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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 8 @ 7:33 PM ET
I hear you and hope that they are both traded for a good return, but I certainly don't expect it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hamhuis is resigned, like it or not this team has very little coming down the pipeline in terms of defense. Hamhuis if healthy would garner a great return at the TDL.....but I thought that many former Canucks should of gotten a better haul so until it happens I will assume it will be underwhelming.

- belcherbd


This seems realistic, definitely would be better at the TDL.

So far I'm a bit underwhelmed with some of the stuff JB is saying in the media.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jul 8 @ 7:37 PM ET
You mean they weren't the guys who took him to the Roxy?
- bazz

Who wouldn't want these guys as mentors?
https://youtu.be/Z6tBr6PMkBY
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 7:38 PM ET
He can go
- manvanfan


Something back would be nice. Too much of the addition by subtraction stuff can leave too many holes. He has some value even if it is just to sweeten another potential deal.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 8 @ 7:40 PM ET
When else is he going to sign them?
- pker2theend


Benning means before July 1st(re-siging and signing(ufa) are different). He mentioned talking to their agents.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 8 @ 7:40 PM ET
I wonder if JB has spoken to their agents? Could these guys do what Bieksa did - talk extension with the new club before waiving to go there? Complicate any plan JB may have?

If they won't be back, I want picks. Just want it handled properly.



When is JB going to trade Jensen for a pick?

- hillbillydeluxe


See above.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 8 @ 7:41 PM ET
I think mgmt has a plan.
If the plan was to resign one or both of Hammer/Vrbata, i think that would have been done by now.
I think this suggests that both won't be resigned.
My point was that i hope they are convinced to accept trades (due to No trade clauses) and we get a good return. The alt being they walk or have their rights traded for peanuts.

- dbot


I read the interview. Try it.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 8 @ 7:42 PM ET
I read the interview. Try it.
- boonerbuck



link?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 8 @ 7:43 PM ET
link?
- dbot


Could you possibly be lazier than Sopel?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 8 @ 7:45 PM ET
Could you possibly be lazier than Sopel?

- boonerbuck




boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 8 @ 7:47 PM ET

- dbot


“We’ve touched base with their agents a little, but we’ll see how it plays out.”
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 8 @ 7:49 PM ET
I hear you and hope that they are both traded for a good return, but I certainly don't expect it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hamhuis is resigned, like it or not this team has very little coming down the pipeline in terms of defense. Hamhuis if healthy would garner a great return at the TDL.....but I thought that many former Canucks should of gotten a better haul so until it happens I will assume it will be underwhelming.

- belcherbd



Who else have we had on expiring contracts that have the skill/quality of Hammer/Vrbata??

especially keeping in mind the likely position the team will be in come TDL time?

I can't think of anyone else? But could be wrong. Naslund??

i'm just saying that it seems like the first time in a long time that we have quality assets that we could likely be in a position to acquire some draft picks
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 7:50 PM ET
“We’ve touched base with their agents a little, but we’ll see how it plays out.”
- boonerbuck


So it's written in stone?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 8 @ 7:52 PM ET
“We’ve touched base with their agents a little, but we’ll see how it plays out.”
- boonerbuck



That's the part of the interview you suggested i read? I thought there was more.
I saw that part and it lead me to the conclusion that they won't be resigned.
Could that lil chat not also be to gauge their interest in waiving NTC should the team be out of playoff position?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 7:53 PM ET
Who else have we had on expiring contracts that have the skill/quality of Hammer/Vrbata??

especially keeping in mind the likely position the team will be in come TDL time?

I can't think of anyone else? But could be wrong. Naslund??

- dbot


iirc, Jovanoski just walked after his expired.

Can't remember what happened to Ohlund, if he was hurt or just walked at the time. I think Salo just walked.

We haven't had a lot of skill leave because we held onto the core... and never had much to begin with.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 8 @ 7:58 PM ET
iirc, Jovanoski just walked after his expired.

Can't remember what happened to Ohlund, if he was hurt or just walked at the time. I think Salo just walked.

We haven't had a lot of skill leave because we held onto the core... and never had much to begin with.

- hillbillydeluxe


Right. Cheers.
Jovo was 2006. Long time ago
Ohlund and Salo were banged up and had tones of mileage on them.

so, it's been awhile since we've had some quality players to offload.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jul 8 @ 7:58 PM ET
The kid is only 18... never hear of them making contributions at the ripe old age of 18

Same as Sam Bennett?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 8 @ 8:00 PM ET
Could you possibly be lazier than Sopel?

- boonerbuck

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 8:03 PM ET
Right. Cheers.
Jovo was 2006. Long time ago
Ohlund and Salo were banged up and had tones of mileage on them.

so, it's been awhile since we've had some quality players to offload.

- dbot


Hope we can get some picks.

(half empty) JB better not screw this up!

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 8:04 PM ET
Same as Sam Bennett?
- docmorgan


Did you get that recipe?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 8 @ 8:06 PM ET
So it's written in stone?
- hillbillydeluxe


He asked if hey had spoken to the agents... I know it's hard to follow a multi post thread... I'm trying my best to walk you kids through it but you keep walking into walls while you text and take selfies. Try and pay attention.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 8 @ 8:14 PM ET
He asked if hey had spoken to the agents... I know it's hard to follow a multi post thread... I'm trying my best to walk you kids through it but you keep walking into walls while you text and take selfies. Try and pay attention.

- boonerbuck


I had just said in an earlier post JB just says whatever to smooth stuff over.

'we’ll see how it plays out' is akin to - we have a plan, feck off if you think I'm going to tell you what it is. Watch and wait.

If the media doesn't think you are a cup contender in July, no need to give them fodder to pick apart.

I am hoping for more change, but I think we are at least headed in the right direction.


I should say, I have a smart phone or windows phone, but don't have a data plan. Just use it mostly as a phone, a little as a camera, to play crib if I am waiting somewhere or bored and to surf the web- wifi while bbqing.

Wifey has the data plan. and addiction to facebook, and she can have it.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jul 8 @ 8:32 PM ET
If the Sedins get replaced as the 1st line they will become untradable. You are aware we are going for a rebuild?
- A_SteamingLombardi


How come you cant trade a player that doesnt play on the first line? Maybe in a couple years they wouldnt bring back as much in the trade but to say two former mvps wouldnt get anything is just stupid.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 8 @ 8:34 PM ET
How come you cant trade a player that doesnt play on the first line? Maybe in a couple years they wouldnt bring back as much in the trade but to say two former mvps wouldnt get anything is just stupid.
- mauryballstein

you forgot the part about 14 million dollars
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jul 8 @ 8:34 PM ET
I'm not sure how second line means they aren't mentoring? Dorsett was credited for helping Horvat and Kenins and he was a 4th liner. Mentoring would be all off-ice behavior, if Virtanen looks across the room at 35 year old Daniel Sedin and how hard he works to be a 2nd line winger in the NHL, JV knows whats expected of him. The alternative is someone from the room not being able to step in to tell the young guys to take it easy going to the bar after every game
- WhiteLie


This exactly. The kid would have to seriously stupid not respect a former MVP. I hope we trade them but if they want to stay im fine with that. They have been probably the 2 most dominant players in frachise history they have the right do what they want.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jul 8 @ 8:35 PM ET
you forgot the part about 14 million dollars
- A_SteamingLombardi


Who cares? On a rebuilding team your cap will be much lower than a team going for it.

I misunderstood, do you mean cus they will be making 7 mill each on the 2nd line? We can pick up 50 % salary if need be. Now is the time to retain salary and take on toxic contracts if it will get us better prospects or higher picks.

Good way to speed up the rebuild.
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