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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Bieksa and Kassian Gone, Weber Returns & Depth Signings
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 1 @ 4:55 PM ET
In this case, I think you've struck the poop vein. He's a worse version of Rene Bourque
- DariusKnight

Pretty much bang-on

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 4:56 PM ET
Based on who's opinion?

I mean Murrey gave him 2.8 and he's proven to be a good gm. I think you're talking out of your ass on this one

- Bieksa#3

Based on the facts:

http://my.hockeybuzz.com/...t_id=16894&user_id=103557

Murray is a good GM but every GM makes bad deals.

He's literally the worst at everything...
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 1 @ 5:03 PM ET
Derek Dorsett sent Benning a text saying "Thank You" for the Prust signing. #Canucks


- LeftCoaster


Canuck fighting majors last year
Dorsett 17
Bieksa 3
Sbisa 2
Hamhuis 2

no wonder he's happy to have Prust here
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 1 @ 5:37 PM ET
Bring back gillis
- pker2theend



Yessssssss. And then the tank will be complete.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 1 @ 5:40 PM ET
Shanahan: "This was really about us saying that we’ve got to build this thing the right away, through the draft with prospects."

Guy trades one of the best goal scorers in the league and says it's about building towards the future but some Canucks fans are freaking out because we traded Zack frickin Kassin

- LeftCoaster


Kassian - face of the franchise.

And what a face it is.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 1 @ 5:44 PM ET
So many people talking about assets a the TDL. I think Prust is a perfect TDL chip. Contenders are always looking for character guys for a cup run.
bazz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:44 PM ET
Yessssssss. And then the tank will be complete.
- bloatedmosquito


Except Gillis would trade all the picks first.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:47 PM ET
So many people talking about assets a the TDL. I think Prust is a perfect TDL chip. Contenders are always looking for character guys for a cup run.
- bloatedmosquito

Agreed, I could see him fetching a 3rd at the TDL but hopefully the Canucks will be selling. Kassian + 5th for a 3rd still looks pretty bad though
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
Beleskey to the Bruins. Looks like they basically traded Lucic for Beleskey and two firsts....not bad.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:54 PM ET
Be careful what you wish for. We've wanted a rebuild and now we are getting whining from fans.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Rebuilds are fine , just stop trading draft picks .

I understand the Kassian trade straight up. I don't understand give up the draft pick as well.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 1 @ 5:54 PM ET
Agreed, I could see him fetching a 3rd at the TDL but hopefully the Canucks will be selling. Kassian + 5th for a 3rd still looks pretty bad though
- Nucker101

Burrows and Prust back to the Habs at TDL for 2nd & 3rd.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jul 1 @ 5:55 PM ET
Canuck fighting majors last year
Dorsett 17
Bieksa 3
Sbisa 2
Hamhuis 2

no wonder he's happy to have Prust here

- A_SteamingLombardi


They were also teammate in NYR unless Prust left before Dorsett got there. I'm sure they'll look good on a line together.

Sucks to give up on Kassian, but he's had his chances. If management says he's not going to get there, I'll believe them.

I'm happy to see the Bieksa situation resolved, but I'd rather have had SJ's 2nd. Anaheim is most likely to be picking pretty late.

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 1 @ 5:56 PM ET
Rebuilds are fine , just stop trading draft picks .

I understand the Kassian trade straight up. I don't understand give up the draft pick as well.

- VANTEL

Because we recoup a pick when we trade Prust at TDL, hopefully much higher than the 5th
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 1 @ 5:57 PM ET
They were also teammate in NYR unless Prust left before Dorsett got there. I'm sure they'll look good on a line together.

Sucks to give up on Kassian, but he's had his chances. If management says he's not going to get there, I'll believe them.

I'm happy to see the Bieksa situation resolved, but I'd rather have had SJ's 2nd. Anaheim is most likely to be picking pretty late.

- micah555

Yeah it's strange that we believed Gillis but don't believe Benning.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 5:57 PM ET
So many people talking about assets a the TDL. I think Prust is a perfect TDL chip. Contenders are always looking for character guys for a cup run.
- bloatedmosquito

Benning so far hasn't traded any assets at TDL and he said last year , he wanted to give a chance to the players who got him to the playoff run .

So there is no certainty that Benning will move anyone if Canucks are close to making the playoffs.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 6:00 PM ET
So many people talking about assets a the TDL. I think Prust is a perfect TDL chip. Contenders are always looking for character guys for a cup run.
- bloatedmosquito



Good role model for JV.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 6:01 PM ET
Benning so far hasn't traded any assets at TDL and he said last year , he wanted to give a chance to the players who got him to the playoff run .

So there is no certainty that Benning will move anyone if Canucks are close to making the playoffs.

- VANTEL

That was only his first year. Plus he's already traded Garrison/Kesler/Lack/Bieksa for picks/prospects. But I do agree that doing it at the TDL is better when picks aren't valued as highly and some teams are desperate for upgrades. I dint expect the Canucks to be sitting in the same position they were last year during the 2016 TDL so selling seems more likely.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 6:02 PM ET
Because we recoup a pick when we trade Prust at TDL, hopefully much higher than the 5th
- A_SteamingLombardi

Could have kept the 5 and traded Kassian at TDL for the pick
bazz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 1 @ 6:02 PM ET
Although it's fun to rip and speculate, why don't the pros wait until the season to write off the team. https://twitter.com/jtbou...status/616362302888091648

No one expected 101 points last year. If they fail to make the playoffs this year, I can see them moving a lot of pieces and getting lots of picks.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 1 @ 6:03 PM ET
Glad that we're your #2
- A_SteamingLombardi


Joe Jackson?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 1 @ 6:05 PM ET
Could have kept the 5 and traded Kassian at TDL for the pick
- VANTEL

Well apparently they tried to trade Kassian for 1/2 a season and didn't find a taker.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:05 PM ET
Could have kept the 5 and traded Kassian at TDL for the pick
- VANTEL

Reports are he tried but had no luck. He was out with a back injury as well.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 6:06 PM ET
That was only his first year. Plus he's already traded Garrison/Kesler/Lack/Bieksa for picks/prospects. But I do agree that doing it at the TDL is better when picks aren't valued as highly and some teams are desperate for upgrades. I dint expect the Canucks to be sitting in the same position they were last year during the 2016 TDL so selling seems more likely.
- Nucker101



Benning is making some very questionable moves. Like I said straight up Kassian for Prust should have been the deal. Canadiens would have got a top 6 player with size and cap relief. There was no read on to add the draft pick.

You of all should know about his questionable moves.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 1 @ 6:07 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun · 3m3 minutes ago
Pending trade call, Florida trades Jimmy Hayes to Boston for Reilly Smith


More purging by Sweeney
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 6:07 PM ET
Well apparently they tried to trade Kassian for 1/2 a season and didn't find a taker.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Other reports last year came out that Bruins had interst. I guess it boils down to who do you believe
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