Bold the letters to let him know you're serious
- BlazinMike

You just did for me, thanks

So Hockeybuzz members start to lose it weeks after July 1st. Happened last year, is happening now, just with some different avi's. What was once a place of very good hockey discussion, well thought out posts and insightful information on the Chicago Blackhawks has again turned into a grammar school recess lot and pud pulling contest. Here is an idea boys. Insted of posting 20 useless posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of the site, try writing an inspired one that sparks a true, on topic conversation (not an asinine trade scenerio). This is not a shot at JJ , he is doing his job, just the constant bickering on the message board. That being said I'm going to pull my best SteveRain and shut er down for the season. Have a good summer and good luck in here. Too bad

So Hockeybuzz members start to lose it weeks after July 1st. Happened last year, is happening now, just with some different avi's. What was once a place of very good hockey discussion, well thought out posts and insightful information on the Chicago Blackhawks has again turned into a grammar school recess lot and pud pulling contest. Here is an idea boys. Insted of posting 20 useless posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of the site, try writing an inspired one that sparks a true, on topic conversation (not an asinine trade scenerio). This is not a shot at JJ , he is doing his job, just the constant bickering on the message board. That being said I'm going to pull my best SteveRain and shut er down for the season. Have a good summer and good luck in here. Too bad
- Cup-Bearer

taking the moral high ground. very noble of you. have a great summer!


also interesting to note that you have all of 16 months of being at HB but you know the landscape of the site completely. well done.

The world existed without an organized money system for all but the last 300 years. Now compare the wars, crime, violence and inequality in these last 300 years to the previous millennia! Our society now requires an investment north of a million dollars to simply run for the mayoral seat in any city of significant size. NO average citizen has the ability to risk losing that kind of money to simply SERVE THE PEOPLE as per the Constitution! Multinational Corporations possess this kind of money and thus finance BOTH sides of the political race so that their's is a "sure thing" and not a gamble at all. ALMOST ALL, not some, modern politicians run for office with the help of money with strings attached...that is not democracy at all and it is derived solely through an organized Banking and Monetary system!

The control of any country's wealth is LEGALLY only in the hands of the people, and those they elect to represent them. However, in the United States (and most of the world) a FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM (which is privately owned ultimately by the Rothschild family of "Europe") has illegally seized control of every nation's wealth and monetary system IN RETURN FOR A FEE! Every single US dollar printed by the Federal Reserve Bank comes with interest! This is the ultimate scam in human history, because to pay back $1 dollar of the Federal Reserve Money (which is all there is in the United States), you MUST BORROW a second dollar! Which of course means that any country who is controlled by this scam can NEVER pay back their debt, it simply grows with interest (which artificially creates INFLATION within the economy) until the country, state, county, city, etc are simply BANKRUPT and thus taken over by the Federal Reserve itself, like say the countries of Greece and Italy, or the State of California, or the cities of Detroit, Michigan or Stockton, California.

Crime exists BECAUSE of our illegal, inequitable monetary system!
- MexicoHawk

Many wars were also over religious beliefs. The Holy wars and crusades were not a good time period.

So Hockeybuzz members start to lose it weeks after July 1st. Happened last year, is happening now, just with some different avi's. What was once a place of very good hockey discussion, well thought out posts and insightful information on the Chicago Blackhawks has again turned into a grammar school recess lot and pud pulling contest. Here is an idea boys. Insted of posting 20 useless posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of the site, try writing an inspired one that sparks a true, on topic conversation (not an asinine trade scenerio). This is not a shot at JJ , he is doing his job, just the constant bickering on the message board. That being said I'm going to pull my best SteveRain and shut er down for the season. Have a good summer and good luck in here. Too bad
- Cup-Bearer

This place has been crappy ever since a ref was appointed to the hawks thread.

Do you know another, if so how about sharing his name as Mexico is pretty open about his
- Maggie

I would love to know such things! I'm glad Mexico has joined the discussion as he offers thorough analysis and opinion on hockey and other topics.


Question for the board. Do you think Stamkos is worth 10.7mil/year? That is a rumored AAV for his extension, making him the highest paid player in the NHL....

There isn't much risk in signing him or others like him. Especially when they trade picks around the deadline. When people get so mad about trading 2nd's for Kimmo (for instance)....there's plenty of second round picks that never amount to anything

So signing any of the college FA's or Euro's....is as much of a risk as drafting anyone.

