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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:04 AM ET
i dont think gagner is straight garbage. hes infinitely better than vinny right now, in my opinion.
- stayinthefnnet


He's got Brayden Schenn stats.

And it's one year.

We'll live.

Gagner needs an NHL team right now more than it needs him. And he's still better than the dreck on the FA market.

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 2 @ 12:06 AM ET
He's got Brayden Schenn stats.

And it's one year.

We'll live.

Gagner needs an NHL team right now more than it needs him. And he's still better than the dreck on the FA market.

- johndewar


exactly. but for a cap dump warm body, you could do much worse.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:15 AM ET
exactly. but for a cap dump warm body, you could do much worse.
- stayinthefnnet


Definitely. Dude's got good hands, that much is clear.

Truthfully, I haven't seen enough, outside of highlights, to see how he fits.

It's just one year and this team ain't contending this year.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:19 AM ET
My response to MJL was admittingly on called for and unprovoked, my apologizes but I have to ask, who are the right players to play for this team? Sam Gagner fills a need of depth in the line up and while he's willing to play at any forward position, so was Vinny. Gagner has seen the majority of his career at center but many believe he'll be placed at wing because of his defensive shortcomings. Sam Gagner isn't a player the Flyers should have traded for but he's here. Not a good defensive center, never met expectations offensively.
- SuperSchennBros


As you say, he's here. That's really the bottom line for me. I liked Grossmann well enough, but he's gone. Pronger's cap hit is off the books and that's Awesome. We had a sweet draft and I'm in a good place with my favorite team.

Gagner, in my opinion, is a low risk, high reward proposition. He should be very motivated. And as poorly as the Flyers played last season, I believe they are better than any team he has played on to date. And hopefully the developmental side of Hakstol can bring out the best in a still young and once highly regarded athlete.

Finally, without a doubt Hextall would have moved him had he needed and/or had plans for the dollars Gagner is eating.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:20 AM ET
Or were we supposed to fight?

I don't even remember. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

- johndewar


Only if white bread is your absolute favorite. If so, then it's ON!

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:24 AM ET
Definitely. Dude's got good hands, that much is clear.

Truthfully, I haven't seen enough, outside of highlights, to see how he fits.

It's just one year and this team ain't contending this year.

- johndewar


I don't know what his wheels are like, but I look forward to a breakaway or two next season where Gagner just makes the goalie look silly with his moves.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 2 @ 12:44 AM ET
i dont think gagner is straight garbage. hes infinitely better than vinny right now, in my opinion.
- stayinthefnnet

I don't understand how Gagner and Vinny are suddenly linked. I want Umberger out of here so (frank)in bad!
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 2 @ 12:49 AM ET
I wish we could drop the Schenn brothers. They leave such a poor taste in my mouth.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 2 @ 12:53 AM ET
I wish we could drop the Schenn brothers. They leave such a poor taste in my mouth.
- MikesPillBottle

Weird
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 2 @ 1:05 AM ET
Weird
- SuperSchennBros

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 2 @ 1:18 AM ET
I wish we could drop the Schenn brothers. They leave such a poor taste in my mouth.
- MikesPillBottle


I see what you did there.

I criticize Baby Schenn as much as anyone, but I want to see him coached up by this dude.

Also, I'm not gonna lie, I've been watching YouTube videos of "The Shift" by Mike Richards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs_3PeQQUxc

Loved that guy.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:26 AM ET
I see what you did there.

I criticize Baby Schenn as much as anyone, but I want to see him coached up by this dude.

Also, I'm not gonna lie, I've been watching YouTube videos of "The Shift" by Mike Richards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs_3PeQQUxc

Loved that guy.

- johndewar

Me too! He was easily my favourite player when he played for Philly.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 2 @ 1:28 AM ET
Me too! He was easily my favourite player when he played for Philly.
- Cable2k


I bought a Giroux jersey because of the Game 3 OT goal that I saw in person, but Richards was always my guy.

Sucks to see him fall so far.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jul 2 @ 1:32 AM ET
Saw this linked from NHL.com
https://www.hefflercases.com/cases/nhl/

Under the Settlement and subject to the NHL’s continued delineation of its clubs’ local broadcast territorial rights, and associated blackout practices, the NHL has agreed to provide seasonal packages of single team’s out-of-market games through NHL GameCenter LIVE for each and every NHL Club (e.g., a stream of just the Chicago Blackhawks’ out-of-market games). These individual team bundles will be priced at 20% below the cost of the full GameCenter LIVE package. The NHL has also agreed to make this option available to Comcast and DIRECTV so that they may offer unbundled seasonal packages of single team games for each and every NHL Club available through NHL Center Ice, although Comcast and DIRECTV are not obligated to offer such packages.

The NHL has also agreed to provide a 17.25% discount to the retail prices for the early bird, renewal, and full-season packages of GameCenter LIVE for the 2015-2016 season. This discount will also apply to any unbundled single team package, meaning that the price for a single team package will be discounted by 17.25% thereby maintaining the 20% discount set forth above.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jul 2 @ 1:33 AM ET
Everybody on all 3 organizations affiliated with the Flyers for Tarasenko, Shattenkirk and Oshie. And the guy Oshie ties up to tend the net
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:39 AM ET
I bought a Giroux jersey because of the Game 3 OT goal that I saw in person, but Richards was always my guy.

Sucks to see him fall so far.

