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jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:43 AM ET
sounds like a good strategy for one pennsylvanian team.... whens claude and vorechek getting moved for retooling?
- ChrisMS


We are retooling. Through the draft. We have to remove crap contracts as well. We are a good two to three years from being a threat. We just have one line that is consistant. Even that is questionable at times because of the left wing
Bradlee3
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tanev hit was clean.
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:46 AM ET
interesting piece, had no idea the #'s. heard many people say that those two didn't mesh but if you got a bigger sample size with Malkin the #'s might be a little closer to each other but I doesn't really matter who plays with Kessel, do you think he cares ? I doubt it.
Bradlee3
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tanev hit was clean.
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:49 AM ET
I don't think we will see the top heavy penguins have any problems with their bottom 6 until/if a major player goes down. The penguins are going to score goals, its inevitable. But if Malkin, Crosby or Fluery go down hurt for a signifigantly long period of time, then they may be in some serious trouble.
- nurk

that's the same with any team , injuries can kill any teams season. We are no stranger to health problems
nurk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: City of Champions, PA
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:51 AM ET
I think the argument is that the Pens should have outbid the Blues for Oshie. I personally think the package given up was pretty pathetic.
- jfkst1

And a trade with a prospect and a pick would make an already barren prospect pool even more barren.
nurk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: City of Champions, PA
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jul 3 @ 8:52 AM ET
that's the same with any team , injuries can kill any teams season. We are no stranger to health problems
- Bradlee3

I think it fleury goes down for a significant period of time it would be worse for them compared to other teams. The rangers lost Lundqvuist for awhile, the blackhawks lost crawford for awhile but the way their defense is structured they didnt miss a beat and the backup stepped right in and the team didnt sputter.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:53 AM ET
I'd go
duper-sid-kessel--- they'd be a blur
plotn-malkin-horny- if plotni has chem with malkin it is a huge win for pens...
perron-sutter-kunitz- Love the depth
maybe farnham if he isnt dumb- sund if he is ready- rust/wilson
or
sign cheap desjardins, cullen, mitchell, berg, kopecky, bernier, dwyer, nash, skille, moss, upshall... get one or two for a million a piece prove you still got it contracts. good depth.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:54 AM ET
And a trade with a prospect and a pick would make an already barren prospect pool even more barren.
- nurk


They are doing the same thing the flyers have done for years now. Cashing out the future for a chance to win now
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:54 AM ET
And a trade with a prospect and a pick would make an already barren prospect pool even more barren.
- nurk


They are doing the same thing the flyers have done for years now. Cashing out the future for a chance to win now
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:55 AM ET
And a trade with a prospect and a pick would make an already barren prospect pool even more barren.
- nurk


far less barren than people think.... a decent amount of pens prospects are college players and they tend to get overlooked.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jul 3 @ 8:55 AM ET
And a trade with a prospect and a pick would make an already barren prospect pool even more barren.
- nurk


Are you Oneonta's alt? Just asking as there are some similarities in your comments.

Your right about the above though.

Some here might even start trading Sprong.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:58 AM ET
Are you Oneonta's alt? Just asking as there are some similarities in your comments.

Your right about the above though.

Some here might even start trading Sprong.

- Aussiepenguin


Hey! Loneys son was signed! how can we possibly lose!
lpstjg
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.28.2015

Jul 3 @ 8:58 AM ET
Am I the only one thinking Perro - Crosby - Kessel might not be the best combination? I feel like Crosby really needs that player that's going to go hard in the corners and behind the net to win puck battles and I am not sure Perron does that very well and it seems that Kessel doesn't either (and I'd rather have him stay in front of the net ready to take a shot anyways). That's where/how Horny was really effective with Sid IMO. Maybe Kunitz (if back to his previous self) or Dupuis would provide that for that line. Or maybe Plotnikov but I wouldn't thrust him into top line minutes right away. That would put Perron with Malkin and would probably be the trigger man as Malkin will be the main focus by the other team's defenders.
Weisenheimer
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Souda
Joined: 02.07.2015

Jul 3 @ 8:59 AM ET
I'd go
duper-sid-kessel--- they'd be a blur
plotn-malkin-horny- if plotni has chem with malkin it is a huge win for pens...
perron-sutter-kunitz- Love the depth
maybe farnham if he isnt dumb- sund if he is ready- rust/wilson
or
sign cheap desjardins, cullen, mitchell, berg, kopecky, bernier, dwyer, nash, skille, moss, upshall... get one or two for a million a piece prove you still got it contracts. good depth.

