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whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 12:41 AM ET
I hope so... The dolphins have got rid of a lot of older players and are finally building through youth.... one team down; one to go... but unfortunately the canuck owners are as stubborn as my avatar.
- MrMagoo


They still need some help on the O-line. I was pretty pissed they didn't use a late pick on Collins.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 12:41 AM ET
Hypothetically speaking....trading the twins to say the Islanders for picks and prospects would really jumpstart your rebuild in a big way and you'd get off that middleling road to nowhere.

I think you can re-tool be on the fly, but you've gotta have some down years in there and draft really well outside of the first two rounds.

- LeftCoaster

You can't trade the twins for picks and prospects. A significant amount of salary has to come back. Even in their last year and traded at the deadline, their hypothetical new team would have to absorb approximately 7m in real salary combined for the rest of the season.

You have to remember that they represent approximately 20% of the cap. In my view, they are virtually untradeable (with a small chance in their last year.)
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 12:44 AM ET
Yes I think they are declining, I didn't say they're poop players. They're in fact still very good player. But declining, however slight, none the less.

Trading Miller gets you nothing. If you want to actually improve, trade the twins.

- LeftCoaster


Can you trade the twins? Even if they could be convinced to waive, no small feat in itself, they would likely want to go to a contender and they would for sure want to go together. I can't see it happening. Not that I would be opposed. I would like the assets coming back and I would like to see them win a cup which they won't do here.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 30 @ 12:45 AM ET
Hypothetically speaking....trading the twins to say the Islanders for picks and prospects would really jumpstart your rebuild in a big way and you'd get off that middleling road to nowhere.

I think you can re-tool be on the fly, but you've gotta have some down years in there and draft really well outside of the first two rounds.

- LeftCoaster


If the twins go anywhere it will be to Fla. They have a lot of money invested in horses down there. Racing horses is their passion. Fla make too much sense.

TBO I think they retire canucks.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 12:47 AM ET
Can you trade the twins? Even if they could be convinced to waive, no small feat in itself, they would likely want to go to a contender and they would for sure want to go together. I can't see it happening. Not that I would be opposed. I would like the assets coming back and I would like to see them win a cup which they won't do here.
- CubanBuffet

This is pretty much my thinking as well.
MrMagoo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: 2004 Aquilini Way
Joined: 06.28.2015

Jun 30 @ 12:50 AM ET
They still need some help on the O-line. I was pretty pissed they didn't use a late pick on Collins.
- whosyodaddy


O-line is a work in progress (10 years now). I don't expect much from either team when it comes to drafting; I want to see some creativity at the draft table, but I think we are asking too much. this last weekend was pretty much what i expected.
whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 12:50 AM ET
If the twins go anywhere it will be to Fla. They have a lot of money invested in horses down there. Racing horses is their passion. Fla make too much sense.

TBO I think they retire canucks.

- bloatedmosquito


I wouldn't be surprised to see them sign a one year deal or two for small money at the end.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 12:51 AM ET
This is pretty much my thinking as well.
- RealityChecker


It's just another factor that makes the Canucks roster one of the most inflexible in the league. Generally when a team is in our position you can trade your best players, but our best players are a two for. Not to shlt on the Sedins, but it would be nice to have the option.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 30 @ 12:51 AM ET
If the twins go anywhere it will be to Fla. They have a lot of money invested in horses down there. Racing horses is their passion. Fla make too much sense.

TBO I think they retire canucks.

- bloatedmosquito


stay n skool




rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:54 AM ET
Welcome to the sh!t show
- LeftCoaster


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4roJq6gJ-Zc
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 12:57 AM ET
It's just another factor that makes the Canucks roster one of the most inflexible in the league. Generally when a team is in our position you can trade your best players, but our best players are a two for. Not to shlt on the Sedins, but it would be nice to have the option.
- CubanBuffet

The only option is to waive them
MrMagoo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: 2004 Aquilini Way
Joined: 06.28.2015

Jun 30 @ 12:57 AM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4roJq6gJ-Zc
- rugdnit





thanks... that's funny. I do enjoy following you guys (and have for years as I said)... I will comment from time-to-time, but I will sit back a lot and read.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 12:57 AM ET
The only option is to waive them
- RealityChecker


I'm steering clear of that vortex.
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 30 @ 1:00 AM ET


thanks... that's funny. I do enjoy following you guys (and have for years as I said)... I will comment from time-to-time, but I will sit back a lot and read.

- MrMagoo



Probably alot safer that way.

I am guilty of it myself as well from time to time, but people are looking to rip you.

Just a word of caution... Please don't mention practice.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:01 AM ET
I'm steering clear of that vortex.
- CubanBuffet

whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:02 AM ET

- RealityChecker

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:04 AM ET

- whosyodaddy

whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:07 AM ET

- RealityChecker


It has a funny way of happening. You can go months.......then bam.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 30 @ 1:18 AM ET
just curious, why do you talk in point form?
- anavar


Depends on the topic n avoiding a wall of text.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 30 @ 1:20 AM ET
Can't afford the cap space of bieksa at start of season. Benning would be a failure of a gm to keep him
- Retinalz


U cannot dump on JB for MG's contracts.
Bieksa has value n he will be moved when a deal is there.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:45 AM ET
stay n skool





- boonerbuck


Where did that guy come from?

Besides, I'm too cool for skool.
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:53 AM ET
Flagged.
- Marwood



His point #1 was definitely flag worthy.
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:56 AM ET
You can't trade the twins for picks and prospects. A significant amount of salary has to come back. Even in their last year and traded at the deadline, their hypothetical new team would have to absorb approximately 7m in real salary combined for the rest of the season.

You have to remember that they represent approximately 20% of the cap. In my view, they are virtually untradeable (with a small chance in their last year.)

- RealityChecker



EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:57 AM ET
They still need some help on the O-line. I was pretty pissed they didn't use a late pick on Collins.
- whosyodaddy


You'll never get anywhere with Tannehill man.
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:57 AM ET
I'm steering clear of that vortex.
- CubanBuffet

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