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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:06 PM ET
Isn't 325k really high for ahl salaries?
- pker2theend


I think, back in the day, Jason King was guaranteed 900k or $1mil and ended up getting that in the ahl.

I guess it doesn't matter much if it doesn't count against the cap.

But yeah, that is a lot, I don't mind though, insurance on the farm.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 30 @ 4:07 PM ET
Number One - because Benning said it's not true they were offered anything from Edmonton for Lack. Number Two - because the difference between the 66th pick and the 57th pick is negligible if you think your guy will still be there and you move Lack out of the division.
- LeftCoaster


I just want to get this right, so what TSN analysts say is considered flagging material then and I can't ask the question on a forum, lol?

I'm just saying, not sure if I'm going to get flagged but here we go, is that we now see all the goalies traded this offseason and its seems like Vancouver received the worst return of all the teams, that's all. I know I'm not happy, wish Benning would have waited to trade him.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:07 PM ET
Isn't 325k really high for ahl salaries?
- pker2theend

He's a vet and Canucks Sports & Entertainment are rolling in $$$$$
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:08 PM ET
I just want to get this right, so what TSN analysts say is considered flagging material then and I can't ask the question on a forum, lol?

I'm just saying, not sure if I'm going to get flagged but here we go, is that we now see all the goalies traded this offseason and its seems like Vancouver received the worst return of all the teams, that's all. I know I'm not happy, wish Benning would have waited to trade him.

- allsports

flagged
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:08 PM ET
I just want to get this right, so what TSN analysts say is considered flagging material then and I can't ask the question on a forum, lol?

I'm just saying, not sure if I'm going to get flagged but here we go, is that we now see all the goalies traded this offseason and its seems like Vancouver received the worst return of all the teams, that's all. I know I'm not happy, wish Benning would have waited to trade him.

- allsports

no one is flagging you....they're just pissin around.
whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:09 PM ET
I just want to get this right, so what TSN analysts say is considered flagging material then and I can't ask the question on a forum, lol?

I'm just saying, not sure if I'm going to get flagged but here we go, is that we now see all the goalies traded this offseason and its seems like Vancouver received the worst return of all the teams, that's all. I know I'm not happy, wish Benning would have waited to trade him.

- allsports


Most likely due to the fact they had the worst goalie of all the teams
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:12 PM ET
I just want to get this right, so what TSN analysts say is considered flagging material then and I can't ask the question on a forum, lol?

I'm just saying, not sure if I'm going to get flagged but here we go, is that we now see all the goalies traded this offseason and its seems like Vancouver received the worst return of all the teams, that's all. I know I'm not happy, wish Benning would have waited to trade him.

- allsports

Sorry I forgot to answer your question or respond to your statement. Benning said flatout on TSN radio he was not offered a pick by Edmonton, they bantered some ideas around but never was a proposal put on the table...his words.

Also, Lack is very overrated as you can see by the advanced stats that are out there. He obviously wasn't viewed as a piece worth what some teams paid.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:14 PM ET
Hello Marwood,

What are your thoughts on the Eddie Lack trade?


- Nucker101



Psssst. Ask him about his thoughts on torts.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 30 @ 4:20 PM ET
no one is flagging you....they're just pissin around.
- LeftCoaster

lol
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:22 PM ET
I think, back in the day, Jason King was guaranteed 900k or $1mil and ended up getting that in the ahl.

I guess it doesn't matter much if it doesn't count against the cap.

But yeah, that is a lot, I don't mind though, insurance on the farm.

- hillbillydeluxe


Wasn't wade redden making $6.5M on the AHL?
Didn't he buy his AHL team a new bus?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:23 PM ET
I just want to get this right, so what TSN analysts say is considered flagging material then and I can't ask the question on a forum, lol?

I'm just saying, not sure if I'm going to get flagged but here we go, is that we now see all the goalies traded this offseason and its seems like Vancouver received the worst return of all the teams, that's all. I know I'm not happy, wish Benning would have waited to trade him.

- allsports

Sorry we thought you were nocups
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:25 PM ET
Wasn't wade redden making $6.5M on the AHL?
Didn't he buy his AHL team a new bus?

