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Willaged
Joined: 05.14.2014

Jul 28 @ 4:32 PM ET
I would love Vlasic, not sure the price it would take on him. SJ's D is pretty solid with Martin, maybe they're looking for a forward? I don't want to give up Perron, but I think that's where the conversation would probably start.

EDIT: Vlasic makes only 4.25 for the next three years, pretty cap friendly hit. He also wears an A.

- Pens_Burgh


I doubt San Jose deals Vlasic.. And if they did the package would be large. Without a 1st, or any A level prospects, even if he did come available we wouldn't be able to pull it off.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 28 @ 4:34 PM ET
His original estimate was 4-6 months from June 3 (Date of his surgery), which would be October 3-December 3. Rutherford said in his press conference that they spoke with his doctors on Friday and that Fehr's recovery is going extremely well and they reduced the timetable to 4-5 months which would then be between October 3-November 3. So depending where he falls in there, it might not be that much time missed in the regular season. I am sure they will not rush him, so I am guessing towards the end of October.
- PensFan1103


Gotcha. Appreciate the update. Still not worried about it in the least with Bonino.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 28 @ 4:34 PM ET
F Sutter!

Just once more, for old times sake.
j0e Th0rnton
San Jose Sharks
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 01.01.2008

Jul 28 @ 4:36 PM ET
I don't. I think Nashville was a poor fit because they were the rare team that had too many righties so they tried him on his off side which didn't work.

The one legit weakness is he's a little slow, but here he'd always be paired with a good skating defenseman so I'd see it balancing out. All are LD are good skaters that don't play well in front of their own net. Fransen is a big RD that while not real mobile does move the puck well and excells in every advanced stat from puck possession to shot suppression to hits per 60.

- Tojo.

They played Franson on the right and moved Seth jones to the left, which affected his play

Nashville fans were livid and wanted Franson benched to keep Seth on the right
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 28 @ 4:38 PM ET
We traded Sutter for Bonino, Fehr, for a prospect, a pick, and most importantly salary cap relief. Yes the Pens are a deeper team today. We are excited because most would've been happy with a pick then signing Fehr.
- lloyd095


My attempt was at humor, not ridicule. I agree that you did very well today. I like Bonino better than Sutter and Fehr is very under rated and could be in for a big season. Team is looking very good
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Jul 28 @ 4:39 PM ET
I doubt San Jose deals Vlasic.. And if they did the package would be large. Without a 1st, or any A level prospects, even if he did come available we wouldn't be able to pull it off.
- Willaged


Agreed. It would cost at least Perron-Bennett-ANA 2nd-whatever other remaining high draft picks we have

Our best bet is to dump Scuds, sign Franson for a year. Who knows. I have a feeling Ruth is working on something. Franson not signing yet could mean that he's holding out in hopes for us to clear cap, us and a few other teams.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 28 @ 4:40 PM ET
They played Franson on the right and moved Seth jones to the left, which affected his play

Nashville fans were livid and wanted Franson benched to keep Seth on the right

- j0e Th0rnton

And they had a right to. Seth Jones is a special player. You don't play special players on their right side to acomidate others, no matter how good they may be. This isn't a knock on Franson, but I'd prioritize Seth Jones' needs over Franson's every time.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 28 @ 4:49 PM ET
http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2015/07/28/penguins-trade-sutter-to-canucks/

Yohe said he talked to Rutherford and he told him Fehr is progressing well and the timetable is now 4 to 5 months and he may be ready for the opener. Just better not end up like Maatta.

- Tojo.


My thoughts exactly. Let him sit till December. Give Oscar a look.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 28 @ 4:50 PM ET
Interestingly enough. JR mentioned adding another forward via Free Agency. I'm a bit confused by this considering the cap space and greater need for defense at this point. I don't see many useful forwards left in FA other than Santorelli...who we cant afford or really need. He is likely just playing the GM truth or lie game though.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


JR is senile and has destroyed Carolina and is working on doing the same in Pittsburgh. I realize some of the Pens followers here are very optimistic about todays transactions but the game is played on the ice over half a year. Rutherford has made some outrageous signings in his time, The key to your team still lies in Crosby, Malkin and Letang plus another good year from Fleury. Lot of question marks as to what you will get, the only sure thing is Crosby is your leader, Malkin must be healthy and motivated, Letang must stay healthy and Fleury has to play like last year.
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Jul 28 @ 4:52 PM ET
JR is senile and has destroyed Carolina and is working on doing the same in Pittsburgh. I realize some of the Pens followers here are very optimistic about todays transactions but the game is played on the ice over half a year. Rutherford has made some outrageous signings in his time, The key to your team still lies in Crosby, Malkin and Letang plus another good year from Fleury. Lot of question marks as to what you will get, the only sure thing is Crosby is your leader, Malkin must be healthy and motivated, Letang must stay healthy and Fleury has to play like last year.
- flyerdude17


Tell me how he's doing the same in Pittsburgh? I'd love to hear how. Better hurry I leave work in 8 minutes.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 28 @ 4:53 PM ET
And they had a right to. Seth Jones is a special player. You don't play special players on their right side to acomidate others, no matter how good they may be. This isn't a knock on Franson, but I'd prioritize Seth Jones' needs over Franson's every time.
- Victoro311