- johndewar

It sure does ... I would really like to know what is going on in his head these days ...
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 2 @ 1:46 AM ET
Everybody on all 3 organizations affiliated with the Flyers for Tarasenko, Shattenkirk and Oshie. And the guy Oshie ties up to tend the net
- wilsonecho91


Oshie played for Hakstol, so every player that ever played for Hak is gonna be a rumor target.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 2 @ 2:30 AM ET
@frank_seravalli: Sounds as if #Flyers will be buying out Sam Gagner. Hextall won't commit to keeping him. #TSN

Hextall transcript:

- Feanor


Be nice -- plenty of media, including Bill, surmised the same thing

But after last week, I'll say this: If folks care that much about Seravalli to parse every word while ignoring everybody else's, then go for it

How people spend their time is up to them, and it's up to me to determine how to spend my time, and no matter what I say or anyone else says, Seravalli is doing what he does, and none of us can control that, either
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 2 @ 4:11 AM ET
Never a Frank fan. I remember when he put out that ridiculous Stamkos to Flyers rumor a few years back. It was so apparent that he was just hoping to put something out there and it would stick so he could say he initially reported it. Never did I think the Flyers were getting Stamkos. Enjoy Toronto Frank, you aren't missed here

- nonpoint22


Frank is still here, just working for TSN now.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 2 @ 4:30 AM ET
Be nice -- plenty of media, including Bill, surmised the same thing

But after last week, I'll say this: If folks care that much about Seravalli to parse every word while ignoring everybody else's, then go for it

How people spend their time is up to them, and it's up to me to determine how to spend my time, and no matter what I say or anyone else says, Seravalli is doing what he does, and none of us can control that, either

- AllInForFlyers


It wasn't hard to surmise that Flyers seriously considered a buyout if they felt optimistic about other options. Hexy was asked three times if the team was keeping Gagner. Three times he was totally non-committal. Asked about a buyout possibility, he said the brass would meet on Monday and decide a direction. Asked if he felt it was more likely the player was NOT bought out, Hextall said he had no idea yet.

Compare those statements to his statements on Vinny's situation as relates to a buyout possibility. From April onward, Hextall said emphatically that he had no interest whatsoever in buying the player out. Trade yes, buyout no.

On Sunday, Gagner said he hoped to stay and management had told him they were going to try to make it work --- mind you, with the team already under the cap with enough room to make the minor moves that have followed plus get something done with MDZ -- but he understood if they felt the need to buy him out.

In other words, the Flyers clearlwere kicking tires on something larger but elected to more or less stand pat.

coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 2 @ 5:12 AM ET
It wasn't hard to surmise that Flyers seriously considered a buyout if they felt optimistic about other options. Hexy was asked three times if the team was keeping Gagner. Three times he was totally non-committal. Asked about a buyout possibility, he said the brass would meet on Monday and decide a direction. Asked if he felt it was more likely the player was NOT bought out, Hextall said he had no idea yet.

Compare those statements to his statements on Vinny's situation as relates to a buyout possibility. From April onward, Hextall said emphatically that he had no interest whatsoever in buying the player out. Trade yes, buyout no.

On Sunday, Gagner said he hoped to stay and management had told him they were going to try to make it work --- mind you, with the team already under the cap with enough room to make the minor moves that have followed plus get something done with MDZ -- but he understood if they felt the need to buy him out.

In other words, the Flyers clearlwere kicking tires on something larger but elected to more or less stand pat.

- bmeltzer


Bill, they only have 4.1M left in cap space. Will MDZ sign for 3M or less to give them enough wiggle room? Seems unlikely to me but that is what you are suggesting above right? Of course they could always try arbitration.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 2 @ 7:54 AM ET
It wasn't hard to surmise that Flyers seriously considered a buyout if they felt optimistic about other options. Hexy was asked three times if the team was keeping Gagner. Three times he was totally non-committal. Asked about a buyout possibility, he said the brass would meet on Monday and decide a direction. Asked if he felt it was more likely the player was NOT bought out, Hextall said he had no idea yet.

Compare those statements to his statements on Vinny's situation as relates to a buyout possibility. From April onward, Hextall said emphatically that he had no interest whatsoever in buying the player out. Trade yes, buyout no.

On Sunday, Gagner said he hoped to stay and management had told him they were going to try to make it work --- mind you, with the team already under the cap with enough room to make the minor moves that have followed plus get something done with MDZ -- but he understood if they felt the need to buy him out.

In other words, the Flyers clearlwere kicking tires on something larger but elected to more or less stand pat.

- bmeltzer


I hear you, and understand completely -- he didn't say yes or no, but sometimes, people who conduct the interviews have to assess what wasn't said, as well. People reported what he actually said, then assessed it and offered their take

I don't understand the intense hatred that Seravalli inspires, but again, whatever floats people's boats. No one cares if I don't understand it
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 2 @ 8:00 AM ET
Can't wait to watch the pens next year. Weak leadership and throw in Kessel
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 2 @ 8:01 AM ET
Oshie played for Hakstol, so every player that ever played for Hak is gonna be a rumor target.
- johndewar


Adam Nightingale ‏@ANight92 13h13 hours ago
Update on #Flyers/#Blues trade discussion. There is NO timeline on this POTENTIAL deal. Monitoring it intensely. Nothing more as of now
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 2 @ 8:06 AM ET
CS ain't slow, he just sucks
- Tomahawk



Not a good skater in my opinion, and not the kind of player needed.
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