So ur saying not adding the teams best player that season would have improved the team... Interesting.
- orienbrady22

Not necessarily but you can't say for sure. They finished higher in the standings the year before without Kessel. Just saying every move or non - move sets a different course for the future.

shannaplan presser starting
- MikeBabcock

Sounds like he's the GM

Kessel gets traded all of a sudden other fans love him

Kessel gets traded all of a sudden other fans love him

Sorry. My bad.

I thought being a draft whore, as you mentioned among your knocks, was a bad thing. I see bow that you're complaining about something you agree with..carry on!
- systemtool

It will really interesting in about 30 years if one these Leafs players write a book, to see what the culture was really like. All we have to go on is media speculation. It kinda feels like The late 70s Rangers, or how Phil Esposito described them anyway.

Just hope it isn't Bernier that pens it.

We can give phoenix a run for there money
- orienbrady22

If they trade Phaneuf and JVR maybe.

If they trade Phaneuf and JVR maybe.
- daeth

keep the talent, trade the scrubs

TML. Greatness. The essence of greatness.

Scott Wheeler@scottcwheeler · 16m16 minutes ago
The Leafs now have 11 picks in the #2016NHLDraft. Rounds: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, 7.
- The Shrike

should be able to get 3 or 4 more

Not necessarily but you can't say for sure. They finished higher in the standings the year before without Kessel. Just saying every move or non - move sets a different course for the future.
- Phenom

Butterflies and hurricanes, man. Deep.

TSN talking abut Kapanen not improving in two years, plays a permiter game. They love Harrington, except that he can't skate.



So typical Leafs.

Wings signed Brad Richards to a 1 year deal.

am I the only one who likes this trade?

am I the only one who likes this trade?
- poohcrumbs

I like it

am I the only one who likes this trade?
- poohcrumbs

I don't like this return.. But I guess that's what changing culture gets you?

Did my post actually say that? The deal is like a mirror image of Franson and Santorelli for Leipsic, 1st, and Jokinen, except someone forgot to tell the Leafs that Kessel is an elite scorer, multiple PPG/80 point seasons. He had a bad year. He's not the first to have a bad year.
- mykokes

Kapenen is much better than Liepsic...
Harrigton is now our best defensive prospect
1st round pick>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jokenin

move along now

am I the only one who likes this trade?
- poohcrumbs

I don't mind it due to the fact I didn't expect much more, aside from maybe a nice cap dump to flip at the deadline for more picks.

There were lots of factors working against us in negotiations.

TSN talking abut Kapanen not improving in two years, plays a permiter game. They love Harrington, except that he can't skate.



So typical Leafs.
- Aetherial

Kapanen is thought of as a top 6 player
Harrington is considered a 2nd pairing d

I don't mind it due to the fact I didn't expect much more, aside from maybe a nice cap dump to flip at the deadline for more picks.

There were lots of factors working against us in negotiations.
- Phenom

agreed

Ys, the conditions of the draft pick, and the salary retention are the sad realities of this trade. Might have been better to wait it out through free agency. If Phil was as big of a douche as he has been claimed to be, maybe they felt they had to jump ship ASAP... Still too many concessions IMO though...
- aminnes

By the end of Free Agency teams have spent their money. Looks like the Pens were the onl serious team. $0 retained always better but I'm not too worried about Pens not making playoffs one of the next two years

Not the biggest fan of the players involved, but glad that the Kessel gifs, the stupid Kessel fat jokes, the media and fan bashing can finally end. Oh and the rumours.

Kapanen is thought of as a top 6 player
Harrington is considered a 2nd pairing d
- ILoveLamp

Id put his 2 way game beside #44

how the (frank) am i the jerk...i'm being called all kinds of names and i'm the jerk?

tell me what i've said that's been offensive or derogatory...

and if it's about me continuing to have the kessel discussion...well...i thought that was the point of this site...you know...where you're allowed to have a different take on things.

that's fine...i'm outta here...enjoy Canada day folks.
- Pen15

Don't voluntarily come to an internet comment forum and complain if people are mean to you. Do something else. Go outside. Read a book. Calling everyone pimply 18 year olds only makes you look like the immature one. It's like people who who complain about what people post on Twitter - just don't follow them.

Kapanen is thought of as a top 6 player
Harrington is considered a 2nd pairing d
- ILoveLamp

Neither will make the NHL.

Kapenen is much better than Liepsic...
Harrigton is now our best defensive prospect
1st round pick>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jokenin

move along now
- Santo_44

I don't think Harrington's upside is very high.