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jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:21 PM ET
does anybody else have that feeling of doom? I mean we freed up cap space...does that mean we are gutting our team to take on kessel or phenuef or....gulp both!!!! I m just use to stupid crap like this.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:21 PM ET
does anybody else have that feeling of doom? I mean we freed up cap space...does that mean we are gutting our team to take on kessel or phenuef or....gulp both!!!! I m just use to stupid crap like this.
- jmdodgeser4

Hextall != Holmgren
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:22 PM ET
Do you have any documentation that the Flyers have signed more players to 7+ year contracts than any other team in the league?
- MJL



Chicago has 4 right now IIRC.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 4:23 PM ET
does anybody else have that feeling of doom? I mean we freed up cap space...does that mean we are gutting our team to take on kessel or phenuef or....gulp both!!!! I m just use to stupid crap like this.
- jmdodgeser4


I don't think so, but who knows?

At least we have these last few days -- I mean, seriously

We know it's a new era if the Flyers keep a player like Sam Gagner for a season while jettisoning Zac Rinaldo
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 29 @ 4:23 PM ET
does anybody else have that feeling of doom? I mean we freed up cap space...does that mean we are gutting our team to take on kessel or phenuef or....gulp both!!!! I m just use to stupid crap like this.
- jmdodgeser4



I think its much worse than that.


I think we're freeing up all this cap space, putting the Flyers financial house in order for the first time since the salary cap era began, loading up on draft picks and home grown talent and THE (frank)ING WORLD IS ABOUT TO COME TO A CATACLYSMIC END.

Thats what I think.

Its probably time for me to start drinking again.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:26 PM ET
Chicago has 4 right now IIRC.
- MBFlyerfan



They do, and the also have Crawford signed to a 6 year deal. Seabrooke may Be next.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
Anyone think he is doing all of this for a massive trade??

L Schenn, Sanheim, Laughton, Read

for

Weber
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
Guys I hacked into Hextall's iPhone:


- Jsaquella


at the fact that he signs his texts "Hexy".
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:29 PM ET
Won't be shocked to see Vinny head to the desert once his bonus installment is paid on Wednesday by the Flyers.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:29 PM ET
I think its much worse than that.


I think we're freeing up all this cap space, putting the Flyers financial house in order for the first time since the salary cap era began, loading up on draft picks and home grown talent and THE (frank)ING WORLD IS ABOUT TO COME TO A CATACLYSMIC END.

Thats what I think.

Its probably time for me to start drinking again.

- Doc_Sarcasm


Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:29 PM ET
I think its much worse than that.


I think we're freeing up all this cap space, putting the Flyers financial house in order for the first time since the salary cap era began, loading up on draft picks and home grown talent and THE (frank)ING WORLD IS ABOUT TO COME TO A CATACLYSMIC END.

Thats what I think.

Its probably time for me to start drinking again.

- Doc_Sarcasm



What exactly does that mean though, having their financial house in order? I don't want to be a team that has holes in it's lineup, while having unused cap space. Having that cap space is nice, what you do with it, is the key.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
Much better to have to sign guys to one day contracts in the midst of a playoff race than have unused cap space...
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
Anyone think he is doing all of this for a massive trade??
- Jimmygrazz


No.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:32 PM ET
The Lucic deal was fine -- maybe they retained a little too much salary, but the return was ok

But the Hamilton deal was straight garbage, everyone knows it

No one knows for certain how draft picks are gonna go, but they certainly didn't do themselves any favors with the fans by going off the board twice in three picks

- AllInForFlyers

I actually liked all three of their picks, it was the "in the first round" that was the issue. No way do you take Senyshyn that high I loved every time I saw that guy play for the Soo. He was buried a little on that team but he's still a second rounder. They could easily have traded back and grabbed additional picks and still gotten DeBrusk. That organization completely froze/panicked when the AZ pick fell through I think.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
Anyone think he is doing all of this for a massive trade??

L Schenn, Sanheim, Laughton, Read

for

Weber

- Jimmygrazz

Only if its part of a three way tarde for Robby Byan
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:37 PM ET
Bruins haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Hexy
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:37 PM ET
So what's with this Richards ordeal and stop bullpoopting me there's no way the Bruins traded a 3rd for Rinaldo
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:39 PM ET
Isn't next year's draft deep too? Bruins may be even worse next year. That pick could be like 65-75. Nice work
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:41 PM ET
Dear Ron,

I want to have your baby.

-Signed a creepy guy on the internet
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 29 @ 4:41 PM ET
Just under 22% of all third rounders chosen 1995-2006 had even a modest NHL career.

Yes, even a small chance like that is better than nothing, but it's not highway robbery from that perspective.

To me the magic is that ZR is someone else's problem, and frankly, I'd have been happy with zero return.

- Scoob


That just means he gets to lay hits on Flyers now...
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 4:41 PM ET
I actually liked all three of their picks, it was the "in the first round" that was the issue. No way do you take Senyshyn that high I loved every time I saw that guy play for the Soo. He was buried a little on that team but he's still a second rounder. They could easily have traded back and grabbed additional picks and still gotten DeBrusk. That organization completely froze/panicked when the AZ pick fell through I think.
- mayorofangrytown


That's what it felt like, like they didn't have a feel for how their draft board could be manipulated because they acquired the picks and then felt they had to use them

Like you said: it's not that the guys are bad players; they are prospects

But if a guy is a consensus late first or second-rounder, you have to have the courage to slide back a bit, if not all the way, to where reasonable projections have the player going

Not only do you acquire more assets, but you give yourself more time to assess what the (frank) you are doing
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
Dear Ron,

I want to have your baby.

-Signed a creepy guy on the internet

- coffee junkie

hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
So what do we think, the 2018-19 season Rinaldo scores a backbreaking playoff goal against Philly en route to a Stanley Cup?
- eayost


Book it, or takes off Giroux's head to end his career.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
So what's with this Richards ordeal and stop bullpoopting me there's no way the Bruins traded a 3rd for Rinaldo
- Giroux_Is_God

http://www.nhl.com/ice/ne...772868&navid=nhl:topheads

Official
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:43 PM ET
So what's with this Richards ordeal and stop bullpoopting me there's no way the Bruins traded a 3rd for Rinaldo
- Giroux_Is_God


I'm just used to the Flyers giving up something like a 3rd to a team for taking a player like Rinaldo
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