn, or the Leafs in the playoffs.

Goatfaced is ugly assed face.


You didnt answer my poll
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Aug 16 @ 11:58 PM ET
If the situation is really that tight against the cap (which I don't believe it is or will be), are you saying that you'd keep Filppula and Carle on the books over Stamkos? They go and his extension is paid for. Shipping out Stamkos sets this team back, not forward.
- Michael_Stuart

i think they can trade carle if not they buy him out if they need the space that badly.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Aug 17 @ 3:54 AM ET
Agreed on all fronts. Garrison had an NTC --- when Vancouver said they didn't want him, all of a sudden leaving home wasn't such an unappealing option. Most guys won't want to be in a situation where they aren't wanted.
- Michael_Stuart

guys have pride this is true garrison liked the canucks but when they said we don't want you! then that was that.
hunglikeapuck
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Punta Cana
Joined: 07.14.2009

Aug 17 @ 9:41 AM ET
Never.
TBolts4
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Apollo Beach, FL
Joined: 06.01.2013

Aug 17 @ 9:47 AM ET
No, we can't rid ourselves of Carle, I'm talking about Filppula and Killorn.
- Artyukhin76


Namestnikov is Filpulla's replacement. Erne is Killorn's. Their difference in salary pays Stammer's extensions. The "loss" of FA's cap space will pay for the triplets raises.

Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Aug 17 @ 10:12 AM ET
Namestnikov is Filpulla's replacement. Erne is Killorn's. Their difference in salary pays Stammer's extensions. The "loss" of FA's cap space will pay for the triplets raises.
- TBolts4

We won't lose FA's fast enough.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Aug 17 @ 11:36 AM ET
One guy doesn't drop us to a bubble team.
- Artyukhin76


No but that one guy likely drops you off the top of the east/contender status
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