We kept teams to low scoring considering . We lost many 1-0 and 2-1 games last season. We just couldn't score.
- cabin

I second this...

Granted I tuned out at points int he season but its not like we were a last place team that got beat 6-2 every night.

I just don't see it. He will be 35 years old in October. He was a 4th D-man rotating with Rosizival for bottom pairing for most of the season and playoffs. He had the worst rating and numbers of the Chicago D-men in the playoffs.
- JVince11

Anyone considering him a savior is buying hype, pure and simple. But he's a decent middle pairing defenseman who IMO rates at or above Georges in capability, and would fill a hole. After 3 years who cares.

I honestly believe that between Bogo, Pysyk, Risto, and Gorges... we can find a top 4 that is very suitable.

I think we should only chase a player like Oduya if you are missing "that one piece" that puts you into deep contention. I just don't see Oduya as our missing piece. We need a 30 years or less type veteran guy. Granted, they don't grow on trees but to just throw money out there doesn't seem smart. We are over the floor now I believe.

I just don't see it. He will be 35 years old in October. He was a 4th D-man rotating with Rosizival for bottom pairing for most of the season and playoffs. He had the worst rating and numbers of the Chicago D-men in the playoffs.
- JVince11

Albeit, on a cup winning team!!
Look, we just need an average player for a few years!!
He will not be a cornerstone on our team's defense.
So what do we call a player like that ?? A stop-gap??

they have no defense though I'm not saying we're some powerhouse I'm just explaining to him that they're not even close to a cup
- gerbe75pts

They had how many more wins than we did? They are closer.

It's not like they aren't talented either

Anyone considering him a savior is buying hype, pure and simple. But he's a decent middle pairing defenseman who IMO rates at or above Georges in capability, and would fill a hole. After 3 years who cares.
- nfph

^^THIS^^

I just don't see it. He will be 35 years old in October. He was a 4th D-man rotating with Rosizival for bottom pairing for most of the season and playoffs. He had the worst rating and numbers of the Chicago D-men in the playoffs.
- JVince11

34 in October, he's 33 now. He also is a workout fiend

They had how many more wins than we did? They are closer.

It's not like they aren't talented either
- sbroads24

They 're not Maybe if they fix the d lol

Anyone considering him a savior is buying hype, pure and simple. But he's a decent middle pairing defenseman who IMO rates at or above Georges in capability, and would fill a hole. After 3 years who cares.
- nfph

Who sees him as a savior? He is a 4-5 defenseman. He is also left-handed and doesn't cost us any prospects.

They had how many more wins than we did? They are closer.

It's not like they aren't talented either
- sbroads24

Why would you count wins? That's just crazy talk...

Anyone considering him a savior is buying hype, pure and simple. But he's a decent middle pairing defenseman who IMO rates at or above Georges in capability, and would fill a hole. After 3 years who cares.
- nfph

I'd agree with this.. Unfortunately on this team he'd be a top pairing guy. If Murray can maybe slimmer of hope pull off a September deal then I'd say wait but 3 years 15 million would be what I'd hope the offer is and a fair one for this year at that.

I'd agree with this.. Unfortunately on this team he'd be a top pairing guy. If Murray can maybe slimmer of hope pull off a September deal then I'd say wait but 3 years 15 million would be what I'd hope the offer is and a fair one for this year at that.
- bluengold12

He won't be top pairing unless he earns it. That will sort itself out over the next two years. He fits a need and price wasn't a concern because of our cap number.

I honestly believe that between Bogo, Pysyk, Risto, and Gorges... we can find a top 4 that is very suitable.

I think we should only chase a player like Oduya if you are missing "that one piece" that puts you into deep contention. I just don't see Oduya as our missing piece. We need a 30 years or less type veteran guy. Granted, they don't grow on trees but to just throw money out there doesn't seem smart. We are over the floor now I believe.
- JVince11

If you're counting on 2 rookies (basically) and a guy who just had microfracture surgery on his knee to fill out the top 4, you're looking to be a lottery winner again in 2016 IMHO (Matthews anyone??)

Albeit, on a cup winning team!!
Look, we just need an average player for a few years!!
He will not be a cornerstone on our team's defense.
So what do we call a player like that ?? A stop-gap??

- Sabresfan88

If you just want a stop gap defenseman then whats the point. There are plenty of those guys out there, go sign defenseman x for less money.

If you just want a stop gap defenseman then whats the point. There are plenty of those guys out there, go sign defenseman x for less money.
- sambarugh

Because money/cap space isn't an issue? I would over pay for him, but only on a shirt term deal, two years maybe. I'd feel a lot better about this teams playoff chances if they had one more solid NHL defenseman.

If you just want a stop gap defenseman then whats the point. There are plenty of those guys out there, go sign defenseman x for less money.
- sambarugh

Who would that be? He and Erhoff are markedly better than anything left and I doubt Hoff is an option.

Further proof we deserve JO (though this is quite the stretch):

This thread is about to go over 1,000 posts
The DAL one from a day earlier is at 45. Rabid fan base in Dal, huh?

If you're counting on 2 rookies (basically) and a guy who just had microfracture surgery on his knee to fill out the top 4, you're looking to be a lottery winner again in 2016 IMHO (Matthews anyone??)
- turbo044

I don't know about anyone else, but, I do not want to even think about finishing last, tanking, ......... or anything in that line, after what we went through as fans these past 2 years!!!

http://wivb.com/2015/07/1...rush-hour-delays-in-conn/

Because money/cap space isn't an issue? I would over pay for him, but only on a shirt term deal, two years maybe. I'd feel a lot better about this teams playoff chances if they had one more solid NHL defenseman.
- Homer

I agree.
And, it will not cost us any picks, or prospects.

Who would that be? He and Erhoff are markedly better than anything left and I doubt Hoff is an option.
- Slump Buster

People are calling him a stop gap defenseman, how does that speak well to him. What about Anton Volchenkov, he's left handed, is he a stop gap too?

Further proof we deserve JO (though this is quite the stretch):

This thread is about to go over 1,000 posts
The DAL one from a day earlier is at 45. Rabid fan base in Dal, huh?
- turbo044

one crappy rumor website does not a fan base make... but i agree

He won't be top pairing unless he earns it. That will sort itself out over the next two years. He fits a need and price wasn't a concern because of our cap number.
- Slump Buster

Well hypothetically he's on this team which is not a give in

Oduya Gorges Weber Donovan....

Oduya is the best LHD out of that group no question

People are calling him a stop gap defenseman, how does that speak well to him. What about Anton Volchenkov, he's left handed, is he a stop gap too?
- sambarugh

They mean he doesn't have to come in and set the world on fire. He can be a mid-pairing defenseman, shoot left handed and maybe help out on the PP. And in 3 years you hope we have better, younger D.

Who sees him as a savior? He is a 4-5 defenseman. He is also left-handed and doesn't cost us any prospects.
- Slump Buster

Everyone who posts about their major disappointment when we don't sign him will qualify.