Hamhuis was on Team Canada at the last Olympics.

Coburn fetched a 1st, 3rd and Gudas (serviceable young 3rd pair dman)

Hamhuis should net a 1st +.
Vrbata might not given his playoff record. But certainly something like a 2 2nds or 2nd and 3rd.
Prust a 3rd
Weber a 3rd or 4th depending on production.

Hamhuis would defintelly fetch a 1st IMO ...vrbata too ...I've been down on a lot of Canucks players thrown into trades but these two have appeal to contending teams
- Redmile247

Vrbata showed he just needs a setup guy to score.

Hamhuis, just by being selected to team Canada last Olympics indicates some hockey minds think he can play. He has value.

I wouldn't mind if Edler was moved either, if we could somehow get a mid round or earlier first rounder. No rush to move him though, just think he will always have back issues and can't play big for long before his back gets screwed up again.

Olympic gold medal winning team canada defenseman....so arguably one of the best 8-10 defenseman in the country. For a second round pick at the deadline? Ummm shake you're head. I'd say two firsts are very possible. Certainly a 1st and a top end prospect.

Hamhuis was on Team Canada at the last Olympics.

Coburn fetched a 1st, 3rd and Gudas (serviceable young 3rd pair dman)

Hamhuis should net a 1st +.
Vrbata might not given his playoff record. But certainly something like a 2 2nds or 2nd and 3rd.
Prust a 3rd
Weber a 3rd or 4th depending on production.
- storm88

It is kind of sad because I want these guys to play well enough to have value at tdl, but if we are still in the playoff race, JB may hesitate to move them.

If they are playing well enough and we are not in a playoff race, it may mean our youth is stumbling a bit.

I wonder if we could move Burrows to a team like Florida for picks or prospects too.

Couldn't trade Edler fast enough...total bust of a player. Get rid of him while the league still believes he has upside.

Olympic gold medal winning team canada defenseman....so arguably one of the best 8-10 defenseman in the country. For a second round pick at the deadline? Ummm shake you're head. I'd say two firsts are very possible. Certainly a 1st and a top end prospect.
- Bullfrog77

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here ...Hamhuis doesn't have the offensive game to be giving up multiple firsts for ....a first and a prospect is a great deal for Van

Defense is the premier position in professional hockey today...nobody feels they have enough of it, he'll most teams are barely able to dress more then 1-2 dependable players. Hamhuis is one of those players. On this team yes he isn't an offense first guy. But he plays his position perfectly. If the other four skaters on the ice could play with that kind of discipline then we would have something. Defense wins championships ...and someone will drop a fortune to acquire him. And that team won't give a dam if he gets no points with them.

Defense is the premier position in professional hockey today...nobody feels they have enough of it, he'll most teams are barely able to dress more then 1-2 dependable players. Hamhuis is one of those players. On this team yes he isn't an offense first guy. But he plays his position perfectly. If the other four skaters on the ice could play with that kind of discipline then we would have something. Defense wins championships ...and someone will drop a fortune to acquire him. And that team won't give a dam if he gets no points with them.
- Bullfrog77

Replace "defense" with "good-to-great goaltending" and "healthy, quick, puck moving D" and you'll be more right. Hamhuis isn't a any of that.

Olympic gold medal winning team canada defenseman....so arguably one of the best 8-10 defenseman in the country. For a second round pick at the deadline? Ummm shake you're head. I'd say two firsts are very possible. Certainly a 1st and a top end prospect.
- Bullfrog77

two 1sts for a UFA

Personally, I think the Canucks have gone about their rebuild wrong

In hindsight, rather than overachieving last year and getting bounced from the playoffs first round, wouldn't it have been better to:

Not sign Miller/Vrbata/etc, embrace the rebuild and be sellers at the deadline?

Miss the playoffs and end up with another Top 5 pick like last year with Virtanen?
(Imagine Strome/Hanafin/Marner as a Canuck today...)

Using assets (Draft Picks) acquired by being sellers at last years deadline to make a move like Calgary did in acquiring Dougie Hamilton...

Canucks are currently trending into Leaf territory, where bunch of mediocre seasons prevents them from building enough top tier talent through the draft to be real competitors for the cup in the next few years (think 3-5 seasons from now)

As much as it pains Canuck fans, if they had fully embraced a rebuild, they could receive a huge haul for the Sedins if they offered to trade them both to the same contender and keep 50% of each contract as well as taking back a bad contract or 2

Use those assets to acquire young guys like Hamilton/Saad/etc to build the next real cup contender
- TheGame316

This has nothing to do with the fans. Ownership insisted in this direction. Everyone else is along for the ride.

Yes two 1st's. What does being a ufa have to do with it? His no movement clause would be the hurdle. If the team that comes looking to grab hamhuis is going to want to resign him. They will agree to a contract extension before completing the deal.

