Who gets Bieksa's minutes?
Sbisa getting elevated to top 4?

Shinkaruk + McCann
- mr.sir

McCann is a non starter. I don't think any younger guys are on the block at all. JVR is nothing special.

Who gets Bieksa's minutes?
- puckhead17

Phaneuf

Who gets Bieksa's minutes?
- puckhead17

Bartkowski - that's the plan anyways...he's on a one year deal.

JVR, 2nd
for
Shinkaruk, McCann, 4th
- mr.sir

I value Mccann very close to JVR already. Adding in Shink is just because he is behind baer in depth. Adding a 2nd makes that even, us adding a 4th is a little much. If needed we can add a 6th or 7th.

Bartkowski - that's the plan anyways...he's on a one year deal.
- LeftCoaster

Has he ever played 20 minutes a night? Consistently?

McCann is a non starter. I don't think any younger guys are on the block at all. JVR is nothing special.
- thundachunk

Doesn't play a 200 foot game, part of the reason the Leafs picked 4th overall this year.

McCann is a non starter. I don't think any younger guys are on the block at all. JVR is nothing special.
- thundachunk

Disagree.
JVR at 4.25m is one of the best contracts in league.
Big young winger, not afraid to stand in front of net
30 goals easy

JVR, 2nd
for
Shinkaruk, McCann, 4th
- mr.sir

Sorry, but that's a HELL NO. JVR is outside the window of what they are looking to build.

This team needs a rebuild on the D-Core. I am more or less content with the forward prospects we have.

Bartkowski - that's the plan anyways...he's on a one year deal.
- LeftCoaster

Problem is, will Sbisa take minutes away from Corrado/Clendening? Or will Sbisa be the guy we sit/send down to AHL to develope further. With that contract i doubt any teams pick him off waivers.

Has he ever played 20 minutes a night? Consistently?
- puckhead17

Honestly don't know. I think Benning took a bit of a flyer on him, no pun intended, because he saw him play in Boston. Obviously like him. Although Claude scratched him several times last year.

I value Mccann very close to JVR already. Adding in Shink is just because he is behind baer in depth. Adding a 2nd makes that even, us adding a 4th is a little much. If needed we can add a 6th or 7th.
- Retinalz

alright..call JB. My work is done...

Who gets Bieksa's minutes?
Sbisa getting elevated to top 4?
- puckhead17

Top 2

ok then...JVR for Horvat?
- mr.sir

I'd certainly be a lot more interested in JVR than Lupul. He's definitely got more value, given his age and reasonable cap hit. Of course, any trade scenario that involves Horvat would require a premium in terms of return, so not sure if a one for one deal would do it (yes, I know there's a little homerism involved, but I think if you ask anyone who the untouchables are on this team, you'd invariably get a response which would include Horvat (as well as the Sedins)

Problem is, will Sbisa take minutes away from Corrado/Clendening? Or will Sbisa be the guy we sit/send down to AHL to develope further. With that contract i doubt any teams pick him off waivers.
- Retinalz

Don't know - that's why they play the games. It'll work itself out through their play.

well
- mr.sir

Maybe some of that winning culture can rub off on our young guns.

I'd certainly be a lot more interested in JVR than Lupul. He's definitely got more value, given his age and reasonable cap hit. Of course, any trade scenario that involves Horvat would require a premium in terms of return, so not sure if a one for one deal would do it (yes, I know there's a little homerism involved, but I think if you ask anyone who the untouchables are on this team, you'd invariably get a response which would include Horvat (as well as the Sedins)
- Zogg

That's Ok.
Leafs fans untouchables:
1) Rielly
2) JVR

Honestly don't know. I think Benning took a bit of a flyer on him, no pun intended, because he saw him play in Boston. Obviously like him. Although Claude scratched him several times last year.
- LeftCoaster

Maybe depends on the system?

But Edler Hamhuis, Sbisa, & Tanev is a pretty solid top 4.
Especially with Tanev stepping up.

Sorry, but that's a HELL NO. JVR is outside the window of what they are looking to build.

This team needs a rebuild on the D-Core. I am more or less content with the forward prospects we have.
- rugdnit

JVR is a big guy with talent, he just has the issue of playing with Grimace and that guy with the weird face, Dion Phaneuf. I think he could contribute a lot with the right coaching staff/teammates. Though maybe adding in Mcann is a little much. Maybe make that 2nd a 1st from toronto.

Top 2
- docmorgan

Maybe it's sink, or swim time.
For Sbisa

Maybe some of that winning culture can rub off on our young guns.
- Marwood

you realize that you guys are just 3 years behind us in the rebuild right now...

you will toil in mediocrity for a few years, until the rebuild is a necessity

(just like we did)

Maybe depends on the system?

But Edler Hamhuis, Sbisa, & Tanev is a pretty solid top 4.
Especially with Tanev stepping up.
- puckhead17

Well that's an ok top three, I wouldn't go as far as "a pretty solid top 4"

Problem is, will Sbisa take minutes away from Corrado/Clendening? Or will Sbisa be the guy we sit/send down to AHL to develope further. With that contract i doubt any teams pick him off waivers.
- Retinalz

If Sbisa plays with Hamhuis he will become more defensively responsible. I think he will do well with more minutes. Everyone is to worried about Sbisa.

Well that's an ok top three, I wouldn't go as far as "a pretty solid top 4"
- LeftCoaster

Where does Gardiner fit into that top 4?

Well that's an ok top three, I wouldn't go as far as "a pretty solid top 4"
- LeftCoaster

Didn't realize Luca was 25 already.
That would be our fault, (flyers), they should have sent him down for a few years, but he played well enough to stay, and he did.