I didn't hear anything about that.
- SABRES 89

Just a guess on my part. Maybe one of those things is the sweetener. Especially if Murray really wants him.

You know, even if we don't sign another D I'm not going to get a knot in my thong over it. Let's be honest. This will be a fringe playoff team at best. I'm going to still have a hell of a lot of fun seeing Risto, Bogo, Ruhwedel, McCabe, Pysyk and others get better and better.

After the last two years I'm playing with house money.

Just a guess on my part. Maybe one of those things is the sweetener. Especially if Murray really wants him.
- mhp

If DAL really is our main competition remember that there's no TEX state income tax, so we have to overpay just because if that. 4.5 from DAL probably wins out over 5 from BUf due to the tax and The fact DAL is more win now. I would think we'd have to beat DALs offer by 1m per year or by adding a year to what DAL is willing to pay

Just a guess on my part. Maybe one of those things is the sweetener. Especially if Murray really wants him.
- mhp

Murray upping his offer IMO is a sweetener IMO, 4 yrs 20 mill is another one.

If DAL really is our main competition remember that there's no TEX state income tax, so we have to overpay just because if that. 4.5 from DAL probably wins out over 5 from BUf due to the tax and The fact DAL is more win now. I would think we'd have to beat DALs offer by 1m per year or by adding a year to what DAL is willing to pay
- turbo044

Dallas may be more "win now" compared to Buffalo but it's kind of like a Buffalo being at 150-1 odds and Dallas is a 75-1 odds scenario.

In two years that will be reversed and Buffalo could be on the cusp.

IMO he's not going to Dallas because he feels they'll be competing. They're not close.

Dallas may be more "win now" compared to Buffalo but it's kind of like a Buffalo being at 150-1 odds and Dallas is a 75-1 odds scenario.

In two years that will be reversed and Buffalo could be on the cusp.

IMO he's not going to Dallas because he feels they'll be competing. They're not close.
- Pairo11

Do we know this as a fact? 2 years ago they were a goal away from beating anaheim in game 7.

If we sign Oduya for four years It would put him at 38, a year younger than Ehrhoff would have been when his contract expired.

If we sign Oduya for four years It would put him at 38, a year younger than Ehrhoff would have been when his contract expired.
- sbroads24

Who cares Ehrhoff is gone and didn't want to be here and this team is different then when Ehrhoff was here.

Ehrhoff was another bad contract given out by Darcy, good to see Murray taking out Darcy's trash.

Who cares Ehrhoff is gone and didn't want to be here and this team is different then when Ehrhoff was here.
- SABRES 89

For the love of God, Oduya is 33 and would be 37/at the end if a 4 yr contract. He's old enough, don't make him older

4 years for Oduya is not very smart IMO but Murray seems focused on him.
- SABRES 89

I would rather us pay him for 4 years of service but only sign him for 3

For the love of God, Oduya is 33 and would be 37/at the end if a 4 yr contract. He's old enough, don't make him older
- turbo044

Um............ I'm not making him older

Looks like no Oduya signing today... Would bet either way we find out tomorrow.

I would rather us pay him for 4 years of service but only sign him for 3
- SabresFaninIndiana

It's going to take 4 but for the Stars I bet he signs at 3, in time players will come to Buffalo.

Murray upping his offer IMO is a sweetener IMO, 4 yrs 20 mill is another one.
- SABRES 89

I would prefer we offer him 20 over 3.

Um............ I'm not making him older
- SABRES 89

So you're NOT God?

It's going to take 4 but for the Stars I bet he signs at 3, in time players will come to Buffalo.
- SABRES 89

Say no to 4. Wait till someone is getting rid of young studs or expiring contracts at the deadline and make the move

Even if we don't get Johnny O, there will be other d men Murray will target and do something before camp starts. There are guys available that could be signed on 1 year deals.

So you're NOT God?
- SabresFaninIndiana

Last time I checked....no

Even if we don't get Johnny O, there will be other d men Murray will target and do something before camp starts. There are guys available that could be signed on 1 year deals.
- mhp

Yes. But there is quite the drop off on the left from oduya

Do we know this as a fact? 2 years ago they were a goal away from beating anaheim in game 7.
- Sabresfan-365

Of course we don't know ! But two years ago doesn't mean crap !

I'm just saying that Dallas is basically no closer than Buffalo now if we're TRULY stacking teams. They can't compete with the upper echelon. They're not winning anything.

He'd sign there for money only. He's not gonna go there and expect to win.

Say no to 4. Wait till someone is getting rid of young studs or expiring contracts at the deadline and make the move
- SabresFaninIndiana

Let's see what happens with Stepan and the Rangers to see about Yandle.

Let's see what happens with Stepan and the Rangers to see about Yandle.
- SABRES 89

Yandle would be nice but oduya is mucho cheapero in terms of assets

Yes. But there is quite the drop off on the left from oduya
- SabresFaninIndiana

true.

Yandle would be nice but oduya is mucho cheapero in terms of assets
- SabresFaninIndiana

That's why I mentioned earlier to sign Oduya