Thank you for your intelligent contribution to this discussion.
- BINGO!

What discussion? none of us had any input in this signing, you are just trolling.

Do I like that they signed him without playing a game - no

But

He played 17 mpg last year and scored 21G

Expect that average to inflate to over 19mpg

Nucks can still trade him a few years down the road at a modest hit of a lil over 4M

If the Habs can move bourque with time left then Sutter can be moved if it doesn't work out

Good evaluation of how he does is after year 3 out of 6

He will still be 29-30 after year 3
- MTL1

yep. 13 goals last year, 21 this year, 29 next year. its that simple!

easily acquirable type of player. traded legitimate assets for him, then signed him to a bad deal.

now in the "convince yourself it was a good deal" phase. it's not. He's a 3rd line centre who will hopefully net you 30 points. Sign Santorelli for league min. and get the same result

I'll break down the Sutter contract in tomorrow's blog, so we can get back to that soon enough.

Right now, may I direct your attention to Jake Virtanen's fine game against the Czechs, in progress right now? After 40 minutes, he has a goal and an assist and has been one of the better forwards on the ice....

yep. 13 goals last year, 21 this year, 29 next year. its that simple!

easily acquirable type of player. traded legitimate assets for him, then signed him to a bad deal.

now in the "convince yourself it was a good deal" phase. it's not. He's a 3rd line centre who will hopefully net you 30 points. Sign Santorelli for league min. and get the same result
- oilerfan94

Sutter > Santorelli.

Is Sutter better than Bonino? The numbers don't indicate he is. Throw in the cap flexibility and what it took to get him and it's a bad deal IMO.

I'll break down the Sutter contract in tomorrow's blog, so we can get back to that soon enough.

Right now, may I direct your attention to Jake Virtanen's fine game against the Czechs, in progress right now? After 40 minutes, he has a goal and an assist and has been one of the better forwards on the ice....
- Carol Schram

The guy is a steamroller with speed

In your blog tomorrow can you mention Vantel approves this signing

Pittsburg set the bar on his salary. He easily would have gotten and did get 4mil plus.

People can crap all over him any way they want but Canucks don't have too many 20 goal scorers.

People thinking he is the third line centre , think again . He was signed here as a second line centre . So his salary is fitting

Sutter is trash we should never have made the deal then pay a third line center over 4 mil, sweet deal. Could have bonino and mathias for the same price as sutter if not less. Benning is trash im done. wake me up when is fired.

Pittsburg set the bar on his salary. He easily would have gotten and did get 4mil plus.

People can crap all over him any way they want but Canucks don't have too many 20 goal scorers.

People thinking he is the third line centre , think again . He was signed here as a second line centre . So his salary is fitting
- VANTEL

We have a 2nd line center in horvat and a third in bonino. The trade and signing are dog poop.

Sutter > Santorelli.

Is Sutter better than Bonino? The numbers don't indicate he is. Throw in the cap flexibility and what it took to get him and it's a bad deal IMO.
- AlexF

Benning has no clue what he is doing. He is doing exactly what the flames and leafs did for years which was over estimate your poop roster that is never good enough. So he wants to trade vrbata and hamhuis now but yet signs sutter. The guy is (frank)ed.

Sutter is trash we should never have made the deal then pay a third line center over 4 mil, sweet deal. Could have bonino and mathias for the same price as sutter if not less. Benning is trash im done. wake me up when is fired.
- mauryballstein

We have a 2nd line center in horvat and a third in bonino. The trade and signing are dog poop.
- mauryballstein

Yeah Bonino , no thanks.

Benning has no clue what he is doing. He is doing exactly what the flames and leafs did for years which was over estimate your poop roster that is never good enough. So he wants to trade vrbata and hamhuis now but yet signs sutter. The guy is (frank)ed.
- mauryballstein

What team did you help win the Stanley Cup?

Pittsburg set the bar on his salary. He easily would have gotten and did get 4mil plus.

People can crap all over him any way they want but Canucks don't have too many 20 goal scorers.

