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Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jul 14 @ 4:57 PM ET
Go to a game in Nashville, You will change your tune. Great atmosphere.
- ImThatGuy

Agreed!!
Been there a few time, it was fun.
Good music, hot southern women!!
And, awesome bars on Broadway, with killer beers on tap!
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 4:57 PM ET
So by the sounds of it... most people want to pay Oduya 5+M AAV for 3 years as a stop gap until our young'n's are ready to eat more minutes. That just seems like a waste to me.

There has to be someone else better out there than a 34 year old dude for that job. I personally think that Risto could handle the time on the ice. He lead all of our defensemen in points and TOI last season and even had our best +/- if I remember right.

- JVince11


No I want him for three years as a stop gap number 1 pairing defenesman until we can trade or sign for another one. No one in our prospect pool beside Ristolainen is capable of being a top pairing defenceman in the next five years
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 14 @ 4:57 PM ET
So by the sounds of it... most people want to pay Oduya 5+M AAV for 3 years as a stop gap until our young'n's are ready to eat more minutes. That just seems like a waste to me.

There has to be someone else better out there than a 34 year old dude for that job. I personally think that Risto could handle the time on the ice. He lead all of our defensemen in points and TOI last season and even had our best +/- if I remember right.

- JVince11



That 34 year old dude just won a Stanley Cup. And also broke into the league a later age than most, so he doesn't have the amount of miles on him that you would think.

He's not Nik Lidstrom, but we could use a vet guy like him here. Do I want to sign him to anything crazy? No. But we need someone and I'm sorry, anyone else left out there is more the caliber of Mike Weber for the most part.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 14 @ 4:58 PM ET
So by the sounds of it... most people want to pay Oduya 5+M AAV for 3 years as a stop gap until our young'n's are ready to eat more minutes. That just seems like a waste to me.

There has to be someone else better out there than a 34 year old dude for that job. I personally think that Risto could handle the time on the ice. He lead all of our defensemen in points and TOI last season and even had our best +/- if I remember right.

- JVince11


He's 33 but who's counting.

A waste of what?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 14 @ 4:59 PM ET
That 34 year old dude just won a Stanley Cup. And also broke into the league a later age than most, so he doesn't have the amount of miles on him that you would think.

He's not Nik Lidstrom, but we could use a vet guy like him here. Do I want to sign him to anything crazy? No. But we need someone and I'm sorry, anyone else left out there is more the caliber of Mike Weber for the most part.

- HonkFortheGoose



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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 5:00 PM ET
I second this.... Nashville is a GREAT smaller town market for hockey. It is pretty darn comparable to Buffalo. Not a huge city in per capita like a Philly, Pitt, Boston, Chicago, etc but them fans LOVE their hockey there.
- JVince11


Nashville hockey fan base similar to Buffalo??? Come on... When 17.000 show up for a scrimmage and they have a few bad years and still come close to or do sell out then talk to me. I retract the Nashville Dallas comparison but I put Buffalo fan base up there with Philadelphia and Winnipeg
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:00 PM ET
That 34 year old dude just won a Stanley Cup. And also broke into the league a later age than most, so he doesn't have the amount of miles on him that you would think.

He's not Nik Lidstrom, but we could use a vet guy like him here. Do I want to sign him to anything crazy? No. But we need someone and I'm sorry, anyone else left out there is more the caliber of Mike Weber for the most part.

- HonkFortheGoose

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Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:01 PM ET
Nashville hockey fan base similar to Buffalo??? Come on... When 17.000 show up for a scrimmage and they have a few bad years and still come close to or do sell out then talk to me. I retract the Nashville Dallas comparison but I put Buffalo fan base up there with Philadelphia and Winnipeg
- bluengold12

I would put us above Nashville fan base, any given day!
But, Nashville fans are ok.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 5:02 PM ET
Nashville hockey fan base similar to Buffalo??? Come on... When 17.000 show up for a scrimmage and they have a few bad years and still come close to or do sell out then talk to me. I retract the Nashville Dallas comparison but I put Buffalo fan base up there with Philadelphia and Winnipeg
- bluengold12

It's not... I'm wondering if he just meant small market team (as far as comparable)...?
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 5:02 PM ET
Agreed!!
Been there a few time, it was fun.
Good music, hot southern women!!
And, awesome bars on Broadway, with killer beers on tap!

- Sabresfan88


As a city I'd agree. I've heard nothing but awesome things about Nashville and it's probably a lot more exciting than Buffalo. In terms of fan bases... They don't exactly have great ones especially in football...
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 14 @ 5:02 PM ET
He's 33 but who's counting.

