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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:41 PM ET
Stoll is a pending UFA and plead out to two misdemeanors to avoid the felony charge.
- Jsaquella


Plead out, eh?

/scribbles in notepad
//adjusts tin foil hat
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:42 PM ET
Because, the CBA says they can terminate the deal if he fails, neglects or refuses to follow the team's rules governing training and conduct.

Doesn't specify that all team rules have to apply to the entire team.

- Jsaquella


Correct.
But I would think that you could head down the "unreasonable" expectations road if no one else on the team is required to do all their off seasons on site.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
THE RINALDO ERA HAS ENDED
- BulliesPhan87


nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
Bruins

But hey, thanks for the help!
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
Flyers acquire a 3rd round pick for....drum roll.....Rinaldo
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
I cancel my suggestion to nominate Hextall for Jesus. Let's just go with God
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
Rinaldo traded to Boston for a 3rd!
- Jsaquella


Hextall.... you magnificent bastard!!!!!
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
THE RINALDO ERA HAS ENDED
- BulliesPhan87



whoa
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
Because, the CBA says they can terminate the deal if he fails, neglects or refuses to follow the team's rules governing training and conduct.

Doesn't specify that all team rules have to apply to the entire team.

- Jsaquella



My thing would be that if conditioning was the reason then why not suspend him before or during the season for failure to follow the team rules. He played 53 games so the conditioning couldn't have been that big of a factor.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
If it is for conditioning I would hope they have a whole lot of metrics with goals, targets, results, etc.

Imho, it's not conditioning. As you say, doing so opens up a huge can of worms that will get teams out of cap trouble in a real hurry.

- Scoob


That's it, exactly -- I always wondered how they were so comfortable saying that Richards' conditioning was so off

I mean, we all know that some guys have come into camp out of shape before, and that there are physicals and things

But are there actual numbers that he/others have to meet? Like timed runs, or complete a set number of laps at a specific time?

Would something like that be player-specific? Like, would a skater like Wheels, who is slow, be expected to meet the same kinds of standards as a guy like, say, Michael Grabner?

Fascinating -- we might really et some interesting insight into how hockey players are graded internally
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
It's a 2017 3rd rd pick?
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
Rinaldo traded to Boston for a 3rd!
- Jsaquella


A THIRD??????? ROFLMAO SWEEEENEEEEYY
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
Correct.
But I would think that you could head down the "unreasonable" expectations road if no one else on the team is required to do all their off seasons on site.

- nails


It's dirty ass pool, no matter how it's sliced. They could simply have a guy that sets training guidelines for individual players and make it a rule that they have to be followed
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
Did I really just read that Rinado got a 3rd rounder?

Luke has to be worth a 1st now
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
Wow, whodathunk Zac was worth a 3rd round pick? Shane Gostibehere was a third round pick.

Hexy is a flat out thief. He should be investigated by the league.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
Rinaldo traded to Boston for a 3rd!
- Jsaquella


you gonna be dancing naked in the streets AGAIN???
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
Flyers acquire a 3rd round pick for....drum roll.....Rinaldo
- nastyflyergirl


That seems high, no?

I'll take it, but still. A 3rd round pick seems like a nice little return for a guy we can't stand.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
My thing would be that if conditioning was the reason then why not suspend him before or during the season for failure to follow the team rules. He played 53 games so the conditioning couldn't have been that big of a factor.
- J35Bacher


I get that, it's dirty pool if that is the reason. But If I had a window to avoid paying him $22mm, I'd be tempted to try it
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
THE RINALDO ERA HAS ENDED
- BulliesPhan87



Is everyone F@CKING happy now!!

No more Rinaldo talk.


P.S. I actually neverminded him that much. Just thought it was funny how much talk he got on here.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
A THIRD??????? ROFLMAO SWEEEENEEEEYY
- Tomahawk


Is it to late to pitch Amac to them as a replacement for Hamilton?
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
I cancel my suggestion to nominate Hextall for Jesus. Let's just go with God
- Jsaquella


-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 3:45 PM ET


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
A THIRD??????? ROFLMAO SWEEEENEEEEYY
- Tomahawk


Whatever Don Sweeney is drinking, keep giving it to him.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
I get that, it's dirty pool if that is the reason. But If I had a window to avoid paying him $22mm, I'd be tempted to try it
- Jsaquella

no doubt.
good for them if it works
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:46 PM ET
Is everyone F@CKING happy now!!

No more Rinaldo talk.


P.S. I actually neverminded him that much. Just thought it was funny how much talk he got on here.

- J35Bacher


That is a good point.

We lost a whipping boy today. We're going to have to replace RinaldoBuzz with something else.
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