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chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 14 @ 2:54 AM ET
yeah it does suck a little but i cant see any serious consequences in terms of the nhl. I think it may have hurt the team mentally more than anything, but were quite a ways away from the season for all i know it will be a little blip on the radar and forgotten quickly.
- gerbe42

It's just that we just payed him a lot, expecting big things from him. And the first thing he does as a Sabre is crash his truck into a Tim Hortons. Kind of funny from an outside point of view. It wouldn't be Buffalo if the best player we've acquired in years didn't get drunk and smash into something.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 14 @ 2:56 AM ET
Impaired driving not drunk driving. Not making excuses but there is a big difference.
- Stripes77

The difference is how much a person makes a year when charged with impaired driving rather than drunk driving.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 14 @ 2:59 AM ET
The fact that no one was hurt does not make it less of a crime.
- Cheeseballin

Actually it literally does.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 14 @ 6:19 AM ET
I'm just finding out about this now. Wtf? I give up.
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 14 @ 6:25 AM ET
I'm just finding out about this now. Wtf? I give up.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 14 @ 6:28 AM ET
no


worst part is the sabres kind of need to send a message to the young players that this is not the sabre way


- homiedclown


I never thought I'd say this, but I like the green crocs better.
https://mobile.twitter.co...49969971850534913/photo/1
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 14 @ 7:13 AM ET
http://thechive.com/2012/08/09/who-knew-mugshots-could-be-so-attractive-20-photos/

11 gets the gold
15 gets the silver
1 gets the bronze

3 looks like she had the most fun

- homiedclown


Chive on.

14 looks like Eva Mendes
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jul 14 @ 7:31 AM ET


does the mug shot make her look hot or not?

- homiedclown



Hellz yes.

Not even a question.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 14 @ 7:43 AM ET
If we had it your way our teams would be filled with Ryan Fitzpatrick's and Nathan Gerbe's... Sometimes winners are wieners in real life. I don't condone Kromer's actions but as for the other issue at hand you need to put your morals aside here.
- bluengold12


Yikes...that's no way to live...
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 14 @ 8:17 AM ET
The difference is how much a person makes a year when charged with impaired driving rather than drunk driving.
- Mentalorgasm5



What does that mean?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 14 @ 8:20 AM ET
I am also just finding out about this. Been in NC for the weekend white water rafting.

Sabres player or not, He needs to be made an example of. Pegula needs to step up if the NHL does not. Suspend him for the first 10 games of the season without pay.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 14 @ 8:25 AM ET
What does that mean?
- Canada Cup



He's implying that if you have money and stature, you're most likely going to get an opportunity to plea down to a lesser charge and lighter sentence than you would if you didn't.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 14 @ 8:30 AM ET
I am also just finding out about this. Been in NC for the weekend white water rafting.

Sabres player or not, He needs to be made an example of. Pegula needs to step up if the NHL does not. Suspend him for the first 10 games of the season without pay.

- ImThatGuy


So I don't condone driving while under an impaired state...no matter what the legal term is...DUI, DWi, etc.
That said, I also believe the punishment needs to be commensurate with the infraction. When the Alcohol level is converted to our measurement in The States, it equals 0.08 ... Which is barely impaired LEGALLY.

To me the bigger issue is what he did afterwords...by leaving the scene, and then ditching the truck and continuing to try to avoid responsibility on foot.
For the Sabres, THAT should be the issue for a guy they want to be a leader and mentor the youngins.
Therefore, the punishment from the Sabres should focus on that issue, in my mind.
Let the legal system deal with the impaired driving issue.
2 lessons for the cost of two punishments.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 14 @ 8:30 AM ET
I am also just finding out about this. Been in NC for the weekend white water rafting.

Sabres player or not, He needs to be made an example of. Pegula needs to step up if the NHL does not. Suspend him for the first 10 games of the season without pay.

- ImThatGuy


Glad you made it back safe and sound.

Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 14 @ 8:33 AM ET
He's implying that if you have money and stature, you're most likely going to get an opportunity to plea down to a lesser charge and lighter sentence than you would if you didn't.
- buffalofan19



This is untrue at least here. What is true is that good lawyers can be more effective in getting people off drinking and driving type charges. They tend to be more technical (are the machines calibrated properly, how much time from offence to when he was tested, was testing done right, etc). Obviously, guys like ROR can get better lawyers so more money and stature do increase your chances.

