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LeftCoaster
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Glendale AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 30 @ 1:28 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger · 6m6 minutes ago
Sounds like a 6 yr extension coming in Calgary for Hamilton. #TSN


Wonder how much he's gonna cost?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:29 PM ET
Alex Biega announces he has re-signed with the #Canucks
- LeftCoaster

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:29 PM ET
Boston got 2 first round picks for Lucic

THAT's how you get return for your players

5 first rounders in 2 years is a nice retool.

- classic321


The Lucic trade was solid but trading a 22 year old top pairing dman for a bunch of hopefuls is not how to start a re-tool.
LeftCoaster
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Glendale AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 30 @ 1:29 PM ET
Boston got 2 first round picks for Lucic

THAT's how you get return for your players

5 first rounders in 2 years is a nice retool.

- classic321

Canucks had 4 in two years and 5 in three...just to be fair.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:29 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger · 6m6 minutes ago
Sounds like a 6 yr extension coming in Calgary for Hamilton. #TSN


Wonder how much he's gonna cost?

- LeftCoaster

Guessing it's going to be less than the 7.5M he wanted in Boston
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:29 PM ET
Yeah, the Lehner/Jones deals blow my mind. SJ especially might even finish in the bottom 10 again and there's a lottery now for the first 3 picks of the draft.

The Talbot and Lack deals were decent.

If the rumours are true about SJ offering their first year for Klein and Talbot then Wilson isn't going to last much longer in SJ. He's way too desperate. I assume Sharks ownership is also pushing for him to get them back into the playoffs since they spend a decent amount of money on the team and likely don't make much if they have zero playoff revenue.

- Nucker101

Wilson is only hurting his chances of being hired by another team in the future by some of these moves.

We all know he's a dead man walking.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:30 PM ET
If I ever met Dave Pratt, as a larger person who fought a lot in his junior days, I'd probably go to jail.
- LeftCoaster

I've met him, he's a bigger tool in real life. He, also, owes me from a bet I made with him when I was working at Gotham.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:30 PM ET
Yeah, the Lehner/Jones deals blow my mind. SJ especially might even finish in the bottom 10 again and there's a lottery now for the first 3 picks of the draft.

The Talbot and Lack deals were decent.

If the rumours are true about SJ offering their first year for Klein and Talbot then Wilson isn't going to last much longer in SJ. He's way too desperate. I assume Sharks ownership is also pushing for him to get them back into the playoffs since they spend a decent amount of money on the team and likely don't make much if they have zero playoff revenue.

- Nucker101



The proposed lack, Bieksa, 23rd pick for SJ 9th was actually a better offer than the deals San Jose ended up taking..... hard to believe!
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jun 30 @ 1:31 PM ET
Lehner is 23 and already developed farther than all of the goalies available. Upside is high. Lehner was better than Lack imo.
- thundachunk


Look at his numbers not even NHL caliber last season. At least lack has proven he can be a starter, not a great one but if you look at the overall body of work lacks last 2 seasons have been much better than lehner.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:32 PM ET
Yup.



It's not even going that slow. Garrison and Kesler were dealt and now it looks like Bieksa is gone. This is about as fast as it gets in the salary cap era. Anyone expecting 3 or 4 big trades in one summer is playing too much NHL 15 or just doesn't completely understand the NHL.

- Nucker101


mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jun 30 @ 1:34 PM ET
The Lucic trade was solid but trading a 22 year old top pairing dman for a bunch of hopefuls is not how to start a re-tool.
- Nucker101


Especially when you take a 2nd rounder with the first. Had they taken barzal or connor it wouldnt have been so bad to me. I just dont understand what the bruins are doing. Like trade every other player over the age of 25 if you wana rebuild/retool not your 22 year old top pairing guy.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:35 PM ET
Especially when you take a 2nd rounder with the first. Had they taken barzal or connor it wouldnt have been so bad to me. I just dont understand what the bruins are doing. Like trade every other player over the age of 25 if you wana rebuild/retool not your 22 year old top pairing guy.
- mauryballstein

Exactly. Even if he wanted out, get a better return than that..that was similar to what Griffin (frank)ing Reinhart ended up being traded for.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:38 PM ET
Please explain to me how Lack's value and what other GM's are willing to pay for him is JB's fault?

People have to realize that the likelihood that Benning is turning down 1st round picks for Lack because his heart is set on a 3rd and 7th is ridiculous.

edit: meant to quote someone else.

- boonerbuck


Who's saying that Benning is turning down 1sts?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:39 PM ET
Especially when you take a 2nd rounder with the first. Had they taken barzal or connor it wouldnt have been so bad to me. I just dont understand what the bruins are doing. Like trade every other player over the age of 25 if you wana rebuild/retool not your 22 year old top pairing guy.
- mauryballstein

Hamilton is a kid you build a future team around. I don't get it.
Jim_Robson
Vancouver Canucks
Location: GillisDestroyedOurTeam, BC
Joined: 04.02.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:39 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger · 6m6 minutes ago
Sounds like a 6 yr extension coming in Calgary for Hamilton. #TSN


Wonder how much he's gonna cost?

- LeftCoaster


I hope it's 10 mil per…

It looks like Zhukenov got picked up in the import draft but not Jasek.
whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:39 PM ET
The GM's around the league don't view Eddie Lack like the homers in Vancouver do - this is clear and painfully obvious.
- LeftCoaster


He has a lot of holes when he's moving and he moves a bunch. His game is just about the polar opposite of Schneider's.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 30 @ 1:39 PM ET
Look at his numbers not even NHL caliber last season. At least lack has proven he can be a starter, not a great one but if you look at the overall body of work lacks last 2 seasons have been much better than lehner.
- mauryballstein


Don't be bringing in facts and numbers. We are all homers. This is Tuesday!
LeftCoaster
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Glendale AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
I hope it's 10 mil per…

It looks like Zhukenov got picked up in the import draft but not Jasek.

- Jim_Robson

Reports are just a hair under 6 million per season.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:41 PM ET
I've met him, he's a bigger tool in real life. He, also, owes me from a bet I made with him when I was working at Gotham.
- Marwood

Was he wearing leather pants?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
Hamilton is a kid you build a future team around. I don't get it.
- thundachunk

No one does, not even their fans.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
(frank)in mind-boggling that people actually think SJ offered Benning this and he turned it down, or so they make it seem. SJ obviously weren't interested in Eddie Lack and neither was anyone else around the league except Carolina.
- LeftCoaster



This is all true but there are some GMs that have a reputation of being able to convince other GM'S they are getting a better deal than they actually are. The art of negotiation. Some have it, some don't.

You just hope the GM of your team has that ability.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
I hope it's 10 mil per…

It looks like Zhukenov got picked up in the import draft but not Jasek.

- Jim_Robson


I like both of those picks, nice to Benning go away from the Petit's and Stewart's this year. Very encouraging sign IMO.
whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
Alex Biega announces he has re-signed with the #Canucks
- LeftCoaster


Problems solved.
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
I hope it's 10 mil per…

It looks like Zhukenov got picked up in the import draft but not Jasek.

- Jim_Robson

nice, was hoping zhuks would. Not as worried about Jasek
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
Reports are just a hair under 6 million per season.
- LeftCoaster


Steal. First a great trade and now a great contract.
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