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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 8:30 PM ET
I'm guessing DW he has a rep for being difficult.
- thundachunk


Essentially throwing JB under the bus then? What we do know is KB was house hunting DW also knew this, if he waited until the bottom of the 9th to drop that on JB, he is a POS and you either tell him to (frank) off, jack up the price and insist for a prospect and/or pick. Failing that we trade him Markstrom for a 5th & 7th next year.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 29 @ 8:31 PM ET
Essentially throwing JB under the bus then? What we do know is KB was house hunting DW also knew this, if he waited until the bottom of the 9th to drop that on JB, he is a POS and you either tell him to (frank) off, jack up the price and insist for a propect and/or pick. Failing that we trade him Markstrom for a 5th & 7th next year.
- VanHockeyGuy


Wilson is known for being a jackass. That one is not on Benning.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 29 @ 8:31 PM ET
As teams around us get better this season and we fall, old core will start waiving to move on. JB can make his intentions known to them now by simply not signing anyone but some cheap depth after moving a old contract.
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 29 @ 8:32 PM ET
Essentially throwing JB under the bus then? What we do know is KB was house hunting DW also knew this, if he waited until the bottom of the 9th to drop that on JB, he is a POS and you either tell him to (frank) off, jack up the price and insist for a propect and/or pick. Failing that we trade him Markstrom for a 5th & 7th next year.
- VanHockeyGuy


What's weird is that if Benning and co. were really pissed, they wouldn't have talked trades again yet the McNally trade happened. Either the "Canucks are pissed" thing is overblown or just speculation or Benning is a very forgiving guy who doesn't hold grudges.
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 29 @ 8:33 PM ET
Wilson is known for being a jackass. That one is not on Benning.
- LordHumungous

I thought jackass GM's can never make trades though, Wilson seems to make a few...
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 29 @ 8:33 PM ET
Petition signed.
- Marwood

Awesome - hopefully we can drum that clown off the radio.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 8:33 PM ET
Wilson is known for being a jackass. That one is not on Benning.
- LordHumungous


Hope that's true, I'm not entirely sold on his GM skills yet.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:34 PM ET
Looks like you got some bites today. Congrats.


- EagleNuck

It's not a chironomid but it works.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 8:35 PM ET
What's weird is that if Benning and co. were really pissed, they wouldn't have talked trades again yet the McNally trade happened. Either the "Canucks are pissed" thing is overblown or just speculation or Benning is a very forgiving guy who doesn't hold grudges.
- EagleNuck


Feck that.
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 29 @ 8:35 PM ET
Feck that.
- VanHockeyGuy


Well it has to be one or the other..
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:39 PM ET
Well it has to be one or the other..
- EagleNuck

Of course it's speculation by some media idiots on twitter, Benning never said he was "pissed"
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 29 @ 8:40 PM ET
Of course it's speculation by some media idiots on twitter, Benning never said he was "pissed"
- A_SteamingLombardi




docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 29 @ 8:42 PM ET
U gotta believe the Aquillinis send down a mandate to TL.
That being a playoff contender.
TL n JB both work under that mission goal hence a retool.
So far last year produced results.
JB hired WD n started his vision off n then made roster changes.
Vrbata signing indicated JB's skill n judgement on UFA's.
Dorsett n Richardson were further examples.
Vey n Sven n Clendenning dealt with depth issues that we lacked with nothing in Utica that was helping soon other than Corrado.

Upcoming season will prolly be both interesting n not playoff bound.
A good time for the transition process to show progress.
The 2-3 yrs with NTC's expiring n good prospects seasoned n ready look bright.
It won't get the nob totally done but 2-3yrs much can change n prospects will boom or bust n dictate where we stand.
Much work yet to do n changes be ongoing but 2-3yrs is a long time to see the New Canucks on ice.

- Nighthawk

Try rhyming the last words in alternating lines - more effective in poem writing
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 8:45 PM ET



- EagleNuck



I think JB got played. The way this turns out is a good measure of his skills.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 29 @ 8:52 PM ET
Now he gets to work face to face with Rollie, let's see what happens.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I thought he had been working with him for a while now.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 29 @ 8:53 PM ET
I thought jackass GM's can never make trades though, Wilson seems to make a few...
- EagleNuck


I think Wilson being the 'veteran' was trying to pull a fast one on the rookie GM JB and JB told him to shove it up his ass. Probably changed the deal at the last minute like Nonis did in the Lou deal to TO.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:56 PM ET
I thought he had been working with him for a while now.
- docmorgan

He's been working with Cloutier
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 9:02 PM ET
I think Wilson being the 'veteran' was trying to pull a fast one on the rookie GM JB and JB told him to shove it up his ass. Probably changed the deal at the last minute like Nonis did in the Lou deal to TO.
- LordHumungous


Could very well be, I would hope so for JB. If KB goes somewhere else it's pretty well confirmed.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:03 PM ET
He's been working with Cloutier
- A_SteamingLombardi

Well I hope they at least inflated the beach balls correctly.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 29 @ 9:05 PM ET
Still don't know who dropped the ball on the KB deal JB or DW?
- VanHockeyGuy


Based on the information leaked out, and also using common sense (i.e. it was always going to be a 2nd rounder for Bieksa straight up and there were no other negotiating 'intricacies' involved), you've got to believe it was Wilson that nixed the deal at the last moment. If that was the case, I too would be pissed off, especially given that the Canucks focus was on moving up via the trade and they had worked on this deal for some time (according to sources and even some of the comments made by Benning).

As someone pointed out, maybe it was Wilson trying to take advantage of a rookie GM and hence not worried about the fall out. Sh*tty move if that's the case
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 9:06 PM ET
Sharks agree to five-year deal with Brenden Dillon at about 3.2 per, so unlikely KB signs a 3 year at 12 mil. Well played Mr. Wilson well played.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 29 @ 9:06 PM ET
Well I hope they at least inflated the beach balls correctly.
- docmorgan

Cloutier taught him to ignore the beachballs and concentrate on pucks
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 9:11 PM ET
Based on the information leaked out, and also using common sense (i.e. it was always going to be a 2nd rounder for Bieksa straight up and there were no other negotiating 'intricacies' involved), you've got to believe it was Wilson that nixed the deal at the last moment. If that was the case, I too would be pissed off, especially given that the Canucks focus was on moving up via the trade and they had worked on this deal for some time (according to sources and even some of the comments made by Benning).

As someone pointed out, maybe it was Wilson trying to take advantage of a rookie GM and hence not worried about the fall out. Sh*tty move if that's the case

- Zogg


Then SJ is the last place I want to see KB.
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:27 PM ET
Cash?
- LordHumungous


Come down to San Jose and watch the media rushes for yourself.

The guys love it down here. No pressure and a good life.

I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:38 PM ET
nice info man! seems like you're great at digging up information.

can you tell me when the last time the nucks won a cup was?

i've been checking several sites but i just cant seem to find any indication that they won one. thanks in advance!

- sensnucksnocups



Here's a hint... Johnny Bower and Tim Horton were alive


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