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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:08 AM ET
i think mackenzie and button are mjl and tomahawk
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 10:09 AM ET
I agree it's just tough to see your leading goal scorer 2 straight years on the third line. Even though bulk of his goals come on pp.
- Tfaehner


So why not try Schenn-Couturier-Simmonds? Let Read and Couturier stay together on the PK, and use Read on the 3rd?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 10:09 AM ET
why is nothing happening isn't today rfa day ?
- -davies-


Qualify offers have to be tendered today, to retain RFA rights. Any non tendered RFA hits UFA market
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:11 AM ET
Supposedly a lot of team very interested in Frolik, he's going to get a premium. Might end up getting ovr $5mm...at that price, no interest
- Jsaquella


I wouldn't mind Hextall giving a contract to an older FA, if it was only for one year. Flexibility for 16-17 is key with Voracek, Couturier, BSchenn and Raffl all needing new deals.

Maybe Glencross would take a one year deal at $4m? He gets a big pay raise in exchange for less security, and the Flyers get a stopgap LW who will be gone by next summer.

http://www.generalfanager.com/players/1937
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 10:11 AM ET
i think mackenzie and button are mjl and tomahawk
- JoeRussomanno


What a bunch of blowhards.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:12 AM ET
What a bunch of blowhards.
- Tomahawk

Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
Supposedly a lot of team very interested in Frolik, he's going to get a premium. Might end up getting ovr $5mm...at that price, no interest
- Jsaquella


Yeah, Soderberg set the market for middle-6 versatile forwards. I really liked him as a player, but damn! Frolik, too.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
I wouldn't mind Hextall giving a contract to an older FA, if it was only for one year. Flexibility for 16-17 is key with Voracek, Couturier, BSchenn and Raffl all needing new deals.

Maybe Glencross?

- Feanor


I think Glencross is spent.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
I wouldn't mind Hextall giving a contract to an older FA, if it was only for one year. Flexibility for 16-17 is key with Voracek, Couturier, BSchenn and Raffl all needing new deals.

Maybe Glencross?

- Feanor


Not against a short term deal to a vet, agree that flexibility is vital for the new deals. I think they have a couple of moves left, in terms of trades.
kellyblaise7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Haddon Township, NJ
Joined: 07.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
God I wish Vinny is off the squad. Ganger is young, hungry, and determined to prove he belongs in the league. Where as Vinny is old and could give 0 f@cks about playing here.

I know cap issues make these types of decisions hard, but I really don't see a reason why Ganger can't be in your bottom 6 in a nightly basis.

- MatveiDmitrii


God doesn't answer wishes...now get down on your knees and pray!!!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
Yeah, Soderberg set the market for middle-6 versatile forwards. I really liked him as a player, but damn! Frolik, too.
- Tomahawk


Belesky already turned down a $4mm x 4 year deal from the Ducks, he's gunning for $5mm+, too.
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
I love listening to Hexy talk -- dude just gets it. Sounds like they really liked Kase:

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 10:15 AM ET
God doesn't answer wishes...now get down on your knees and pray!!!
- kellyblaise7


Damn right. At the beginning of time, he came up with a plan for eternity. And now you want him to change his plan just because Holmgren gave a guy a bad contract? Seems pretty selfish.

/adapted from Mr. Carlin.
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 10:15 AM ET
Belesky already turned down a $4mm x 4 year deal from the Ducks, he's gunning for $5mm+, too.
- Jsaquella


It's like Bryan Bickell never happened.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 10:17 AM ET
It's like Bryan Bickell never happened.
- Tomahawk


But the Blackhawks won again!!
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:18 AM ET
I think Glencross is spent.
- Streit2ThePoint


He could well be. Maybe Fleischmann would be better... it's slim pickings at LW this year.

http://www.generalfanager...hoots=Both&team=all&UFA=1
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 10:19 AM ET
But the Blackhawks won again!!
- Jsaquella


Haha touche.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:22 AM ET
He could well be. Maybe Fleischmann would be better... it's slim pickings at LW this year.

http://www.generalfanager...hoots=Both&team=all&UFA=1

- Feanor


Yeah not too many out there
kellyblaise7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Haddon Township, NJ
Joined: 07.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:23 AM ET
Damn right. At the beginning of time, he came up with a plan for eternity. And now you want him to change his plan just because Holmgren gave a guy a bad contract? Seems pretty selfish.

/adapted from Mr. Carlin.

- jmatchett383

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:24 AM ET
Damn right. At the beginning of time, he came up with a plan for eternity. And now you want him to change his plan just because Holmgren gave a guy a bad contract? Seems pretty selfish.

/adapted from Mr. Carlin.

- jmatchett383

speaking of which how different would the flyers universe have been if they drafted hamilton?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 29 @ 10:27 AM ET
The discrepancies in his skating ability certainly is puzzling.



Agreed. The last thing we need is another mediocre skater

- DaveofYork



In this case, I will go with the OHL Coaches Poll and the Flyers scouts, who had more viewings.

griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:29 AM ET
In this case, I will go with the OHL Coaches Poll and the Flyers scouts, who had more viewings.
- bmeltzer

Bill do you think he could be a mark recchi type of player he reminds me of recchi a little bit
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jun 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
speaking of which how different would the flyers universe have been if they drafted hamilton?
- JoeRussomanno


He would've been traded for a past his prime vet years ago because that filled an immediate need and the Flyers didn't rebuild, they reloaded - every freaking offseason under Holmgren.

There's something to be said for wanting to win, there's something else, much less pleasant to be said for having the worst farm system in the entire NHL on a regular basis.

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 10:34 AM ET
He would've been traded for a past his prime vet years ago because that filled an immediate need and the Flyers didn't rebuild, they reloaded - every freaking offseason under Holmgren.

There's something to be said for wanting to win, there's something else, much less pleasant to be said for having the worst farm system in the entire NHL on a regular basis.

- Flyers_01

well the only youngster they traded in the years since that draft was jvr so you maybe erroneous in your thought process, sir.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:35 AM ET
I sent time watching Gagner highlights and also some random Coyotes games from last season. He didn't stand out as either good or bad, but given the weak FA class, and the prices that it seems guys like Belesky and Frolik are getting, hanging onto Gagner and giving him a one year audtion is the way to go.

I'm off the fence, might as well keep him. Worst case he sucks and is gone in a year. If he plays well and demands too much for an extension, trade him for picks at the TDL. If he agrees to a friendly deal and fits in, you got a solid player for cheap. Might as well see what he can do in a year where they're not likely to contend

- Jsaquella


Scott Laughton in my opinion still has a lot to prove within the top 9. I already had interest in Nazim Kadri but Sam Gagner would be as good within the same role. For me it's a no brainer to keep Gagner. What I'd like to know is, can the Flyers make any changes on July 1st as it stands?
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