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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:04 PM ET
The coverage makes NBC look like Waynes World. The graphics, the scroll of picks along the bottom.

- MBFlyerfan


Watched that on the NHL Network replay yesterday
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 6:09 PM ET
Kessel the goat
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:14 PM ET

- Vukota


I'm not going to lie. I'm a little upset you guys got him. I have a feeling he's going to be a good one
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:16 PM ET
So the return at this point on trading Timonen and Coburn is Travis Konecny, Matej Tomek, Radko Gudas, and a 2016 2nd rounder.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:18 PM ET
So the return at this point on trading Timonen and Coburn is Travis Konecny, Matej Tomek, Radko Gudas, and a 2016 2nd rounder.
- JAKEw1234


Not too bad at the moment...........time will tell how it really looks in a few years.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 29 @ 6:19 PM ET
The hits keep coming. This GM has a plan and is executing it. No one's perfect, but compared to the last 3-4 yrs of his predecessor, Hextall is running a boldly efficient operation.

Meanwhile a veritable clown show has raised it's tent in Boston.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:20 PM ET
So I've been insane in real life.
Draft picks
Grossmann traded I loved the big man. I'll miss him.
Rinaldo traded give Hextall a kiss! This almost makes up for the Umberger trade (or not).
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 29 @ 6:20 PM ET
I guess the guy with the rinaldo account wont comeback here
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:22 PM ET


So the return at this point on trading Timonen and Coburn is Travis Konecny, Matej Tomek, Radko Gudas, and a 2016 2nd rounder.
- JAKEw1234


Pretty good haul.

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 6:22 PM ET
So I've been insane in real life.

- FlyersGrace

3flyerkids
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:23 PM ET
So I've been insane in real life.
Draft picks
Grossmann traded I loved the big man. I'll miss him.
Rinaldo traded give Hextall a kiss! This almost makes up for the Umberger trade (or not).

- FlyersGrace


Just imagine IF he were to get Vinny shipped out of here as well.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:28 PM ET
The hits keep coming. This GM has a plan and is executing it. No one's perfect, but compared to the last 3-4 yrs of his predecessor, Hextall is running a boldly efficient operation.

Meanwhile a veritable clown show has raised it's tent in Boston.

- isaiah520


If this team goes on in the next few years to become a contender, they could not have done it without some of the key moves, and key players that Holmgren obtained to build a foundation for Hextall to work with.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 29 @ 6:28 PM ET
As much as I like the Rinaldo trade for the return, I can see him, in true former flyer form, absolutely destroying us physically when we play the Bruins
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 6:31 PM ET
As much as I like the Rinaldo trade for the return, I can see him, in true former flyer form, absolutely destroying us physically when we play the Bruins
- aflyerpower8

Oh that's pretty much a given.

1. He'll knock somebody the (frank) out with a clean hit, more than likely an important peace to the team.

2. He'll end up scoring a GWG on the Flyers.

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:31 PM ET
For anyone who wants to relive our 1st-round picks from a slightly different perspective (Sportsnet)




- Tomahawk


Thanks. It's nice to see a different perspective. No worries from them about Konecny's skating.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:33 PM ET
so technically, they lost cap space from the grossman vs gagner deal
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:36 PM ET
Thanks. It's nice to see a different perspective. No worries from them about Konecny's skating.
- Feanor


Sam Cosentino is the one at the far right of the panel to the left of Damien Cox he does the color for sportsnet for all the junior games they broadcast. Solid guy & good opinions. His TV partner is RJ Broadhead I'd take both of them to call games over our current group.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 6:37 PM ET
Anyone hear anything on Del Zorro
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:38 PM ET
so technically, they lost cap space from the grossman vs gagner deal
- nails



No, they didn't. Technically, they gained a bunch. Some of it is only cap space gained for the off season, versus the playing season. Losing Pronger helps them greatly with off season flexibility.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:39 PM ET
No, they didn't. Technically, they gained a bunch. Some of it is only cap space gained for the off season, versus the playing season. Losing Pronger helps them greatly with off season flexibility.
- MJL

not counting pronger.
just looking at grossman vs gagner as active players
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:43 PM ET
not counting pronger.
just looking at grossman vs gagner as active players

- nails


Okay, looking at it that way, they kept 500K for Grossman, and took on 3.2M for Gagner. They lose 3M for Grossmann, so with just that, they took on 700K.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:43 PM ET
Anyone hear anything on Del Zorro
- Winning


WHY IS THERE NO NEWS ABOUT RFAS
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:44 PM ET
WHY IS THERE NO NEWS ABOUT RFAS
- -davies-


Because there is nothing to report?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:44 PM ET
WHY IS THERE NO NEWS ABOUT RFAS
- -davies-


Deadline is tomorrow I believe.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:45 PM ET
Okay, looking at that way, they kept 500K for Grossman, and took on 3.2M for Gagner. They lose 3M for Grossmann, so with just that, they took on 700K.
- MJL

i don't think it's actually that bad.
grossman was 3.5
they got back a 3.2 and retained .5
so just .2M?
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