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classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Aug 13 @ 4:44 PM ET



Ugh spent some time on ESPN

Corey Pronman might want take the leafs organization D__k out of his mouth for once.

Guy puts 8 leafs prospects in the top 100



give me a break
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Aug 13 @ 4:46 PM ET
You dont see yourself as biased with your negativity?
Only a few good fans on here huh? I think you mean only a few people on here that agree with you. Umm theyre called trolls.

I have yet to see a single member here who believes benning can do no wrong. Not one. Not even 1. Theres those who like some of his moves but hate the contracts and still dont like other moves.

go talk to your mommy who might care about your slanted views....when she is through paddling your bottom perhaps your attitude has changed enough to mix with others

- SMBDragon


second post in a row you have mentioned my mom...at least try to be creative if you are trying to insult me since you clearly can't argue with the fact that no one but nucks fans think benning is doing a good job.

and why do you feel the need to ruin this thread? we were having a perfectly fine conversation before the trolls came out. there is nothing wrong with disagreeing with an opinion. you on the other hand, using insults? yea...that's trolling.
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Aug 13 @ 4:47 PM ET
I think Nylander has the potential to be much better than Virtanen, but JV because of his physical play is more of a lock to be a solid NHLer.
- WhiteLie


i can agree with that. but with a top 10 pick, you can't draft the guy who will be a solid NHLer. you need the guy who could potentially be a 1st liner.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Aug 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
i can agree with that. but with a top 10 pick, you can't draft the guy who will be a solid NHLer. you need the guy who could potentially be a 1st liner.
- sensnucksnocups


He has that upside though. It might not be considered elite offense, but his power gives him the potential to be among the top at his position. Its a skill vs power situation, both are just different ways to produce in this league, power has the benefit of being useful in other areas of the game, so safer
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Aug 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
Ugh spent some time on ESPN

Corey Pronman might want take the leafs organization D__k out of his mouth for once.

Guy puts 8 leafs prospects in the top 100



give me a break

- classic321


whats the issue? poopty teams always have the best prospects, because they can usually draft with the best picks.

you'll rarely see a top team represented a lot in those lists, because the prospects they have are either traded for more immediate help or just aren't as good as other prospects.

in a few years once the nucks start rebuilding they will have a bunch of great prospects in those lists. it means nothing...the best teams are the ones that can develop the prospects they have without needing high picks to land good ones.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 13 @ 4:54 PM ET
i can agree with that. but with a top 10 pick, you can't draft the guy who will be a solid NHLer. you need the guy who could potentially be a 1st liner.
- sensnucksnocups


You also can't afford a boom or bust pick either especially in the top 10... see Nail Yakupov being the most glaring example. You need to have players who have NHL-caliber floors at the very least, there is never a guarantee that a player will reach their ceiling even with the best of player development. Injuries, off-ice issues, player movement and line/pair chemistry can also play a huge role.
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Aug 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
He has that upside though. It might not be considered elite offense, but his power gives him the potential to be among the top at his position. Its a skill vs power situation, both are just different ways to produce in this league, power has the benefit of being useful in other areas of the game, so safer
- WhiteLie


true he does, but last year was a setback. i think they will regret not taking nylander/ehlers but only time will tell.

good discussion. much better than those trolls who just insult me if i disagree with a move the nucks have made.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
Always appreciated that the skate was going downhill. Subtle.
- we_are_all_canucks




I could never understand this. What would the logo look like if it was level? or angled uphill?

It's an effing sweater, it doesn't make the team good or bad. If it is spaghetti, why hasn't FA brought it back sooner?

Anything is better than the Orca C. No idea what the Orca had to do with the Canucks besides it being the holding company or whatever that McCaw used when he owned the club.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
Ugh spent some time on ESPN

Corey Pronman might want take the leafs organization D__k out of his mouth for once.

Guy puts 8 leafs prospects in the top 100



give me a break

- classic321

Nylander, Marner, Kapanen, Brown and Bracco aren't really that surprising. Harrington and Leispic are questionable but not outlandish.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Aug 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
second post in a row you have mentioned my mom...at least try to be creative if you are trying to insult me since you clearly can't argue with the fact that no one but nucks fans think benning is doing a good job.

and why do you feel the need to ruin this thread? we were having a perfectly fine conversation before the trolls came out. there is nothing wrong with disagreeing with an opinion. you on the other hand, using insults? yea...that's trolling.

- sensnucksnocups


It goes to show how old you look. Hoping it was giving you a message.

But yes you are better behaved than before. So I will stop on you then. Hopefully you see how your previous behavior has people ready to jump on you hoping youll leave.

NO there is NO fact that canucks fans think benning is awesome. Read through here, you will see thats not the case. You are flat out wrong there. Please dont speak for the rest of the world, no one knows what the rest of the world thinks.