- bloatedmosquito

I played golf with him once, first time I'd met him, about hole six he completely lets out the biggest fart ever and laughs??? WTF dude...clean it up
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 30 @ 4:26 PM ET
Sorry we thought you were nocups
- A_SteamingLombardi


Someone should start a user name and avatar that says leafswillneversee4roundsofhockeyever.

allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 30 @ 4:27 PM ET
Sorry I forgot to answer your question or respond to your statement. Benning said flatout on TSN radio he was not offered a pick by Edmonton, they bantered some ideas around but never was a proposal put on the table...his words.

Also, Lack is very overrated as you can see by the advanced stats that are out there. He obviously wasn't viewed as a piece worth what some teams paid.

- LeftCoaster


Okay, so it's hard to say who to believe anymore as I've heard the guys on TSN and Sportsnet definitely say that there's lots of trades that don't get done because of one thing or another but that the GM's don't publicly say what was offerred, etc.

I know that Lack's advanced stats weren't great but Martin Jones stats were also poor and that's why I asked for the opinions of the forum. It's okay I've got the opinion it seems so we'll just see what happens with our new tandem in the new season.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:28 PM ET
Wasn't wade redden making $6.5M on the AHL?
Didn't he buy his AHL team a new bus?

- bloatedmosquito

It turns out to be cheaper to just give him some coke to take over the boarder.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:29 PM ET
Okay, so it's hard to say who to believe anymore as I've heard the guys on TSN and Sportsnet definitely say that there's lots of trades that don't get done because of one thing or another but that the GM's don't publicly say what was offerred, etc.

I know that Lack's advanced stats weren't great but Martin Jones stats were also poor and that's why I asked for the opinions of the forum. It's okay I've got the opinion it seems so we'll just see what happens with our new tandem in the new season.

- allsports

I, for one, am glad he's gone so we can develop Markstrom. Who I think has a higher upside than Lack.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:34 PM ET

- RealityChecker

Oh the humanity.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:38 PM ET
Lots of flagging going on in here.
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
I know some people don't like button but he said on tsn radio today that Boeser was one of the best goal scorers over the last few drafts. Absolutely loved the pick.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
I, for one, am glad he's gone so we can develop Markstrom. Who I think has a higher upside than Lack.
- LeftCoaster


Time will tell but I got a feeling Markstrom is not in the canucks future either. Stop gap until better arrives.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:42 PM ET
Lots of Lacking going on in here.
- thundachunk

Fixed
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
I know some people don't like button but he said on tsn radio today that Boeser was one of the best goal scorers over the last few drafts. Absolutely loved the pick.
- anavar


Yep

These guys take time to develop, have to expect most need time in the AHL. This Boeser guy sounds like he just needs more development and we'll have to wait and see.

Trying to be patient, but it is not much fun.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
Leaf fans are convincing themselves that Hodgson + Babcock will work.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
I, for one, am glad he's gone so we can develop Markstrom. Who I think has a higher upside than Lack.
- LeftCoaster

I have a pretty high regard for Lack but even still, I can't be that upset with the deal. I think he's getting better and did admirably well in his short time here.

As a rookie, he was able to endure (while inevitably breaking down) the circus that was the Torts era and still play 20ish consecutive games down the stretch. And I will repeat, as a rookie!

This past season was his sophomore season and while his positioning certainly drew some gasps from me (especially moving side to side), I still believe in him.

But it stops there. I don't care about his twittering and tweetering. His mom is a gem but that really doesn't phase me.

The Canucks had 3 goalies and needed to get rid of one. The choice was clearly Lack. I don't think Miller could (or want to) be moved. And I agree that Markstrom has better upside.

Therefore, he was put on the block where 29 other gm's had the opportunity to acquire him.

SJ/Buf may have overpaid for their goalies but that doesn't mean that you can create a market that isn't there. Other goalies were traded before and after Lack. Lack's value on the open market is not Benning's fault. In the words of noted philosopher Todd Bertuzzi, "it is what it is."
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Jun 30 @ 4:46 PM ET
I just want to get this right, so what TSN analysts say is considered flagging material then and I can't ask the question on a forum, lol?

I'm just saying, not sure if I'm going to get flagged but here we go, is that we now see all the goalies traded this offseason and its seems like Vancouver received the worst return of all the teams, that's all. I know I'm not happy, wish Benning would have waited to trade him.

- allsports

Flagged for questioning your flagging
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