I agree an the Preds have arguably the best top 4 D in the league. Franson needs ice time and a bigger role to bring out his best, an opportunity that never came in Nashville. The only reason he has not signed yet because he is waiting on a certain team to accommodate him, nothing to do with amount of interest in him.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 28 @ 4:54 PM ET
JR is senile and has destroyed Carolina and is working on doing the same in Pittsburgh. I realize some of the Pens followers here are very optimistic about todays transactions but the game is played on the ice over half a year. Rutherford has made some outrageous signings in his time, The key to your team still lies in Crosby, Malkin and Letang plus another good year from Fleury. Lot of question marks as to what you will get, the only sure thing is Crosby is your leader, Malkin must be healthy and motivated, Letang must stay healthy and Fleury has to play like last year.
- flyerdude17


Every team has question marks in the cap era. Pens have their fair share, but for the first time in years the forward depth is very solid.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 28 @ 4:54 PM ET
Tell me how he's doing the same in Pittsburgh? I'd love to hear how. Better hurry I leave work in 8 minutes.
- Pens_Burgh


Sorry, can't do it in eight minutes, lol If you do not think he ruined Carolina with ridiculous signings and questionable moves then we are not on the same page.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 28 @ 4:55 PM ET
Sorry, can't do it in eight minutes, lol If you do not think he ruined Carolina with ridiculous signings and questionable moves then we are not on the same page.
- flyerdude17


Sure, but he has been very good at signings so far for Pittsburgh so your point doesn't hold value.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 28 @ 4:55 PM ET
Every team has question marks in the cap era. Pens have their fair share, but for the first time in years the forward depth is very solid.
- jfkst1


I agree , no argument there.
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Jul 28 @ 4:55 PM ET
Sorry, can't do it in eight minutes, lol If you do not think he ruined Carolina with ridiculous signings and questionable moves then we are not on the same page.
- flyerdude17


I wasn't asking how he did it to Carolina. How has he, or how is he, doing the same in Pittsburgh?
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 28 @ 4:57 PM ET
Sure, but he has been very good at signings so far for Pittsburgh so your point doesn't hold value.
- jfkst1


Signings are one thing, how they do and where the team finishes will be better proof of whether they were great signings or not. Last year when Ehroff got signed everyone in Pittsburg was overjoyed, the rest is history and seriously it did not work out. Trading Desprees for Lovejoy was a clueless move, right ??
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 28 @ 4:58 PM ET
I wasn't asking how he did it to Carolina. How has he, or how is he, doing the same in Pittsburgh?
- Pens_Burgh


Despres for Lovejoy will haunt you forever, that is one for starters
mw630
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 28 @ 4:58 PM ET
Sorry, can't do it in eight minutes, lol If you do not think he ruined Carolina with ridiculous signings and questionable moves then we are not on the same page.
- flyerdude17


He also had almost complete control in Carolina to make the moves he did. There is more than one cook in the kitchen in Pittsburgh right now. I would be interested to know who all was involved, and to what extent, in making this deal from Pittsburgh's side.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jul 28 @ 4:58 PM ET
I think if the Penguins can pull off dumping Scuderi and getting another top 4 dman, I think that puts them over the top in the east.

but... as we all know injuries will kill us and we will lose in the first round and then trade everyone... knock on wood.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 28 @ 4:58 PM ET
I wasn't asking how he did it to Carolina. How has he, or how is he, doing the same in Pittsburgh?
- Pens_Burgh


Since you did not ask, who signed Semin to the god awful contract in Carolina??
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jul 28 @ 4:59 PM ET
Despres for Lovejoy will haunt you forever, that is one for starters
- flyerdude17

if that is for "starters" please continue because I'm not seeing it at all...

Despres for Lovejoy was awful. We know it, he knows it, heck Ben Lovejoy probably knows it.

1 bad move doesnt negate the fact that he has made a ton of shrewd moves in his time here.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 28 @ 5:00 PM ET
He also had almost complete control in Carolina to make the moves he did. There is more than one cook in the kitchen in Pittsburgh right now. I would be interested to know who all was involved, and to what extent, in making this deal from Pittsburgh's side.
- mw630


That is a very good point, he may be the GM but no doubt his moves must be approved by Mario or somebody that knows the game.
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Jul 28 @ 5:01 PM ET
Despres for Lovejoy will haunt you forever, that is one for starters
- flyerdude17


Not really, he won't be anything more than a mid pairing at best. He's not that good of a puck moving dman, same reason Harrington was easier to trade. Clendening fits our system better than both of them.
mw630
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 28 @ 5:01 PM ET
Despres for Lovejoy will haunt you forever, that is one for starters
- flyerdude17


If that's the worst thing he does in his time in Pittsburgh, I'll be ok with it. Yes, it was a bad trade. But in the bigger picture, Despres is a 5/6 defenseman with the potential to be a #4. I would like a do over on that trade, but that will never make/break the Pens.

We have to wait and see how this works out, but JR is setting the Pens up to be successful if they can stay healthy. That's really the most you can ask out of GM at this point in the season.
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