When you use statements like that its going to get inflammatory responses.
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Aug 13 @ 4:56 PM ET
You also can't afford a boom or bust pick either especially in the top 10... see Nail Yakupov being the most glaring example. You need to have players who have NHL-caliber floors at the very least, there is never a guarantee that a player will reach their ceiling even with the best of player development. Injuries, off-ice issues, player movement and line/pair chemistry can also play a huge role.
- DariusKnight


yakupov was still the right decision at the time. heck its still early, he could still breakout now that mcdavid is on the oilers.

would they be better off taking ryan murray? he's constantly injured and doesnt even look like he'll be in the BJs top 4 anymore.

galchenyuk is probably the best pick they could have had but its not like many people ranked him over yakupov at the time.
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Aug 13 @ 5:01 PM ET
true he does, but last year was a setback. i think they will regret not taking nylander/ehlers but only time will tell.

good discussion. much better than those trolls who just insult me if i disagree with a move the nucks have made.

- sensnucksnocups


I'm not sure they will regret it. Like you've already posted, 'at the time it made sense' and at the time of JV's pick we were still viewed as a soft team. Picking Nylander/Ehlers would bring further criticism to the lack of toughness on the roster. Even now the team lacks anyone with a "threat from anywhere" type shot, JV brings that and same with this year's pick Boeser
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 13 @ 5:04 PM ET
Nylander, Marner, Kapanen, Brown and Bracco aren't really that surprising. Harrington and Leispic are questionable but not outlandish.
- Nucker101

Should we start calling you Leafer now?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 13 @ 5:08 PM ET
Should we start calling you Leafer now?
- VANTEL



I think any non-biased fan would agree with that assessment. 6 of their prospects are top 100 worthy right now.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Aug 13 @ 5:09 PM ET
Nylander, Marner, Kapanen, Brown and Bracco aren't really that surprising. Harrington and Leispic are questionable but not outlandish.
- Nucker101



Exactly

Meanwhile how does a player like cole cassels not get on there.

Harrington is a career AHL'er
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 13 @ 5:12 PM ET
sedins getting a year older will negate any "good" move you think the nucks have made this offseason.

and the rest of the world thinks the nucks came out worse from every move they made so when you factor in that + the sedins getting worse... there's your answer.

- sensnucksnocupsisatool

Wow...sheer genius!!
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 13 @ 5:12 PM ET


I think any non-biased fan would agree with that assessment. 6 of their prospects are top 100 worthy right now.

- Nucker101


Sorry but based on your biased opinion of Tannehill I can't take your scouting seriously.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 13 @ 5:13 PM ET
Exactly

Meanwhile how does a player like cole cassels not get on there.

Harrington is a career AHL'er

- classic321


Cassels had one good offensive season as an overaged player. He's not even one of our top 3 prospects....multiply that by 30 teams.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 13 @ 5:13 PM ET
Exactly

Meanwhile how does a player like cole cassels not get on there.

Harrington is a career AHL'er

- classic321

First of all he would be if he was wearing a Leaf jersey . Marner and Nylander are both very good JR players. Let's see how well they produce against guys that are at least 30 lbs heavier than they are.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 13 @ 5:14 PM ET
Sorry but based on your biased opinion of Tannehill I can't take your scouting seriously.
- golfingsince


He's a good dink and dunk passer with scrambling ability. The guy sucks when he's challenged to throw the ball deep. The numbers back it up and so does the eye test.

Dolphins will always be mediocre with him unless they have an elite defense and a strong running game to carry him.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 13 @ 5:14 PM ET
yakupov was still the right decision at the time. heck its still early, he could still breakout now that mcdavid is on the oilers.

would they be better off taking ryan murray? he's constantly injured and doesnt even look like he'll be in the BJs top 4 anymore.

galchenyuk is probably the best pick they could have had but its not like many people ranked him over yakupov at the time.

- sensnucksnocups


A trade would have worked out better for the Oilers, at that point at least, most people weren't sold on Yakupov as a star due to the Russian/KHL factor (a moot point yes, seeing as he played in major junior). Not to mention they had glaring weaknesses on the back end and in goal that could have been addressed by trading the first overall to a team looking for a speedy goal scorer like Nail was projected to be. But it's the Oilers and it was the Lowe/McTavish poopshow and they wanted their Jari Kurri to go along with their Gretzski (RNH), Anderson (Eberle) and Messier (Hall).
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Aug 13 @ 5:15 PM ET
Nylander, Marner, Kapanen, Brown and Bracco aren't really that surprising. Harrington and Leispic are questionable but not outlandish.
- Nucker101






Leipsic is outlandish

Leipsic is no different than a player like Baerstchi.

and I don't even like Baertschi
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 13 @ 5:16 PM ET
Cassels had one good offensive season as an overaged player. He's not even one of our top 3 prospects....multiply that by 30 teams.
- golfingsince


This year would be his technical overage season. And he's had two straight seasons over a PPG.


I would definitely take him over Leipsic or Harrington.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 13 @ 5:17 PM ET
He's a good dink and dunk passer with scrambling ability. The guy sucks when he's challenged to throw the ball deep. The numbers back it up and so does the eye test.

Dolphins will always be mediocre with him unless they have an elite defense and a strong running game to carry him.

- Nucker101


Funny but Super Bowl winners not associated with the Dolphins feel differently, including Gruden.

However, I know you felt Nick Foles was the heir apparent to top QB in the league. Even his own coach felt differently.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 13 @ 5:17 PM ET


Leipsic is outlandish

Leipsic is no different than a player like Baerstchi.

and I don't even like Baertschi

- classic321

True. The more I think about it, he and Harrington shouldn't be on that list.
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