Yes two 1st's. What does being a ufa have to do with it? His no movement clause would be the hurdle. If the team that comes looking to grab hamhuis is going to want to resign him. They will agree to a contract extension before completing the deal.
- Bullfrog77

You're right up there with Benning when it comes to negotiating.

For those of you who feel that Dallas won that trade outright, give your heads a shake.

First of all, Patrick Sharp - WAS a great player but he is now 33. The chances are he'll have a decent year next year but after that, who knows. He's been fairly injury prone due to his robust style and it can only get worse. So in effect, when you say Dallas got the best player, yes, perhaps, but how long will he be servicable? (and his contract of $6.5 is very unfriendly)

I don't know too much about the prospect, but that's what he is at this point in time. We have no idea how things are going to pan out. I'd take a quality player over a prospect every day of the week.

Daley is still a quality defenseman with a very good cap hit ($3.3 million - half of what Sharp makes). He had 16 - yes 16! goals which has to be near the top of the league. He can also play in all situations, skates well, makes a good first pass and is all around a decent defender.

Ryan Garbutt - basically Burrows 2.0. He plays a spirited game and also threw in some decent production (8 goals and 25 points in 67 games). He has a very good contract at $1.6 million and is still only 29. He is a shift disturber and puts the opposition on notice when he's out there.

So there you have it. Two quality players (even I was surprised that Daley scored 16 goals last year) for an aging and injury prone player (who has a significant cap hit) who is approaching his mid-thirties. And please note, just for disclaimer purposes, I'm a huge fan of Sharp (again, I think he'll have a decent year unless the injury bug hits again, but he's a stop gap at best.

The only x-factor in this whole deal is the prospect. But like I said earlier, I'lll take a proven quality player in favour of the usual 'potential' factor.

Funny...... You've really got a lot to add don't you. If below average defence man bring multiple picks and prospects , what makes you so sure a world and Olympic champion can't do bring the same sort of payday? Ottawa just got a first for a crap third string goalie for Christ sake! Oilers paid a fortune to get east coast league level play out of Schultz. Almost every year players of his caliber get picked up for a cup charge and I'm sure over the last twenty years their is plenty of comparable returns.

Yes two 1st's. What does being a ufa have to do with it? His no movement clause would be the hurdle. If the team that comes looking to grab hamhuis is going to want to resign him. They will agree to a contract extension before completing the deal.
- Bullfrog77

A player with years of contract left at decent hit are much more valuable than pending ufa. That usually nets peanuts. There is more value if the guy will resign to a decent number but still not as much as still under contract players.

Hamius is a great D and his gold medals will give great value. Not sure if hes a 1st or 2nd in reality. Age is getting up there.

Theres no way vrbatta given age etc gets a 1st. Its a 2nd, thats his value. Could be even lower, and lets face it given what we've seen from JB recently itd be more like 3rd or 4th.

I often am critical of some of the decisions that mgmt makes but I personally love that this group is honest and forthright in interviews etc.

Very refreshing come form Gillis's constant cow manure approach.

Whether it makes it harder on them to move players, I have no idea but it certainly makes the team more respectable imo.

For those of you who feel that Dallas won that trade outright, give your heads a shake.

First of all, Patrick Sharp - WAS a great player but he is now 33. The chances are he'll have a decent year next year but after that, who knows. He's been fairly injury prone due to his robust style and it can only get worse. So in effect, when you say Dallas got the best player, yes, perhaps, but how long will he be servicable? (and his contract of $6.5 is very unfriendly)

I don't know too much about the prospect, but that's what he is at this point in time. We have no idea how things are going to pan out. I'd take a quality player over a prospect every day of the week.

Daley is still a quality defenseman with a very good cap hit ($3.3 million - half of what Sharp makes). He had 16 - yes 16! goals which has to be near the top of the league. He can also play in all situations, skates well, makes a good first pass and is all around a decent defender.

Ryan Garbutt - basically Burrows 2.0. He plays a spirited game and also threw in some decent production (8 goals and 25 points in 67 games). He has a very good contract at $1.6 million and is still only 29. He is a shift disturber and puts the opposition on notice when he's out there.

So there you have it. Two quality players (even I was surprised that Daley scored 16 goals last year) for an aging and injury prone player (who has a significant cap hit) who is approaching his mid-thirties. And please note, just for disclaimer purposes, I'm a huge fan of Sharp (again, I think he'll have a decent year unless the injury bug hits again, but he's a stop gap at best.