I look at Leblanc (or TVR, Panarin, etc) as very low risk players, same as if they drafted someone. Sometimes it pays off...more times than not, it doesn't.

Good luck in Europe, Drew.
- PatShart

If you read my comment I said mistakes happen but....Paying LeBlanc or others like him a $1,150,000 or so to play two years in Rockford can't keep happening. They paid him like he was a can't miss NHL lock....Mistake.

How do you type with your paws around the trees?
- paulr

I'm not in a 24hr 365 day a year hug here...geez

I think maybe you're trying to make more out of it than what's there. It was just an off the cuff comment that came up in a radio interview. I'm sure when he called in to the show he didn't expect Brandon Saad's name to come up. The cap is there, and it's there for all teams, what should he care about the terms of one player's contract on another team in the other conference? To me it was just the guy speaking his mind....
- MartiniMan

I 100% agree but he and other owners alike probably want to ensure contracts stay lower instead of increasing every year.

keeping score of hockey games? if so, legal topic. if not, out of bounds.
- flyershockey

Really? u want in this convo too?

Bold the letters to let him know you're serious
- BlazinMike

wow, you seem serious!!!

This place has been crappy ever since a ref was appointed to the hawks thread.
- BlazinMike

Mike

The board was doing just fine till Tr--ls( cant use the word per Eli) FlyersHockey and Nurk decided to take over. I know that many complaints have been sent to the referee who is monitoring, it's Capt ? about these two guys. hopefully soon they will be history

So Hockeybuzz members start to lose it weeks after July 1st. Happened last year, is happening now, just with some different avi's. What was once a place of very good hockey discussion, well thought out posts and insightful information on the Chicago Blackhawks has again turned into a grammar school recess lot and pud pulling contest. Here is an idea boys. Insted of posting 20 useless posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of the site, try writing an inspired one that sparks a true, on topic conversation (not an asinine trade scenerio). This is not a shot at JJ , he is doing his job, just the constant bickering on the message board. That being said I'm going to pull my best SteveRain and shut er down for the season. Have a good summer and good luck in here. Too bad
- Cup-Bearer

Can someone summarize what he said here, after the first couple of sentences I zoned out.

This place has been crappy ever since a ref was appointed to the hawks thread.
- BlazinMike

Mike

The board was doing just fine till Tr--ls( cant use the word per Eli) FlyersHockey and Nurk decided to take over. I know that many complaints have been sent to the referee who is monitoring, it's Capt ? about these two guys. hopefully soon they will be history
- Maggie

what hockey related topic would you like to discuss?

Mike

The board was doing just fine till Tr--ls( cant use the word per Eli) FlyersHockey and Nurk decided to take over. I know that many complaints have been sent to the referee who is monitoring, it's Capt ? about these two guys. hopefully soon they will be history
- Maggie

The current monitoring Ref is CaptEO

If you read my comment I said mistakes happen but....Paying LeBlanc or others like him a $1,150,000 or so to play two years in Rockford can't keep happening. They paid him like he was a can't miss NHL lock....Mistake.
- Al

I don't agree. Money isn't important to this team. They're making enough through merchandising and TV and championships that a million bucks here or there isn't going to make a huge difference to the bottom line (no matter how they cook the books).

But what it does do, is it attracts guys like Kyle Baun, or Trevor Van Riemsdyk, guys who may turn out to be real players. Not every move you make is gonna be a home run, but every guy that sees you sign guys and give them a real shot (which LeBlahhhh did, and simply came up short), gives you credibility and desirability in the college free agent market, and even worldwide for that matter.

Can someone summarize what he said here, after the first couple of sentences I zoned out.
- nurk

Guess you couldn't comprehend the post?
Would u like me to reread it to you? Im free after 5pm...

It's difficult to keep all the variables and possibilities in my head, so here is the present situation written out.

The Hawks are $1.2M over the cap with 14 forwards, 4 d-men and 2 goalies. If we drop Morin and Tropp from the forwards and add TvR and Johns to the d-men, they will be about $1.5M over the cap. Realistically, the Hawks need a 13th forward and 7th d-man so let's promote Panarin ($800K) and Gustafsson ($670K) which puts the Hawks about $3M over the cap.