A waste of what?

- Homer


He is also a Stanley Cup winner...who eats a ton of minutes, is left handed (a position of need) and can hold the place until the kids are ready.

Think of a Matt Moulson on the blue line only better at his position than Moulson is.

Not a waste at all.

He won't cost assets, won't cost us when it comes to signing the kids (if its a 3 year or under deal). He is pretty much the perfect guy that's available. It's not our money, it helps the team be better which isn't that the point? To get better?
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 5:04 PM ET
It's not... I'm wondering if he just meant small market team (as far as comparable)...?
- jochfr


Possibly.. Yes but in terms of cap space an spending we're not really a small market team anymore. Only in terms of revenue and population
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:05 PM ET
As a city I'd agree. I've heard nothing but awesome things about Nashville and it's probably a lot more exciting than Buffalo. In terms of fan bases... They don't exactly have great ones especially in football...
- bluengold12

Yea.
Buffalo fan base ( Bills and Sabres ) are next to none!! IMO
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 5:06 PM ET
As a city I'd agree. I've heard nothing but awesome things about Nashville and it's probably a lot more exciting than Buffalo. In terms of fan bases... They don't exactly have great ones especially in football...
- bluengold12

When Nashville was bad the fan base was anemic... They were practically begging fans to come to the games not too long ago.


Also they were almost sold to Basille and possibly moved...
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:07 PM ET
Possibly.. Yes but in terms of cap space an spending we're not really a small market team anymore. Only in terms of revenue and population
- bluengold12

Even for population, I guess there is a big crown in each game that travels from out of town to catch Bills and Sabres game constantly.
I do it myself a lot, every season.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 14 @ 5:09 PM ET
Go to a game in Nashville, You will change your tune. Great atmosphere.
- ImThatGuy


Went to a game last year, had a blast, really knowledgeable and passionate fan base. Love that they have a craft beer vender in the arena as well as chicken and waffle sandwiches. Love anything unique, all Calgary has is Molson poop and hot dogs and hamburgers
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 14 @ 5:10 PM ET
He is also a Stanley Cup winner...who eats a ton of minutes, is left handed (a position of need) and can hold the place until the kids are ready.

Think of a Matt Moulson on the blue line only better at his position than Moulson is.

Not a waste at all.

He won't cost assets, won't cost us when it comes to signing the kids (if its a 3 year or under deal). He is pretty much the perfect guy that's available. It's not our money, it helps the team be better which isn't that the point? To get better?

- Stripes77


Agree on all of it except I'm not sure I'd say he is a better Dman than Moulson is a forward, but that's the point anyway.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:10 PM ET
It's not... I'm wondering if he just meant small market team (as far as comparable)...?
- jochfr


yes.. smaller market team like Buffalo.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 14 @ 5:10 PM ET
COME ON LET'S GO FOR JOHNNY O!!
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:11 PM ET
No I want him for three years as a stop gap number 1 pairing defenesman until we can trade or sign for another one. No one in our prospect pool beside Ristolainen is capable of being a top pairing defenceman in the next five years
- bluengold12


He is not that... he is NOT a top pairing guy. He was barely a 2nd pairing guy in Chicago
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:11 PM ET
No I want him for three years as a stop gap number 1 pairing defenesman until we can trade or sign for another one. No one in our prospect pool beside Ristolainen is capable of being a top pairing defenceman in the next five years
- bluengold12


He is not that... he is NOT a top pairing guy. He was barely a 2nd pairing guy in Chicago
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:12 PM ET
He's 33 but who's counting.

A waste of what?

- Homer


he is 34 in October so basically 90% of the season he will be 34.

A waste of money and time on the ice that could further benefit our other players instead of him.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 5:15 PM ET
He is not that... he is NOT a top pairing guy. He was barely a 2nd pairing guy in Chicago
- JVince11

Yeah but that makes him a top pairing guy in Buffalo, tbh...

jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 5:15 PM ET
Went to a game last year, had a blast, really knowledgeable and passionate fan base. Love that they have a craft beer vender in the arena as well as chicken and waffle sandwiches. Love anything unique, all Calgary has is Molson poop and hot dogs and hamburgers
- DDM-Coga

Did you stay a few days?
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:18 PM ET
Yeah but that makes him a top pairing guy in Buffalo, tbh...
- jochfr


yea sure.... "Ville Leino is a 2nd line guy in Philly so he should be a 1st line guy in Buffalo"

That works out well.

Craig Rivet ring a bell here to anyone else?
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