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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:42 PM ET
Gotta feeling Gagner was a fall back option if Hexy couldn't get a forward in free agency. He probably has an idea of the cost of someone like Frolik and decided to stay away. I wouldn't be surprised if Voracek gets extended before training camp.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
I'm still kind of holding out hope for Chris Stewart. I'm sure many of you aren't high on him and there might not even be a real fit but I like the guy. Toughness, gritty, might help the second unit on the PP.
- SuperSchennBros


I would also find Chris Stewart interesting but I would not give him more than 2 years. EK has the Flyers as a team interested in Justin Williams, at a bargain deal for 2 years he could bring experience and a winning attitude
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
I think he meant "a 7th" not "the 7th"
- mayorofangrytown

Correct.
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SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 30 @ 4:44 PM ET
Gotta feeling Gagner was a fall back option if Hexy couldn't get a forward in free agency. He probably has an idea of the cost of someone like Frolik and decided to stay away. I wouldn't be surprised if Voracek gets extended before training camp.
- ravishingone

It's hard to believe Gagner is a fall back option if Gagner is not only a better option than most of the players in Free Agency but if we haven't reached it yet.
SuperSchennBros
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Jun 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
I would also find Chris Stewart interesting but I would not give him more than 2 years. EK has the Flyers as a team interested in Justin Williams, at a bargain deal for 2 years he could bring experience and a winning attitude
- 3flyerkids

I'd also be fine with Williams but I'd prefer a younger Stewart that brings more grit to a team that could probably use it. We'll see though.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
Correct.
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- nails



Oh thank god. I thought you had lost your mind.
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:49 PM ET
I think Vinny is going to find a new home (likely Arizona or Nashville) after his roster 2 Million bonus is paid out. Then the Flyers sign one of Frolik or Williams as they are guys who can play in the top 9. I also expect Ryan White to be signed. Not sure who the back goalie target is...
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:50 PM ET
I would also find Chris Stewart interesting but I would not give him more than 2 years. EK has the Flyers as a team interested in Justin Williams, at a bargain deal for 2 years he could bring experience and a winning attitude
- 3flyerkids


i think stewart might cost more than hexy is willing to shell out
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:55 PM ET
Oh thank god. I thought you had lost your mind.

- MBFlyerfan

Well yes.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:59 PM ET
Good point someone made about gagner on the half wall on pp2

pp2 could look ok using same rolls

Giroux-gagner
Streit-MDZ
Voracek-coots
Simmonds-VDV
Schenn-raffl

aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:03 PM ET
Might be late, but Sandstrom and Lindblom at Sweden's WJC camp
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:04 PM ET
No worries

As to your point, I do think there is something to being in an organization/on a team that is expecting to win, as opposed to hoping you won't lose

I have no statistics, but I think once you become a perennial loser, it is really difficult to break out of that cycle

You can't win every year, but I do think you can lose many, many years if you are not careful in demanding the proper effort and excellence

- AllInForFlyers






It's about the environment that is created. Losing begets losing.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:08 PM ET

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Chicago and Columbus are working in a trade involving Brandon Saad. More to come.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:09 PM ET
No worries

As to your point, I do think there is something to being in an organization/on a team that is expecting to win, as opposed to hoping you won't lose

I have no statistics, but I think once you become a perennial loser, it is really difficult to break out of that cycle

You can't win every year, but I do think you can lose many, many years if you are not careful in demanding the proper effort and excellence

- AllInForFlyers


It's all about talent
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 30 @ 5:10 PM ET
brandon saad a blue jacket
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 30 @ 5:11 PM ET
brandon saad a blue jacket
- Winning



Interesting development.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:12 PM ET
brandon saad a blue jacket
- Winning

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Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:12 PM ET
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Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:14 PM ET
They not gonna feel the loss of the great Umburger
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 5:16 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 15s15 seconds ago

Morin, Tropp, Anisimov and Dano and 4th in 2016 for Saad, Paliotta and Alex Broadhurst. CBJ-CHI deal.
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benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:16 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Chicago and Columbus are working in a trade involving Brandon Saad. More to come.

- Winning


Why would cbj need saad? they have forwards up the ass.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 5:17 PM ET
Why would cbj need saad? they have forwards up the ass.
- benjichronic


Saad is really good and really young
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 30 @ 5:19 PM ET
Saad is really good and really young
- PhillySportsGuy

BJ gonna be a PO team
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:19 PM ET
Why would cbj need saad? they have forwards up the ass.
- benjichronic

Everyone needs a Saad
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 5:20 PM ET
I'm still kind of holding out hope for Chris Stewart. I'm sure many of you aren't high on him and there might not even be a real fit but I like the guy. Toughness, gritty, might help the second unit on the PP.
- SuperSchennBros


I'm not sure what the infatuation is with Stewart. He hasn't been a good player for 4 seasons ongoing. The Flyers need to add skill and speed. They don't need another plugger. They need to become a better 5 on 5 team. The PP is not the issue. He's not the right fit for this team.
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