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Canadianthunder
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: SK
Joined: 10.13.2014

Jul 6 @ 1:20 AM ET
Drouin 4 Stamkos 10 Callahan 5.8
Palat 6 Johnson 6 Kucherov 4
Erne 1.5 Namestnikov 2 Brown 1
Paquette 1.25 Point 1.5 Stephens .875

Hedman 7.5 Stralman 4.5
Koekkoek 3 Deangelo 3
Nesterov 2.5 Blujus 1.5
Spencer 1

Vasilevskiy 3.5
Wilcox 1

In a few years, AVV are estimates.

- Artyukhin76


I really don't see Yzerman getting rid of or letting Killorn walk. I know that everyone kind of sees him as the odd man out but he showed especially in the playoffs exactly how valuable a player of his skill, size, and ability to play up and down the lineup can be.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 6 @ 4:41 AM ET
I think streit would be a great pick up for you guys especially moving the puck and on the pp. The years left on contract is a hard pill to swallow but I think he would be a upgrade over Coburn and carle.
- jmdodgeser4

tpd11
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 6 @ 7:02 AM ET
Cmon Michael can't we enjoy the ride for a few years before worrying what will happen as it does to all teams, a couple of years is a long time and anything can happen. Trust the boys upstairs know their business better than we do and enjoy the success, it's been a long wait for the Bolts fans to see a playoff team and I think we were a little ahead of the curve this year. No one knows what the cap will be and the Cdollar has a big impact on that and even the finance world gets those numbers wrong. Everyone estimated the cap would be 75-76 mil by now but its 71. Tell me the cap figures for these years and then we can discuss salaries and moves.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 6 @ 7:21 AM ET
I really don't see Yzerman getting rid of or letting Killorn walk. I know that everyone kind of sees him as the odd man out but he showed especially in the playoffs exactly how valuable a player of his skill, size, and ability to play up and down the lineup can be.
- Canadianthunder

Then who? Kucherov? Palat? JOHNSON? Sorry to burst your bubble, but with his clone going to Syracuse for the up coming season, Killorn IS the odd man out and unless you're willing to trade one of the players from our best line then....
DirtyDozen
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 11.28.2014

Jul 6 @ 9:10 AM ET
Gotta be honest, I think your Stamkos and Hedman numbers are too low, by at least 10% each.
- Sandus


Agreed - i dont see Stamkos taking less than Toews & Kane. I also think the Kucherov number is low (albeit that depends on what he does the next two seasons).

Even Johnson may be low - if he hits a PPG next season he could be looking in the $7M range...ROR is a perfect example of a young guy hitting a huge payday.

Lots depends on player performance though so its hard to say.
RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Canada
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
Agreed - i dont see Stamkos taking less than Toews & Kane. I also think the Kucherov number is low (albeit that depends on what he does the next two seasons).

Even Johnson may be low - if he hits a PPG next season he could be looking in the $7M range...ROR is a perfect example of a young guy hitting a huge payday.

Lots depends on player performance though so its hard to say.

- DirtyDozen


Maybe the triplets take a discount based on the fact they get to keep playing with each other for awhile and win cups with stamkos

Obviously they're going to get good money but maybe not as much as they potentially could IF they agreed to it. Will they ever play on as good of a line in their careers ever again? Who knows, doubt it
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jul 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
Maybe the triplets take a discount based on the fact they get to keep playing with each other for awhile and win cups with stamkos

Obviously they're going to get good money but maybe not as much as they potentially could IF they agreed to it. Will they ever play on as good of a line in their careers ever again? Who knows, doubt it

- RileyB77


I have played with scenarios and its feasible to keep alot of the talent even into the 2017-2018 season when Heddy and the Palat and Johnson are due before the start of that season.

It is feasible to field a team with Stamkos and Hedman at 11MM, Palat and Johnson at 7.5MM, Kucherov on the Ryan Johansson deal of 4MM x 3rs, Callahan and Stralman on their current deals and maybe Garrison, but no Killorn and moderate pay bumps for guys like Drouin and Vasy, and small pay bumps for Vlad, JT, Cedric, etc. Then fill in the roster with younger entry level deals if possible. I have played with hockeyscap.com armchair and this is doable with a CAP at around 76MM.

All this said Carle, Coburn, Filppula, Boyle, Bishop would have to be gone and no salary retention.

Will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 6 @ 3:03 PM ET
I have played with scenarios and its feasible to keep alot of the talent even into the 2017-2018 season when Heddy and the Palat and Johnson are due before the start of that season.

It is feasible to field a team with Stamkos and Hedman at 11MM, Palat and Johnson at 7.5MM, Kucherov on the Ryan Johansson deal of 4MM x 3rs, Callahan and Stralman on their current deals and maybe Garrison, but no Killorn and moderate pay bumps for guys like Drouin and Vasy, and small pay bumps for Vlad, JT, Cedric, etc. Then fill in the roster with younger entry level deals if possible. I have played with hockeyscap.com armchair and this is doable with a CAP at around 76MM.

All this said Carle, Coburn, Filppula, Boyle, Bishop would have to be gone and no salary retention.

Will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

- stammerman


And no Killorn.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jul 6 @ 3:58 PM ET
Anyone got summer blog topics they'd like to see?
tpd11
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 6 @ 5:26 PM ET
Anyone got summer blog topics they'd like to see?
- Michael_Stuart

Really not much until Stammer signs. Like everyone they're playing golf and/or healing.black hole in the hockey world for another two months.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:53 PM ET
Anyone got summer blog topics they'd like to see?
- Michael_Stuart

Perhaps one on how we stack up against the "improved" teams in our division and conference?
angryminority
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: The People's Democratic Republ, FL
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 6 @ 10:19 PM ET
Anyone got summer blog topics they'd like to see?
- Michael_Stuart


You could write one about how Jimmie Olvestadt was the best player to wear the bolt. With Dimitry Afanasenkov as a close second.
Canadianthunder
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: SK
Joined: 10.13.2014

Jul 6 @ 11:09 PM ET
Anyone got summer blog topics they'd like to see?
- Michael_Stuart


Individual grades of each player from the past season. That would last you quite a while as well it would create both debate and intrigue on how you felt each player, either performed up to expectations or failed to do so.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 6 @ 11:32 PM ET
Perhaps one on how we stack up against the "improved" teams in our division and conference?
- Artyukhin76

ya i like that most improved teams in our divison
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 7 @ 12:29 AM ET
Anyone got summer blog topics they'd like to see?
- Michael_Stuart

salary cap trouble solutions ?
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 7 @ 12:31 AM ET
Anyone got summer blog topics they'd like to see?
- Michael_Stuart

a new stamkos contract
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jul 7 @ 2:04 AM ET
Perhaps one on how we stack up against the "improved" teams in our division and conference?
- Artyukhin76


I like it.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 7 @ 8:26 AM ET
I like it.
- Michael_Stuart

I'll be waiting....
RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Canada
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 7 @ 10:00 AM ET
I'll be waiting....
- Artyukhin76


You got a female dog (frank)ed up
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jul 7 @ 10:54 AM ET
You got a female dog (frank)ed up
- RileyB77

Huh?
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