I would do that.
- thundachunk

That little pic of Miller reminds me of the Anonymous or V for Vendetta mask. I guess I should say Guy Fawkes.

So Shink + Bonino for Galchenyuk?

That little pic of Miller reminds me of the Anonymous or V for Vendetta mask. I guess I should say Guy Fawkes.

So Shink + Bonino for Galchenyuk?
- hillbillydeluxe

Then we would still have to get him signed.

Then we would still have to get him signed.
- thundachunk

JB would talk to his agent before pulling the trigger. Guessing Treliving spoke with Hamilton's before that trade. same sort of thing.

Does an opposing team need permission from current team to speak with RFA's agent?

Does an opposing team need permission from to speak with RFA's agent?
- thundachunk

I would think so. But would guess there might be some communication off the books.

Guessing if the communication was allowed, there might be more offer sheets.

I think trading Shinkarak would be a big mistake. He is on a slower development curve for sure. But by the time he's 23-24 he will be back to elite level scoring. Three full seasons in the ahl , allow him time to grow , get stronger and learn to play pro hockey and he will reward the faithful with some fantastic scoring. Preaching the patience here....this guy will pan out. Especially when he's insulated with all these big hulking wingers we've been drafting !

I think trading Shinkarak would be a big mistake. He is on a slower development curve for sure. But by the time he's 23-24 he will be back to elite level scoring. Three full seasons in the ahl , allow him time to grow , get stronger and learn to play pro hockey and he will reward the faithful with some fantastic scoring. Preaching the patience here....this guy will pan out. Especially when he's insulated with all these big hulking wingers we've been drafting !
- Bullfrog77

If Galchenyuk is still projected to be a 1st or 2nd line centre, I think you have to make that deal.

Galchenyuk over three seasons, 193gp with 42 goals and 104pts, 80gp last season, generating 20g -46pts.

I am not sure what we can expect from Shink, if or when he gets going.

I do like Shink, but think it is easier to find a top 6 winger than a top 6 centre.

I cant see VEy outscoring Sven if they both have regular rolls on this team.
- vancity787

I think Sven will either get around 20 or like 3 ...he is boom or bust ...he doesn't do enough things besides scoring to keep him in the lineup so if he isn't scoring then he won't be playing much, but I could definitely see a scenario where he puts up more then most predict

I would be shocked if Vey plays center this season. The west is loaded with physically strong centers who will overpower Vey. His best assets are his creativity and ability to create plays offensively. He has not found his game at the NHL level yet, but he has had success playing in the WHL and AHL.

He is still just 23 and has less than 100 NHL games under his belt. I expect that the coaching staff will give him powerplay time in an effort to kick start his offence. Placing him at center would be a major defensive liability and would likely stall his development. As we sit now, the Canucks have three very capable NHL centers who will round out the top 3 lines ( Sedin, Bonino, Horvat). Placing Vey at center would put him in 3rd or 4th line situations. No coaching staff in the entire league could justify using an offensive-minded winger as a 3rd line center.

I expect Willie Desjardins to test out Vey and Baertschi on lines 2 and 3 to see if they can find chemistry with the likes of Bonino or Horvat. Unfortunately, I do not see both of them getting into significant roles this season. I would expect to see Baertschi play most of the season with Utica as Vey has more NHL experience and has worked with the Canucks coaching staff one year longer than Baertschi

If Galchenyuk is still projected to be a 1st or 2nd line centre, I think you have to make that deal.
- hillbillydeluxe

I honestly don't see the Habs trading him for a small forward ...if JV was involved in the deal then you could see something worked out

I would be shocked if Vey plays center this season. The west is loaded with physically strong centers who will overpower Vey. His best assets are his creativity and ability to create plays offensively. He has not found his game at the NHL level yet, but he has had success playing in the WHL and AHL.

He is still just 23 and has less than 100 NHL games under his belt. I expect that the coaching staff will give him powerplay time in an effort to kick start his offence. Placing him at center would be a major defensive liability and would likely stall his development. As we sit now, the Canucks have three very capable NHL centers who will round out the top 3 lines ( Sedin, Bonino, Horvat). Placing Vey at center would put him in 3rd or 4th line situations. No coaching staff in the entire league could justify using an offensive-minded winger as a 3rd line center.

I expect Willie Desjardins to test out Vey and Baertschi on lines 2 and 3 to see if they can find chemistry with the likes of Bonino or Horvat. Unfortunately, I do not see both of them getting into significant roles this season. I would expect to see Baertschi play most of the season with Utica as Vey has more NHL experience and has worked with the Canucks coaching staff one year longer than Baertschi
- MikeO37

0 chance Sven plays a game in Utica

I think Sven will either get around 20 or like 3 ...he is boom or bust ...he doesn't do enough things besides scoring to keep him in the lineup so if he isn't scoring then he won't be playing much, but I could definitely see a scenario where he puts up more then most predict
- Redmile247

Flames mismanaged him huge though. You can't put a player like him on the 4th line for 7 minutes a night and expect him to succeed.