- ChrisMS


Dupuis Crosby Kessel
Plotnikov Malkin Hornqvist
Kunitz Sutter Perron
Rust/Wilson FA Bennett

GMJR has already said they are looking at adding a 4th line center. I think everything else will shake itself out.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 8:59 AM ET
I think it fleury goes down for a significant period of time it would be worse for them compared to other teams. The rangers lost Lundqvuist for awhile, the blackhawks lost crawford for awhile but the way their defense is structured they didnt miss a beat and the backup stepped right in and the team didnt sputter.
- nurk


It would be kinda fun to see murray in action up here. at least he would be more fun to watch than... labarbara? ouch
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jul 3 @ 9:00 AM ET
And a trade with a prospect and a pick would make an already barren prospect pool even more barren.
- nurk


They gave up a 3rd (pens have three of those in 2016) and a low level prospect. Suckturd, two thirds, and another throw in prospect if need be would have been a dream trade. Suckturd is also a rental this year so unloading him would be ideal.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jul 3 @ 9:00 AM ET
far less barren than people think.... a decent amount of pens prospects are college players and they tend to get overlooked.
- ChrisMS


Did Blueger get resigned do you know?
nurk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: City of Champions, PA
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jul 3 @ 9:00 AM ET
It would be kinda fun to see murray in action up here. at least he would be more fun to watch than... labarbara? ouch
- ChrisMS

Labarbara is the Flyers 3rd string goalie. I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this jab but I think it was a major fail.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 9:00 AM ET
Dupuis Crosby Kessel
Plotnikov Malkin Hornqvist
Kunitz Sutter Perron
Rust/Wilson FA Bennett

GMJR has already said they are looking at adding a 4th line center. I think everything else will shake itself out.

- Weisenheimer


bennett would look great on the top line in wbs... why oh why cant we send him down. treat him like they did despres and actually give him a chance to develop in the right atmosphere.
Thorny
Location: OH
Joined: 10.15.2011

Jul 3 @ 9:01 AM ET
Troy Brouwer is a solid player with a ton of grit. I don't think Kunitz or Sutter straight up is a better package then Brouwer and future pick and a prospect. IMHO, I think the caps package is better then Kunitz or Sutter.
- nurk



Rumor has it at draft time, Kap or Harrington, plus a roster player and a pick was offered for Oshie and the Blues turned it down. I found it funny that, at the draft Kap was not part of the package for PK, so I would assume Kap was part of the package for Oshie. There are a couple writers who reported that the Pens were shocked at what the Blues got, after turning down what the Pens offered. They felt they offered the better package of players/picks. SO who knows, honestly.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 9:01 AM ET
Did Blueger get resigned do you know?
- Aussiepenguin


I believe... and supposedly geuntzel is starting to look studly.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jul 3 @ 9:02 AM ET
How am I supposed to read this....there is only one graph. Come on Ryan.
- nurk


Not to mention it was so simple even I could understand it.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:02 AM ET
They are doing the same thing the flyers have done for years now. Cashing out the future for a chance to win now
- jmdodgeser4


This is true. But when you have the generational level talent that the Pens do, there really is no way to justify doing a rebuild while wasting the prime years of 87 and 71.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jul 3 @ 9:02 AM ET
Labarbara is the Flyers 3rd string goalie. I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this jab but I think it was a major fail.
- nurk


it was a bit round about... you talked about our barren farm system and then i compared the fact your farm depth in goal was a washed out dude and our third stringer was a blue chip prospect. duh.
nurk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: City of Champions, PA
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jul 3 @ 9:03 AM ET
They gave up a 3rd (pens have three of those in 2016) and a low level prospect. Suckturd, two thirds, and another throw in prospect of need be would have been a dream trade. Suckturd is also a rental this year so unloading him would be ideal.
- jfkst1

And how do you know that St Louis didn't value Brouwer 10 times more than Sutter?
Have you ever seen the prospect that the Caps traded play? And you probably don't know how much St louis valued him as well.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:04 AM ET
Not to mention it was so simple even I could understand it.
- Thunderbolt

I said the same thing.
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