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RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 2:14 PM ET
Yeah that transition to Nonis hurt. The best move that Nonis made Keenan actually made for him.
- whosyodaddy

if burkie is a poor man's pat quinn, nonis is the bargain basement version of rick ley.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 30 @ 2:14 PM ET
Anything? When Anderson went down with a concussion and then a knee injury Lehner did an excellent job filling in for him on a young Ottawa team.
- LeftCoaster

It's easier to play well when there are 2 teams in your division that are purposely tanking.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:15 PM ET
I'm breaking down yesterday's Canuck signings and our salary situation heading into UFA Day on Wednesday in the new blog.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...son-Test-Market/194/69669
whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:16 PM ET
Anything? When Anderson went down with a concussion and then a knee injury Lehner did an excellent job filling in for him on a young Ottawa team.
- LeftCoaster


He also lead Binghampton to the Calder cup with a .939 sv %
LeftCoaster
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Glendale AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 30 @ 2:17 PM ET
It's easier to play well when there are 2 teams in your division that are purposely tanking.
- A_SteamingLombardi

It was two years ago that that happened, not last year...FYI. Lehner himself had a concussion last year.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:19 PM ET
True, but when not even the guys who make lists that are a bit crazy have a guy like Senyshen rated as a first rounder then I'd say it's a long shot. Barzal and Connor are universally viewed as better prospects.

It's not even close to being the same as Hodgson vs Beach or Hodgson vs Kassian.

- Nucker101


What would be interesting is if someone could get the team lists of their rankings.

We have all these lists, some are generated by scouting groups, media, media compilations, bloggers averaging other lists out, etc...

Would love to see the 30 different lists of teams on how they ranked prospects through their own scouting departments. So many perspectives.


boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 30 @ 2:22 PM ET
My point was at times he was. Lehner has never done anything. All im saying I dont see how the sens got the first.
- mauryballstein


It's simple really. The sens had a goalie that at least 1 GM thought was worth it.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 2:23 PM ET
It's simple really. The sens had a goalie that at least 1 GM thought was worth it.
- boonerbuck


docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
We have been hearing lately how the Canucks passed on Beech to draft Hodgson, after a year or two, it looked like the Canucks made the right decision, now it looks like Hodgson may have not been the best choice either.

This drafting stuff takes a while to shake out before any conclusions should be reached. Very tricky business.

- hillbillydeluxe

At what point now can we say the Canucks won the Kassian/Hodgson trade? Not yet despite the buy out on Hodgson? I guess we'll have to see how this year pans out for Kassian.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
Yeah that transition to Nonis hurt. The best move that Nonis made Keenan actually made for him.
- whosyodaddy


I'll follow it up with also his best draft was immediately after Burke was released and Nonis admitted they stayed the course. It was bust city after that.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 30 @ 2:32 PM ET
At what point now can we say the Canucks won the Kassian/Hodgson trade? Not yet despite the buy out on Hodgson? I guess we'll have to see how this year pans out for Kassian.
- docmorgan


Hodgson being way overpaid shadows the fact he's been a better offensive player in his career. He left the Canuck's with a decent rookie year, holding the 3rd line and QBing the 2nd PP unit. He then goes to the Sabres and plays the 2nd line and finishes second in scoring. Following year he spends most of the time on the 1st line, finishes 1st in scoring iirc. Played for team Canada at the worlds...

His defensive game led to a melt down with Nolan and Hodgson's salary cannot be justified. For the same money as Kassian it doesnt look so bad. He also outlasted Nolan.

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:34 PM ET
At what point now can we say the Canucks won the Kassian/Hodgson trade? Not yet despite the buy out on Hodgson? I guess we'll have to see how this year pans out for Kassian.
- docmorgan


I think if Kassian contributes on a regular basis this season or is moved and we get assets back, I think we won that trade. But this is if Hogson doesn't have a bounce back season.

If Hodgson bounces back, it could be argued that Buffalo won the trade but mismanaged the asset.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:12 AM ET
At what point now can we say the Canucks won the Kassian/Hodgson trade? Not yet despite the buy out on Hodgson? I guess we'll have to see how this year pans out for Kassian.
- docmorgan


We both lost.
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