I think the position we are in will dictate what will happen. If we are clearly in 2nd in our division (which is unlikely) he may do something. Any other scenarios we are sellers guaranteed.
- thundachunk

I hope we are definitely sellers if we are not in the playoffs at tdl.

Right now, pending ufa`s at next season`s tdl are:

Vrbata
Weber
Bartkowski
Hamhuis

Anyone think Hamhuis will extend here for 2 or 3 years with another ntc?

I am happy with Briesbros, Benning has made it clear that he wants good character players. Those are the kind of guys that will work hard for each other and dont have attitude concerns. I read the other day that Demko paid his way to spend the week at camp, even though he cannot play, because he is committed to the franchise and wants to further grow his relationships with other young prospects. That kind of attitude in a player makes me feel really good about the quality of individuals this team is bringing in
- WhiteLie

Agree 100%. Great post.

watch him score 25 and the leafs turn him into a first rounder
- Redmile247

Well it's Toronto so he wont have to back check so he might get 25.

I guess it's up to person opinion if JB has a pass or fail on his trades since the end of the season. Season ticket sales will determine his grade. I'll venture to guess they are not too brisk right now.

I hope we are definitely sellers if we are not in the playoffs at tdl.

Right now, pending ufa`s at next season`s tdl are:

Vrbata
Weber
Bartkowski
Hamhuis

Anyone think Hamhuis will extend here for 2 or 3 years with another ntc?
- hillbillydeluxe

Don't Forget Prust

I hope we are definitely sellers if we are not in the playoffs at tdl.

Right now, pending ufa`s at next season`s tdl are:

Vrbata
Weber
Bartkowski
Hamhuis

Anyone think Hamhuis will extend here for 2 or 3 years with another ntc?
- hillbillydeluxe

I do. After his trade.

I see him potentially getting a 2nd when Toronto trades him.

He did have 3 empty net goals last year, so to me he had 15 goals.
- classic321

I don't see him getting many chances for those this year

Spot on. Vantel always needs something to critisize
- vancity787

Jezus what a bunch. If you don't sit and join hands in this group and sing Kumbaya ,
everyone jumps all over you.

I said I hope he learned that if you are not extending then move the players for picks.

if anyone should know about playoff woes it should be a Canuck fan.

I WILL POINT OUT 3WINS in 4 YEARS .

Enjoy your group hug .

Don't Forget Prust
- classic321

and Edler and Higgins and Burrows, move them all. The kids are more interesting.

Don't Forget Prust
- classic321

True dat.

Jezus what a bunch. If you don't sit and join hands in this group and sing Kumbaya ,
everyone jumps all over you.

I said I hope he learned that if you are not extending then move the players for picks.

if anyone should know about playoff woes it should be a Canuck fan.

I WILL POINT OUT 3WINS in 4 YEARS .

Enjoy your group hug .
- VANTEL

I'm not part of that group.

Here we go again.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Benning didn't trade Matthias at the deadline for a 1st!! The sky is falling! Poor asset management! The sky is falling!
- Marwood

I wouldn't say that is what Vantel is saying. He is just saying that decisions not made at the deadline hurt at the draft. Everyone is going to do something different. I agree with Vantel in the sense that he should have been moved for a pick at the deadline but the circumstances would have to be different for me to choose that outcome. Anyone who thinks Mathias and Richards were going to be apart of our long term plans is fooling themselves. I think Vantel would knew this and thought regardless of how well the team was doing they should be moved because they are not long term assets. Hence his opinion of poor asset management.

Sorry Vantel I'm not trying to speak for you. Correct me If I'm wrong.

Jezus what a bunch. If you don't sit and join hands in this group and sing Kumbaya ,
everyone jumps all over you.

I said I hope he learned that if you are not extending then move the players for picks.

if anyone should know about playoff woes it should be a Canuck fan.

I WILL POINT OUT 3WINS in 4 YEARS .

Enjoy your group hug .
- VANTEL

Jesus, I forgot it was that Bad.

and Edler and Higgins and Burrows, move them all. The kids are more interesting.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yep, move all three of them, I'm okay with that.