I would be shocked if Vey plays center this season. The west is loaded with physically strong centers who will overpower Vey. His best assets are his creativity and ability to create plays offensively. He has not found his game at the NHL level yet, but he has had success playing in the WHL and AHL.

He is still just 23 and has less than 100 NHL games under his belt. I expect that the coaching staff will give him powerplay time in an effort to kick start his offence. Placing him at center would be a major defensive liability and would likely stall his development. As we sit now, the Canucks have three very capable NHL centers who will round out the top 3 lines ( Sedin, Bonino, Horvat). Placing Vey at center would put him in 3rd or 4th line situations. No coaching staff in the entire league could justify using an offensive-minded winger as a 3rd line center.

I expect Willie Desjardins to test out Vey and Baertschi on lines 2 and 3 to see if they can find chemistry with the likes of Bonino or Horvat. Unfortunately, I do not see both of them getting into significant roles this season. I would expect to see Baertschi play most of the season with Utica as Vey has more NHL experience and has worked with the Canucks coaching staff one year longer than Baertschi
- MikeO37

I can see your side of the argument for not putting Vey at centre, but don't think Baertschi will be spending any time in Utica unless he gets injured and is doing a conditioning stint there.

The need Baertschi for some goals. Need to replace Matthias' production.

I can see your side of the argument for not putting Vey at centre, but don't think Baertschi will be spending any time in Utica unless he gets injured and is doing a conditioning stint there.

The need Baertschi for some goals. Need to replace Matthias' production.
- hillbillydeluxe

Sven is waiver eligible....the Flames would probably claim him haha

Flames mismanaged him huge though. You can't put a player like him on the 4th line for 7 minutes a night and expect him to succeed.
- I-own_da-Northwest

I agree he was mismanaged but I do not think he should have gotten top 9 minutes ahead of any of the guys they had there ...essentially there were a couple less skilled guys who just out worked him and offered a more diverse game ...I expect him to be given the minutes he needs in van and he either puts up some numbers or you never hear from him again

If Galchenyuk is still projected to be a 1st or 2nd line centre, I think you have to make that deal.

Galchenyuk over three seasons, 193gp with 42 goals and 104pts, 80gp last season, generating 20g -46pts.

I am not sure what we can expect from Shink, if or when he gets going.

I do like Shink, but think it is easier to find a top 6 winger than a top 6 centre.
- hillbillydeluxe

Where did this rumor come from?

Where did this rumor come from?
- VanHockeyGuy

No rumor. I just posed a question if people would trade Bonino + for Galchenyuk.

No rumor. I just posed a question if people would trade Bonino + for Galchenyuk.
- Retinalz

Depends what the plus is.

I honestly don't see the Habs trading him for a small forward ...if JV was involved in the deal then you could see something worked out
- Redmile247

It also included Bonino a 3rd line c (2nd line c in Van)who has put up some goals in the past on the pp (with Getzlaf and Perry) and is good on the pk.

I agree though, don't see the Habs trading Galchenyuk.

No rumor. I just posed a question if people would trade Bonino + for Galchenyuk.
- Retinalz

Yes, for sure.

It also included Bonino a 3rd line c (2nd line c in Van)who has put up some goals in the past on the pp (with Getzlaf and Perry) and is good on the pk.

I agree though, don't see the Habs trading Galchenyuk.
- hillbillydeluxe

I don't think the offer is terrible ...but I think the prospect would be the appeal to the Habs not bonino

I don't think the offer is terrible ...but I think the prospect would be the appeal to the Habs not bonino
- Redmile247

No problem, he's one of the few players without a NTC.

Carol I cannot agree with you on mathias. His type of play no one else on the team possesses

Also in regards to space for a younger player higgins produces way less and makes more than mathias which makes him the logical choice......with his age it also suggests hes taking up space. Id take mathias over higgins

Carol I cannot agree with you on mathias. His type of play no one else on the team possesses

Also in regards to space for a younger player higgins produces way less and makes more than mathias which makes him the logical choice......with his age it also suggests hes taking up space. Id take mathias over higgins
- SMBDragon

Mathias is another big body that shows he can use it only once and a while as well as his skill game.

I would keep Higgins only for his elite PK skills.

Carol I cannot agree with you on mathias. His type of play no one else on the team possesses

Also in regards to space for a younger player higgins produces way less and makes more than mathias which makes him the logical choice......with his age it also suggests hes taking up space. Id take mathias over higgins
- SMBDragon

I disagree, not because I like Higgins, but because Higgins is consistent, where Matthias is a feast or famine type.