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Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 15s16 seconds ago

Also told Toronto is eating between15-25% of Kessel contract.


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
TSN confirmed that 1st
- Tomahawk


So pens defense is
Letang-maata
Scuderi-lovejoy
Pouliot-?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
Now I can think favorably of the name Kapanen again.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
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Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 15s16 seconds ago

Also told Toronto is eating between15-25% of Kessel contract.



- Winning


That makes more sense
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:17 PM ET
So pens defense is
Letang-maata
Scuderi-lovejoy
Pouliot-?

- PhillySportsGuy


? = Kessel
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
That makes more sense
- Streit2ThePoint


I still want to know what you mean.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
i honestly don't know. i think the pens window has closed significantly, despite the likes of crosby, malkin and now kessel. maybe i'm wrong.
- hammarby31

You see how few mistakes you have to make to go from a perennial contender to 2 of 3 yrs out of the playoffs. You can still have two or three great players up front and fall all over yourself.

Toronto and the Pens are still dealing players to make the cap work. Spalling for a pick maybe.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 15s16 seconds ago

Also told Toronto is eating between15-25% of Kessel contract.



- Winning


Man.. Toronto had to do all that for that return?

You'd almost think that the Penguins didn't want Kessel and Toronto just had to trade him there.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
And another 5.75 in Fleury. Gonna be interesting. They D could be a big problem, and they haven't fixed their bottom 6 depth yet.
- wolfhounds



they have to be moving another contract I would think.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 15s16 seconds ago

Also told Toronto is eating between15-25% of Kessel contract.



- Winning


If true, still a $6mm plus salary/cap hit.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
Man.. Toronto had to do all that for that return?

You'd almost think that the Penguins didn't want Kessel and Toronto just had to trade him there.

- MikesPillBottle


there has to be more coming from Pitt.....right?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
i don't recall needing to put that information in
- funmaster18



you do now
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 13s13 seconds ago

As per @TSNBobMcKenzie, Penguins trade Spaling, Kapanen, Harrington and two picks to Leafs for Kessel and two other contracts...
Tomahawk
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Jul 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
So pens defense is
Letang-maata
Scuderi-lovejoy
Pouliot-?

- PhillySportsGuy


(frank) em.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
Problem for Toronto is that Pittsburgh were likely the only team strongly interested in Kessel.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 15s16 seconds ago

Also told Toronto is eating between15-25% of Kessel contract.



- Winning



does eating the contract also mean eating cap space?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
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Jul 1 @ 1:19 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 41s41 seconds ago

As per @TSNBobMcKenzie, Penguins trade Spaling, Kapanen, Harrington and two picks to Leafs for Kessel and two other contracts...
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:20 PM ET
Kessel might end up being a redundancy in Pitt. He's a top end talent but it seems like Pitt needed forward depth more. If Kessel can put up 40 goals next to Malkin for $8 million next year then Pitt is in a worse place than when they were paying James Neal $5 mil to do the same thing.

It might be good for them if they played Kessel with their 3rd liners in a creator role, but they'll probably just end up planting him next to Malkin or Crosby.

It's gonna suck to have Kessel working against us next year, but in the big picture I think this is a bad thing for the Penguins. Unless they trade for a 1st next year, the Pens will go 4 straight drafts and have no 1st round prospects to show for it. That's devastating for their future. Their last 1st round pick was Olli Maata in 2012, so thank god they like to throw their 1sts away.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:20 PM ET
does eating the contract also mean eating cap space?
- nastyflyergirl


Yes, they cover that % of the cap hit
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 1 @ 1:20 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 41s41 seconds ago

As per @TSNBobMcKenzie, Penguins trade Spaling, Kapanen, Harrington and two picks to Leafs for Kessel and two other contracts...

- Streit2ThePoint


what are these two other contracts?
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
what are these two other contracts?
- funmaster18


Phaneuf and Clarkson!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
Man.. Toronto had to do all that for that return?

You'd almost think that the Penguins didn't want Kessel and Toronto just had to trade him there.

- MikesPillBottle


Makes you wonder what sort of ball-ravaging venereal diseases Kessel has that made Toronto so desperate to get rid of him.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
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Jul 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
what are these two other contracts?
- funmaster18


Tomahawk
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
Problem for Toronto is that Pittsburgh were likely the only team strongly interested in Kessel.
- Feanor


Think it's a great trade for the Leafs -- 1st + Kapanen (1st) + a decent D prospect... that's a lot to get back for anybody, must less a guy who's a cancer AND an albatross.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:21 PM ET
what are these two other contracts?
- funmaster18


Lupul and ?
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