People thinking he is the third line centre , think again . He was signed here as a second line centre . So his salary is fitting
- VANTEL

I think that he was brought in to add some versitity. Rather than drop Horvat into the 2C spot and hope that he is ready, now there's a bit of a buffer. And when Horvat passes him, then we have a 3C that can also play on special teams.

I didn't love the trade, but I don't hate the signing, if that makes any sense. I would have preferred to have seen him play for a couple of months before committing for five years but to be honest I'm way more worried about Weisbrod being named AGM than I am about signing Sutter.

I think that he was brought in to add some versitity. Rather than drop Horvat into the 2C spot and hope that he is ready, now there's a bit of a buffer. And when Horvat passes him, then we have a 3C that can also play on special teams.

I didn't love the trade, but I don't hate the signing, if that makes any sense. I would have preferred to have seen him play for a couple of months before committing for five years but to be honest I'm way more worried about Weisbrod being named AGM than I am about signing Sutter.
- CubanBuffet

Fully understand and most people here feel that way. I am one of those expecting more.

Benning has no clue what he is doing. He is doing exactly what the flames and leafs did for years which was over estimate your poop roster that is never good enough. So he wants to trade vrbata and hamhuis now but yet signs sutter. The guy is (frank)ed.
- mauryballstein

Flames are pretty good, no? And they weren't really bad for very long. If that's the trajectory we're on then I can live with that.

Fully understand and most people here feel that way. I am one of those expecting more.
- VANTEL

How's that work for Horvat? He gets stuck behind at 3C, or they compete for the job, or most likely the difference in ice time is so slight that there is little difference between 2C and 3C. However it works, I'd be disappointed if Sutter's getting more ice than Horvat by the end of the season.

Sutter > Santorelli.

Is Sutter better than Bonino? The numbers don't indicate he is. Throw in the cap flexibility and what it took to get him and it's a bad deal IMO.
- AlexF

Santorelli > Sutter > Bonino....

How's that work for Horvat? He gets stuck behind at 3C, or they compete for the job, or most likely the difference in ice time is so slight that there is little difference between 2C and 3C. However it works, I'd be disappointed if Sutter's getting more ice than Horvat by the end of the season.
- CubanBuffet

I think it works out very well. It removes the pressure of a 20 year old needing to and be the guy. When the time happens naturally then you can switch. It gives Horvat a two year buffer.

Because our cupboards are thin we feel the need to push ( like e with Higgins).

Santorelli > Sutter > Bonino....
- kaptaan

Santorelli where is he now?

I think it works out very well. It removes the pressure of a 20 year old needing to and be the guy. When the time happens naturally then you can switch. It gives Horvat a two year buffer.

Because our cupboards are thin we feel the need to push ( like e with Higgins).
- VANTEL

I think that we agree that Sutter's a placeholder.

I think that we agree that Sutter's a placeholder.
- CubanBuffet

By then Hank should be moving on by then.

By then Hank should be moving on by then.
- VANTEL

Either moving on or moving down the depth chart.

Pittsburg set the bar on his salary. He easily would have gotten and did get 4mil plus.

People can crap all over him any way they want but Canucks don't have too many 20 goal scorers.

People thinking he is the third line centre , think again . He was signed here as a second line centre . So his salary is fitting
- VANTEL

If that's what you believe he was brought in to play as for the next 5 years I'm surprised you liked this trade. Do you think Sutter's a fitting 2C on this (or any other) team?

Offensively (and defensively on the PP) Sutter is most likely a downgrade on both Matthias and Richardson and is certainly a downgrade to Bonino at 5-on-5. He's not an upgrade over Bonino on the PP. He is much better at faceoffs though (something we've been terrible at with in-zone defensive starts) and slightly better at hits.

DP

If that's what you believe he was brought in to play as for the next 5 years I'm surprised you liked this deal. Do you think Sutter's a fitting 2C on this (or any other) team?

Offensively (and defensively on the PP) Sutter is most likely a downgrade on both Matthias and Richardson and is certainly a downgrade to Bonino at 5-on-5. He's not an upgrade over Bonino on the PP. He is much better at faceoffs though and slightly better at hits.
- AlexF

Time will tell.