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A_SteamingLombardi
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Jun 30 @ 2:43 PM ET
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- Nucker101

Fixed
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 2:44 PM ET
Fixed
- A_SteamingLombardi



Best forward in that draft, (frank)ing Flames lucking out with him and Hamilton.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 2:44 PM ET
I was a big WKRP fan as a kid. Not sure if you remember.

Jennifer dating the maintenance man named Steele. The introduction to Nessman.

I like to think a person's name speaks a lot about who they are, my name is Steele.

What is you name?

Les?

(or something like that)

- hillbillydeluxe

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 2:45 PM ET
Fixed
- A_SteamingLombardi

you forgot the "18 year old"
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:46 PM ET

- RealityChecker



Just an awesome show. (As long as they weren't getting preachy)

Bailey.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:47 PM ET
I was a big WKRP fan as a kid. Not sure if you remember.

Jennifer dating the maintenance man named Steele. The introduction to Nessman.

I like to think a person's name speaks a lot about who they are, my name is Steele.

What is you name?

Les?

(or something like that)

- hillbillydeluxe


Loved that show. Remember that episode well. Great show. Great opening song.

Big Bang Theory copied the joke using Leonard's name instead.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:51 PM ET


Best forward in that draft, (frank)ing Flames lucking out with him and Hamilton.

- Nucker101

I was crossing my fingers that he was part of the Hamilton deal. Can't handle the 1......9 year old sam bennett.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:57 PM ET



The 25-year-old Jones posted a 4-5-2 record in 15 games with the Kings last season, posting a .906 save percentage and a 2.25 goals-against average.


DA FAQ he gets a first rounder and a propsect while lack gets a third. Someone explain.
Nucker101
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Jun 30 @ 2:57 PM ET


A_SteamingLombardi
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Jun 30 @ 2:58 PM ET



- Nucker101


He thought it was gay porn as well
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
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Jun 30 @ 2:59 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi


JJ is the man, you're just jealous


Saw the edit... you (frank)er
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 30 @ 2:59 PM ET
On Cody Hodgson...

I am hearing he may be the #1 target for the Maple Leafs, who believe that Babcock and the OHL experienced crew in Toronto could get him back to the kind of can't miss prospect he once was. However, the Montreal Canadiens are also showing tons of interest and have liked Hodgson since he was in Vancouver. I heard they tried to trade for him when the Sabres picked him up.

- Eklund
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Jun 30 @ 3:00 PM ET
[quote=1970vintage]

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
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Jun 30 @ 3:01 PM ET
The 25-year-old Jones posted a 4-5-2 record in 15 games with the Kings last season, posting a .906 save percentage and a 2.25 goals-against average.


DA FAQ he gets a first rounder and a propsect while lack gets a third. Someone explain.

- pker2theend

1040 wants a riot
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
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Jun 30 @ 3:02 PM ET
JJ is the man, you're just jealous


Saw the edit... you (frank)er

- Nucker101

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
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Jun 30 @ 3:03 PM ET
The 25-year-old Jones posted a 4-5-2 record in 15 games with the Kings last season, posting a .906 save percentage and a 2.25 goals-against average.


DA FAQ he gets a first rounder and a propsect while lack gets a third. Someone explain.

- pker2theend


I think you are confused. Jones, along with the 13th pick and a high quality prospect were traded for Lucic. Jones didn't get a 1st in return.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 3:06 PM ET
I think you are confused. Jones, along with the 13th pick and a high quality prospect were traded for Lucic. Jones didn't get a 1st in return.
- 1970vintage


You're a bit behind these days, huh?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
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Jun 30 @ 3:07 PM ET
You're a bit behind these days, huh?
- Nucker101


I guess, did he get traded again?

Zhukenov drafted by QMJHL team, so hopefully we'll get to see him in NA this year.

edit - ah, I see. I guess there are at least two stupid GM's now...
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
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Jun 30 @ 3:08 PM ET
I guess, did he get traded again?

Zhukenov drafted by QMJHL team, so hopefully we'll get to see him in NA this year.

- 1970vintage

http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-...-jones-to-sharks-1.321957
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 30 @ 3:08 PM ET
You're a bit behind these days, huh?
- Nucker101


just waiting for the wtf moment...
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
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Jun 30 @ 3:11 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/bruins-trade-g-jones-to-sharks-1.321957
- pker2theend


Still doesn't make Lack worth more than a 3rd, who will be a UFA at the end of the season.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 3:12 PM ET
FYI It's clear that advanced stats are starting to creep into how goalies are viewed these days as well. Over the past 2 seasons, here's how the goalies that were traded ranked in save percentage on high quality shots(min 35 games started)

Martin Jones - 1st in the NHL
Cam Talbot - 4th in the NHL
Reto Berra - 9th in the NHL(he was shockingly traded for a 2nd)
Robin Lehner - 34th in the NHL(another sign BUF overpaid)
Eddie Lack - 45th in the NHL

Pending UFA Michael Neuvirth ranks 7th in the NHL so I can see why teams didn't pony up for Lack if they value these stats. Plus Lack is a pending UFA.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
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Jun 30 @ 3:12 PM ET
Still doesn't make Lack worth more than a 3rd, who will be a UFA at the end of the season.
- 1970vintage

Im sure Vancouver, or the team taking him could have signed him before he got traded.
stevekariya
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Gaud's Plan, BC
Joined: 09.19.2014

Jun 30 @ 3:13 PM ET
FYI It's clear that advanced stats are starting to creep into how goalies are viewed these days as well. Over the past 2 seasons, here's how the goalies that were traded ranked in save percentage on high quality shots(min 35 games started)

Martin Jones - 1st in the NHL
Cam Talbot - 4th in the NHL
Reto Berra - 9th in the NHL(he was shockingly traded for a 2nd)
Robin Lehner - 34th in the NHL(another sign BUF overpaid)
Eddie Lack - 45th in the NHL

Pending UFA Michael Neuvirth ranks 7th in the NHL so I can see why teams didn't pony up for Lack if they value these stats. Plus Lack is a pending UFA.

- Nucker101

Over at the Sharks board someone posted a chart of adjusted SA% with all the traded/UFA goalies this year. Lack ranked just a hair above Antti Niemi

edit: I evidently don't know my stats
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 3:14 PM ET
Over at the Sharks board someone posted a chart of that stat with all the traded/UFA goalies this year. Lack ranked just a hair above Antti Niemi
- stevekariya


That's probably regular save percentage. But my main point was that there's reason to believe that Lack is a goalie who's only as good as his team's defense is. He does get exposed when teams get high quality chances so maybe that hurt his value. Jones and Talbot thrived when facing high quality shots so perhaps GM's viewed them as having more natural talent and upside than Lack.

I'm only speculating of course.
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