hmmmm really i seem to recall someone coming out of that league that just recently won the conn smyth trophey
- SaskHawkFan

Duncan Keith... I thnk Carey Price played in that league too....I get it but how many kids are able to get rides to a vg school like Vermont from the BCHL?

I didn't think the BCHL was a conduit to big time college programs.

an lets not forget #2
- SaskHawkFan

There is actually a long list which includes Duncan Keith, Ryan Johansen, Mark Recchi and Paul Kariya and many more.

Not sure how it works but a kid can play in the BCHL and still be eligible for an NCAA scholarship. If the kid goes major junior he cant go to NCAA. I think Kyle Turris played all of his junior hockey in the BCHL.

Duncan Keith...I get it but how many kids are able to get rides to a vg school like Vermont from the BCHL?

I didn't think the BCHL was a conduit to big time college programs.
- Al

should do some research then, lots of kids play Jr A in canada and then go to NCAA schools, its always been a alternative path then Major Jr. ive seen many a pro go thru sask to get to the nhl.

There is actually a long list which includes Duncan Keith, Ryan Johansen, Mark Recchi and Paul Kariya and many more.

Not sure how it works but a kid can play in the BCHL and still be eligible for an NCAA scholarship. If the kid goes major junior he cant go to NCAA. I think Kyle Turris played all of his junior hockey in the BCHL.
- RickJ

that is correct, kids that play Major jr are not eliagble for NCAA, thus the JR A route.

For sure - although we saw the pens take in 6.75 in kessel
- MTL1

We sure did and I do think the Hawks will have to throw a prospect in or eat some salary to make this work unfortunately the cost of doing business in the NHL when you're up against the cap.

Good luck on landing Sharp and your Habs

that is correct, kids that play Major jr are not eliagble for collage, thus the JR A route.
- SaskHawkFan

So what's the difference - Major Junior pays the kids a crappy $60/week and the NCAA views them as pros and ineligible and Jr. A pays them 0$ so they are eligible?

BCHL is not major junior but it has produced players who have turned out to be significant NHL'ers - Jamie Benn and Kyle Turris are 2 of them.
- RickJ

Keith, Ladd and Lucic also spent time in the BCHL.

So what's the difference - Major Junior pays the kids a crappy $60/week and the NCAA views them as pros and ineligible and Jr. A pays them 0$ so they are eligible?
- RickJ

not really sure why the difference in rules they are what they are.

pretty impressive list of jr a Pros

John Van Boxmeer, Al MacAdam, Ken Houston, Cam Botting, Brent Sutter, Troy Murray, James Patrick, Chris Chelios, Dave Ellett, Ray Ferraro, Tony Hrkac, Brett Hull, Tom Tilley, Danton Cole, Neil Wilkinson, Russ Parent, Mike Eastwood, Garry Valk, Rod Brind'Amour, Dixon Ward, Jason Marshall, Kent Manderville, Greg Johnson, Anson Carter, Ryan Johnson, Bates Battaglia, Danius Zubrus, Travis Zajac, Andrew Cogliano, and Kyle Turris

Duncan Keith... I thnk Carey Price played in that league too....I get it but how many kids are able to get rides to a vg school like Vermont from the BCHL?

I didn't think the BCHL was a conduit to big time college programs.
- Al

Well, Liam Coughlin is from Boston and likely has many contacts in the NE...guess he wanted to attend BC or BU, so perhaps that was his "in" to a scholarship at Vermont.

should do some research then, lots of kids play Jr A in canada and then go to NCAA schools, its always been a alternative path then Major Jr. ive seen many a pro go thru sask to get to the nhl.
- SaskHawkFan

There's some great hockey played in the BCHL, I catch several Coquitlam Express games each season.

the one team that really stands out is the 87-88 nortre dame hounds. Rod Brind’Amour and Curtis Joseph were unreal to watch

Keith, Ladd and Lucic also spent time in the BCHL.
- DarthKane

Actually there is a very long list of NHL'ers over the years.

well the real highlight was watching Chris Chelios as a kid playing JR now that was special

Actually there is a very long list of NHL'ers over the years.
- RickJ

That's right, hopefully the list keeps getting longer too.

