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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 14 @ 8:15 PM ET
Of course we don't know ! But two years ago doesn't mean crap !

I'm just saying that Dallas is basically no closer than Buffalo now if we're TRULY stacking teams. They can't compete with the upper echelon. They're not winning anything.

He'd sign there for money only. He's not gonna go there and expect to win.

- Pairo11



He may go there because he likes the city better.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 8:17 PM ET
Of course we don't know ! But two years ago doesn't mean crap !

I'm just saying that Dallas is basically no closer than Buffalo now if we're TRULY stacking teams. They can't compete with the upper echelon. They're not winning anything.

He'd sign there for money only. He's not gonna go there and expect to win.

- Pairo11


I think the perception in the league is that Dallas is closer than Buffalo. They have two of the top ten points producers from last year. A solid goalie tandem. Spezza, Sharp ,Nichushkin aren't slouches either. Defense obviously needs work and they play in the western conference which is a lot harder than the east IMO but I think having those two top ten players makes it seem more attractive over say Buffalo who is seen as young and up in coming. Not say I agree but it's how I could see some players viewing the situation.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 14 @ 8:17 PM ET
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with some that say Dallas is close to winning a cup, they aren't even close.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 14 @ 8:30 PM ET
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with some that say Dallas is close to winning a cup, they aren't even close.
- SABRES 89


I think the argument was they are closer to the cup than the Sabres. Not that they are close to the cup in general
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 14 @ 8:37 PM ET
I think the argument was they are closer to the cup than the Sabres. Not that they are close to the cup in general
- Stripes77

But are they? I know they have some talent. But I think both teams have huge gaps left to get over that hump.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jul 14 @ 8:37 PM ET
I think the perception in the league is that Dallas is closer than Buffalo. They have two of the top ten points producers from last year. A solid goalie tandem. Spezza, Sharp ,Nichushkin aren't slouches either. Defense obviously needs work and they play in the western conference which is a lot harder than the east IMO but I think having those two top ten players makes it seem more attractive over say Buffalo who is seen as young and up in coming. Not say I agree but it's how I could see some players viewing the situation.
- bluengold12

I agree they're better than Buffalo but they're just not in th same league as CHI, NYR, MON, TAM, etc.

Any FA that says "I'm going to Dallas to win" is laughing all the way to the bank.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 8:38 PM ET
It might be 4 yrs 20 mill
- SABRES 89


SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 14 @ 8:41 PM ET
I think the argument was they are closer to the cup than the Sabres. Not that they are close to the cup in general
- Stripes77

That's not saying much
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 14 @ 8:42 PM ET
But are they? I know they have some talent. But I think both teams have huge gaps left to get over that hump.
- SabresFaninIndiana


Than the Sabres right now? Absolutely. The Sabres have a bunch of unknowns all over their roster forward, defense, goaltending. The Stars have 2 of the best players in the game right now. Plus 2 really good (yet paying too much) goaltenders. Their biggest question is their blue line. Sure in 2 years we hope differently but as of right now the Stars are much closers. The Sabres are coming off back to back last place finishes.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 14 @ 8:42 PM ET
I think the argument was they are closer to the cup than the Sabres. Not that they are close to the cup in general
- Stripes77


Today the Stars are a better team. Are they closer to winning the cup? (frank) no.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 8:42 PM ET
I agree they're better than Buffalo but they're just not in th same league as CHI, NYR, MON, TAM, etc.

Any FA that says "I'm going to Dallas to win" is laughing all the way to the bank.

- Pairo11


Which would be surprising for Oduya to choose them over us when we would be offering more term and money.. Dallas is a bigger city sure but that's about it.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 14 @ 8:42 PM ET
That's not saying much
- SABRES 89


I agree.
riptheguard
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.08.2005

Jul 14 @ 8:43 PM ET
How much influence, if any, do bogo and Kane have?
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 8:45 PM ET
How much influence, if any, do bogo and Kane have?
- riptheguard


Probably less than a teammate from two cups in Sharp
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jul 14 @ 8:51 PM ET
Which would be surprising for Oduya to choose them over us when we would be offering more term and money.. Dallas is a bigger city sure but that's about it.
- bluengold12

Exactly.

I wouldn't be surprised if TM is on the phone right now. He gets what he wants. Except Burke.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 8:57 PM ET
He may go there because he likes the city better.
- Sabresfan-365

Nobody likes to admit that might be the case...
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 8:58 PM ET
Nobody likes to admit that might be the case...
- jochfr


I've never been but have been told from friends from Texas it's nothing special. Just big with some good expensive restaurants. Yeah better weather and more of a large market but that's about it in terms of hockey attractiveness
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 14 @ 8:59 PM ET
Which would be surprising for Oduya to choose them over us when we would be offering more term and money.. Dallas is a bigger city sure but that's about it.
- bluengold12



Is someone reporting that it's between us & Dallas?
I haven't been around for a few days
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 9:00 PM ET
Is someone reporting that it's between us & Dallas?
I haven't been around for a few days

- jdfitz77


Been widely speculated that its either us or Dallas with Boston being an outside chance. Most reporters are speculated Dallas has the inside chance but that Buffalo is a serious contender.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jul 14 @ 9:02 PM ET
I've never been but have been told from friends from Texas it's nothing special. Just big with some good expensive restaurants. Yeah better weather and more of a large market but that's about it in terms of hockey attractiveness
- bluengold12

Texas is hot as hell and if you get outside of a city there is NOTHING !!!
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 9:04 PM ET
Probably less than a teammate from two cups in Sharp
- bluengold12


That's If sharp did not get to his girl yet
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 14 @ 9:04 PM ET
How much influence, if any, do bogo and Kane have?
- riptheguard



I'd like to think it could help rip, never know. I did read earlier today that Sharp is putting on the full court press to get Oduya in big D.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 9:04 PM ET
Texas is hot as hell and if you get outside of a city there is NOTHING !!!
- Pairo11


Only city I hear is worth visiting or spending significant time in is Austin. I hear Austin is awesome
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 9:06 PM ET
can we just trade for tobias enstrom and not sign johnny
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 14 @ 9:06 PM ET
Only city I hear is worth visiting or spending significant time in is Austin. I hear Austin is awesome
- bluengold12



Been to Austin several times, great city, especially the local music scene on 5th street. San Antonio is great too.
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