The only x-factor in this whole deal is the prospect. But like I said earlier, I'lll take a proven quality player in favour of the usual 'potential' factor.
- Zogg

So you assume sharp has to decline for sure ...he was almost a point a game just last year ....there is just as good of a chance that he decline as he repeats that ...he is far and away the best player in that deal

Funny...... You've really got a lot to add don't you. If below average defence man bring multiple picks and prospects , what makes you so sure a world and Olympic champion can't do bring the same sort of payday? Ottawa just got a first for a crap third string goalie for Christ sake! Oilers paid a fortune to get east coast league level play out of Schultz. Almost every year players of his caliber get picked up for a cup charge and I'm sure over the last twenty years their is plenty of comparable returns.
- Bullfrog77

Lehner - It was more a favor between uncle and nephew and the fact that the goalie in question is 23 with a lot of upside and RFA for 4 more years.

Schultz - Was at the time, considered a can't miss prospect and had multiple suitors, and had used a loophole to become a UFA instead of being under the control of Anaheim.

No team with championship aspirations is looking to pick up a player with can't miss upside ! They are looking for known , dependable players that will mesh with their group and push them over the top. And as far as Lehner being a favour....just proves that there are still plenty of morons making decisions on team rosters in this league. Hamhuis easily brings this team a first and probably another high pick / prospect

Funny...... You've really got a lot to add don't you. If below average defence man bring multiple picks and prospects , what makes you so sure a world and Olympic champion can't do bring the same sort of payday? Ottawa just got a first for a crap third string goalie for Christ sake! Oilers paid a fortune to get east coast league level play out of Schultz. Almost every year players of his caliber get picked up for a cup charge and I'm sure over the last twenty years their is plenty of comparable returns.
- Bullfrog77

You lost me at 'Lehner is crap'

For those of you who feel that Dallas won that trade outright, give your heads a shake.

First of all, Patrick Sharp - WAS a great player but he is now 33. The chances are he'll have a decent year next year but after that, who knows. He's been fairly injury prone due to his robust style and it can only get worse. So in effect, when you say Dallas got the best player, yes, perhaps, but how long will he be servicable? (and his contract of $6.5 is very unfriendly)

I don't know too much about the prospect, but that's what he is at this point in time. We have no idea how things are going to pan out. I'd take a quality player over a prospect every day of the week.

Daley is still a quality defenseman with a very good cap hit ($3.3 million - half of what Sharp makes). He had 16 - yes 16! goals which has to be near the top of the league. He can also play in all situations, skates well, makes a good first pass and is all around a decent defender.

Ryan Garbutt - basically Burrows 2.0. He plays a spirited game and also threw in some decent production (8 goals and 25 points in 67 games). He has a very good contract at $1.6 million and is still only 29. He is a shift disturber and puts the opposition on notice when he's out there.

So there you have it. Two quality players (even I was surprised that Daley scored 16 goals last year) for an aging and injury prone player (who has a significant cap hit) who is approaching his mid-thirties. And please note, just for disclaimer purposes, I'm a huge fan of Sharp (again, I think he'll have a decent year unless the injury bug hits again, but he's a stop gap at best.

The only x-factor in this whole deal is the prospect. But like I said earlier, I'lll take a proven quality player in favour of the usual 'potential' factor.
- Zogg

Why waste so much time trying to change the opinions of other anonymous posters on a rumour site?

Hamhuis was on Team Canada at the last Olympics.

Coburn fetched a 1st, 3rd and Gudas (serviceable young 3rd pair dman)

Hamhuis should net a 1st +.
Vrbata might not given his playoff record. But certainly something like a 2 2nds or 2nd and 3rd.
Prust a 3rd
Weber a 3rd or 4th depending on production.
- storm88

Remember the packages that Luongo, Schneider, Kesler, Hodgson, Bieksa, etc should fetched?

Let's try to ease up on the expectations this time.

Someone had a great analogy about the housing market, which dictates the price of your house regardless of what you think if is worth. The only thing I would add is that a smart seller is able to give themselves enough time and flexibility to be able to take that house off the market if necessary and wait for the market to improve.

Obviously there are situations where it is essential to sell immediately because of financial situations, but to pigeonhole yourself into needing to sell within a set timeline in order to move forward is asking for trouble.

No team with championship aspirations is looking to pick up a player with can't miss upside ! They are looking for known , dependable players that will mesh with their group and push them over the top. And as far as Lehner being a favour....just proves that there are still plenty of morons making decisions on team rosters in this league. Hamhuis easily brings this team a first and probably another high pick / prospect
- Bullfrog77

No UFA at the TDL is going to get a first, not with the cap where it is and the likelihood that it probably drops this year due to the Canadian dollar being 75 cents to the US. Most teams will be looking to dump salary at the TDL regardless of being contenders or not.

Why waste so much time trying to change the opinions of other anonymous posters on a rumour site?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Why post at all, then? I'm not here to change anyone's mind, I'm here stating the facts about the trade that went down. It is a hockey site, no? and people are here expressing their opinions on all things hockey (and of course burger recipes )

No ufa at the deadline is gonna get a first? Is that what you say? What did the kings pay for sekera just 5 months ago....at the deadline? First and a prospect....and sekera walked away.....think before posting please