His best bet though is to plead guilty right away. He will end up with a criminal record, driving prohibitions, some other conditions but no jail time.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 14 @ 8:34 AM ET
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 14 @ 8:35 AM ET
So I don't condone driving while under an impaired state...no matter what the legal term is...DUI, DWi, etc.
That said, I also believe the punishment needs to be commensurate with the infraction. When the Alcohol level is converted to our measurement in The States, it equals 0.08 ... Which is barely impaired LEGALLY.

To me the bigger issue is what he did afterwords...by leaving the scene, and then ditching the truck and continuing to try to avoid responsibility on foot.
For the Sabres, THAT should be the issue for a guy they want to be a leader and mentor the youngins.
Therefore, the punishment from the Sabres should focus on that issue, in my mind.
Let the legal system deal with the impaired driving issue.
2 lessons for the cost of two punishments.

- IonSabres



Didnt they test him at .08 well after the incident? Meaning his BAC was higher when the incident happened.

Regardless of that, he needs to be suspended for both. You set an example for your young organization that nothing will be tolerated, regardless of "name recognition"
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 14 @ 8:38 AM ET
Didnt they test him at .08 well after the incident? Meaning his BAC was higher when the incident happened.

Regardless of that, he needs to be suspended for both. You set an example for your young organization that nothing will be tolerated, regardless of "name recognition"

- ImThatGuy



The charge would be for being over the limit. There's no info on how far over. The tests need to happen within a specific time after the incident.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 14 @ 8:45 AM ET
SabresBuzz ‏@SabresBuzz 57m57 minutes ago
I expect Sabres to lick up Johnny Oduya. He and Hjalmarsson were Chicago's shut down D pair in playoffs, Cup Finals

SabresBuzz ‏@SabresBuzz 52m52 minutes ago
I expect Sabres to lock up Johnny Oduya. He and Nik Hjalmarsson were shut down D pair for Hawks in playoffs and Cup Finals


I knew he cared.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 14 @ 8:46 AM ET
Before we go all ape crazy on ROR and base opinions on these reports, I'd like to hear from him and his side of it. It's bad no question and the Sabres are in a bit of a spot here but I have this feeling it'll sort itself out. The Sabres are investing a lot of money in him and have a decision to make as to what they want to do.

I just prefer to be more open minded and here the whole story. In the end the Sabres will need to do something about him. I don't want to make a knee jerk reaction at this point.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jul 14 @ 8:46 AM ET
Didnt they test him at .08 well after the incident? Meaning his BAC was higher when the incident happened.

Regardless of that, he needs to be suspended for both. You set an example for your young organization that nothing will be tolerated, regardless of "name recognition"

- ImThatGuy



He will be suspended from the NHL for a handful of games.

He now has to get a machine put in his car to test him periodically.

I don't think it will be an issue... but the border does not have to let him into the States now.

Could you imagine that... .
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 14 @ 8:47 AM ET
SabresBuzz ‏@SabresBuzz 57m57 minutes ago
I expect Sabres to lick up Johnny Oduya. He and Hjalmarsson were Chicago's shut down D pair in playoffs, Cup Finals

SabresBuzz ‏@SabresBuzz 52m52 minutes ago
I expect Sabres to lock up Johnny Oduya. He and Nik Hjalmarsson were shut down D pair for Hawks in playoffs and Cup Finals


I knew he cared.

- TheSabresTaco


I think he signs with Dallas.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 14 @ 8:49 AM ET
He will be suspended from the NHL for a handful of games.

He now has to get a machine put in his car to test him periodically.

I don't think it will be an issue... but the border does not have to let him into the States now.

Could you imagine that... .

- jimmc7722


I'm relatively certain the US doesn't give a poop. It's Canada that has a problem.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jul 14 @ 8:51 AM ET
I think he signs with Dallas.
- mhp



Yeah, but will Dallas "lick him up"?
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 14 @ 8:53 AM ET
Before we go all ape crazy on ROR and base opinions on these reports, I'd like to hear from him and his side of it. It's bad no question and the Sabres are in a bit of a spot here but I have this feeling it'll sort itself out. The Sabres are investing a lot of money in him and have a decision to make as to what they want to do.

I just prefer to be more open minded and here the whole story. In the end the Sabres will need to do something about him. I don't want to make a knee jerk reaction at this point.

- mhp

i prefer the Jesse Jackson approach.. take the little information we have from the media that was worded as poorly as we can and work up the masses until they riot.... lets storm the FNC and demand that he be kicked off the team
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