I wouldn't say that is what Vantel is saying. He is just saying that decisions not made at the deadline hurt at the draft. Everyone is going to do something different. I agree with Vantel in the sense that he should have been moved for a pick at the deadline but the circumstances would have to be different for me to choose that outcome. Anyone who thinks Mathias and Richards were going to be apart of our long term plans is fooling themselves. I think Vantel would knew this and thought regardless of how well the team was doing they should be moved because they are not long term assets. Hence his opinion of poor asset management.

Sorry Vantel I'm not trying to speak for you. Correct me If I'm wrong.
- thundachunk

It is what I was saying . Thanks

Jezus what a bunch. If you don't sit and join hands in this group and sing Kumbaya ,
everyone jumps all over you.

I said I hope he learned that if you are not extending then move the players for picks.

if anyone should know about playoff woes it should be a Canuck fan.

I WILL POINT OUT 3WINS in 4 YEARS .

Enjoy your group hug .
- VANTEL

If you cant complain about the Canucks complain about the Canuck thread. You need a summer hobby.

I guess it's up to person opinion if JB has a pass or fail on his trades since the end of the season. Season ticket sales will determine his grade. I'll venture to guess they are not too brisk right now.
- VanHockeyGuy

Perspective... keep it all in perspective. I could see a situation where the GM does well with the early parts of his plan and still the season ticket holders start dropping for a couple of seasons. If the moves are for the future, the fans will wait to spend their money. This does not mean that he is failing.

Jesus, I forgot it was that Bad.


- classic321

2/3rds of that under the new regime.

Jesus, I forgot it was that Bad.


- classic321

And yet, Edmonton, Calgary, Arizona, Colorado, Dallas, Minnesota have but 2 series wins in that same span and multiple missing the playoffs.

I wouldn't say that is what Vantel is saying. He is just saying that decisions not made at the deadline hurt at the draft. Everyone is going to do something different. I agree with Vantel in the sense that he should have been moved for a pick at the deadline but the circumstances would have to be different for me to choose that outcome. Anyone who thinks Mathias and Richards were going to be apart of our long term plans is fooling themselves. I think Vantel would knew this and thought regardless of how well the team was doing they should be moved because they are not long term assets. Hence his opinion of poor asset management.

Sorry Vantel I'm not trying to speak for you. Correct me If I'm wrong.
- thundachunk

Couldn't trade Richardson because he was hurt and you are assuming that they didn't try to trade Matthius, if there was any interest in Matthius he would not have taken a week to sign and would have gotten more than 1 yr.

If you cant complain about the Canucks complain about the Canuck thread. You need a summer hobby.
- A_SteamingLombardi

You're right .

Enjoy laughing at the Leafs not winning since 67 while you have the same amount of cups

I am going to enjoy my summer Later

Canadian $ dropped another penny at noon trading

Jezus what a bunch. If you don't sit and join hands in this group and sing Kumbaya ,
everyone jumps all over you.

I said I hope he learned that if you are not extending then move the players for picks.

if anyone should know about playoff woes it should be a Canuck fan.

I WILL POINT OUT 3WINS in 4 YEARS .

Enjoy your group hug .
- VANTEL

If we moved Mathias at the TDL, you would be upset that we gave away a big bodied goal scorer for a pick and then lost to Calgary after being pushed around. Then the lesson would have been... trading away big bodied goal scorers going into the playoffs.

So basically Shanihan, who will have 11 draft picks next year , gotten rid of his GM and overpriced players being moved. They also picked up a first round pick this year .
- VANTEL

We didn't have a volatile and divided locker room that was scrutinized by the media and arguably the largest hockey fan base in the league. They have been in a losing environment for years. We haven't. Also Shanahan kept Nonuts a gave the team an opportunity to prove themselves also. They never even came close to showing they were a decent team before the deadline.

If we moved Mathias at the TDL, you would be upset that we gave away a big bodied goal scorer for a pick and then lost to Calgary after being pushed around. Then the lesson would have been... trading away big bodied goal scorers going into the playoffs.

- boonerbuck

We were pushed around with him in the line up. He doesn't use his body. He's Rick Nash but can't score.