We sure did and I do think the Hawks will have to throw a prospect in or eat some salary to make this work unfortunately the cost of doing business in the NHL when you're up against the cap.

Good luck on landing Sharp and your Habs
- BetweenTheDots

As a fan of hockey - this situation the hawks are in is quite intriguing
I hope the next few deals for the hawks get put to bed soon and that the deals are fair for the hawks

I'm surprised that versteeg has yet to be moved for a pick at a reasonable 2.2 cap hit after watching Matthias and Hayes get 2.3M deals

There is actually a long list which includes Duncan Keith, Ryan Johansen, Mark Recchi and Paul Kariya and many more.

Not sure how it works but a kid can play in the BCHL and still be eligible for an NCAA scholarship. If the kid goes major junior he cant go to NCAA. I think Kyle Turris played all of his junior hockey in the BCHL.
- RickJ

My point was I didn't think many players go from the BCHL to a major college program like Vermont and to the NHL. Keith and Kariya followed that path from the BCHL to a major college program, Turris too for 1 yr....but Carey Price, Rechi and Johanssen they didn't go to college.

My comment was specifically about going from the BCHL to a major college program and then the NHL which I still don't think is a common path.

That's right, hopefully the list keeps getting longer too.
- DarthKane

BCHL is probably preferable for a lot of kids instead of playing in the Western Hockey League and taking those crazy long bus rides across the prairies all winter and trying to get thru high school same time.

Actually there is a very long list of NHL'ers over the years.
- RickJ

Recchi was the player someone was saying Dano reminds him of...

John Jaeckel: The Waiting Is The Hardest Part
- John Jaeckel

Hawks should try to move Bickel and Anisimov (still don't know why they traded for him) for nothing. I'm sure there are a few teams willing to take a chance on those guys. That would free up over 7 millions and that leaves plenty of room to resign Oduya and Kruger as well as some wiggle room to bring up the young guys as replacements.

My point was I didn't think many players go from the BCHL to a major college program like Vermont and to the NHL. Keith and Kariya followed that path from the BCHL to a major college program, Turris too for 1 yr....but Carey Price, Rechi and Johanssen they didn't go to college.

My comment was specifically about going from the BCHL to a major college program and then the NHL which I still don't think is a common path.
- Al

Actually I just looked it up on the BCHL website and they state that there are 257 graduates of the league playing NCAA Division 1 - all over the place. Surprised me. When it comes time to turn pro though, I figure about 5 might get a sniff in the NHL eventually.

Hawks should try to move Bickel and Anisimov (still don't know why they traded for him) for nothing. I'm sure there are a few teams willing to take a chance on those guys. That would free up over 7 millions and that leaves plenty of room to resign Oduya and Kruger as well as some wiggle room to bring up the young guys as replacements.
- belgrave

Cap space would be nice, but id rather the hawks remained as competitive as possible until 19/88 are retired. As long as those two are here the hawks should be doing everything they can to win championships every year.

Actually I just looked it up on the BCHL website and they state that there are 257 graduates of the league playing NCAA Division 1 - all over the place. Surprised me. When it comes time to turn pro though, I figure about 5 might get a sniff in the NHL eventually.
- RickJ

Probably more going to college than ever...I know there haven't been many in the past that get to the NHL that route but some good ones started there, like the few I mentioned, and did get to the NHL without going to college.

Still a very good accomplishment for a young kid to get a scholarship to program like Vermont.

Recchi was the player someone was saying Dano reminds him of...
- Al

That's a compliment to him but Marko Dano better get going pretty soon because Recchi played approx 1850 regular season and playoff games in the NHL. That's more than Gretzky and pretty close to Messier numbers.

Hawks should try to move Bickel and Anisimov (still don't know why they traded for him) for nothing. I'm sure there are a few teams willing to take a chance on those guys. That would free up over 7 millions and that leaves plenty of room to resign Oduya and Kruger as well as some wiggle room to bring up the young guys as replacements.
- belgrave

Or they can just trade Sharp and Bickell which probably is easier to do than Anisimov a new longer deal.