So, theoretically the Hawks can take back about $3M in the Sharp trade and have a full cap compliant roster. However, they won't re-sign Oduya or Kruger and they'll have only 3 NHL veteran d-men unless the guy acquired in the Sharp trade is a vet d-man.

Will the Hawks be a legitimate contender with only 2/4/7 and a bunch of rookies and Rundblad? I don't think so.

So, here's an alternative train of thought. Stan should find out if he doesn't already know what it will take to re-sign Seabrook. If Seabrook agrees to take $6M or less, then re-sign him, but if he demands more than $6M, then re-signing him puts the Hawks right back in cap hell next summer and in that case maybe the best long term move is to trade him now and get out of cap hell now and next summer.

Guess you couldn't comprehend the post?
Would u like me to reread it to you? Im free after 5pm...
- Ur Not Me

No, it was a poor attempt at humor...I failed. I am forever sorry.

I don't agree. Money isn't important to this team. They're making enough through merchandising and TV and championships that a million bucks here or there isn't going to make a huge difference to the bottom line (no matter how they cook the books).

But what it does do, is it attracts guys like Kyle Baun, or Trevor Van Riemsdyk, guys who may turn out to be real players. Not every move you make is gonna be a home run, but every guy that sees you sign guys and give them a real shot (which LeBlahhhh did, and simply came up short), gives you credibility and desirability in the college free agent market, and even worldwide for that matter.
- Sandus

i agree its money well spent, gives other NCAA free agents something to consider when looking were to sign. and really that is chump change to rocky

If he goes to #5 let me know and I'll email him......
- SteveRain

LMAO Steve. He didn't want any numbers below 20.

His hockey numbers have been 19 (my choice), then 21 for a long time, 29 last year, and has to change his number this year because he made a team with a #29 goalie (we're in Pittsburgh so you can see why) who has seniority in the club over him. So he went to 26, no reason, no player he likes wears it, he's just weird that way.

The current monitoring Ref is CaptEO
- Maggie

Interesting that you know that, not sure why it is relevant tho. We're all just talking hockey.

It's difficult to keep all the variables and possibilities in my head, so here is the present situation written out.

The Hawks are $1.2M over the cap with 14 forwards, 4 d-men and 2 goalies. If we drop Morin and Tropp from the forwards and add TvR and Johns to the d-men, they will be about $1.5M over the cap. Realistically, the Hawks need a 13th forward and 7th d-man so let's promote Panarin ($800K) and Gustafsson ($670K) which puts the Hawks about $3M over the cap.

So, theoretically the Hawks can take back about $3M in the Sharp trade and have a full cap compliant roster. However, they won't re-sign Oduya or Kruger and they'll have only 3 NHL veteran d-men unless the guy acquired in the Sharp trade is a vet d-man.

Will the Hawks be a legitimate contender with only 2/4/7 and a bunch of rookies and Rundblad? I don't think so.

So, here's an alternative train of thought. Stan should find out if he doesn't already know what it will take to re-sign Seabrook. If Seabrook agrees to take $6M or less, then re-sign him, but if he demands more than $6M, then re-signing him puts the Hawks right back in cap hell next summer and in that case maybe the best long term move is to trade him now and get out of cap hell now and next summer.
- EbonyRaptor

Sounds about right ER... Seabs or Crow... one will not be here in 16-17 in all likelihood...

I don't agree. Money isn't important to this team. They're making enough through merchandising and TV and championships that a million bucks here or there isn't going to make a huge difference to the bottom line (no matter how they cook the books).

But what it does do, is it attracts guys like Kyle Baun, or Trevor Van Riemsdyk, guys who may turn out to be real players. Not every move you make is gonna be a home run, but every guy that sees you sign guys and give them a real shot (which LeBlahhhh did, and simply came up short), gives you credibility and desirability in the college free agent market, and even worldwide for that matter.
- Sandus

No one pays AHL players $575,000 to play in the AHL per year on a 2 yr deal, if it happens it is a mistake....Not the recipe in the NHL no matter if it is the Maple Leafs or the Panthers....Or the Blackhawks.

Kyle Baun will earn $70,000 playing in Rockford. That's the way business is done in the NHL. Young AHL players are getting paid to go to school...and they seldom make over $90,000 per year.