Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
Jun 29 @ 2:09 PM ET
Chasing big name free agents each year and spending to the cap and not making the playoffs is one thing
Missing them when your GM states he is building from within with young players and picks is another. I give Hextall this season to really put his stamp in the team. - PhiFaninEdm
im not implicating hextall im implicating holmgren.
no. the flyers wanted that dman that the rangers took just ahead of them. Giroux was not the player th eflyers wanted with that first pick - jmdodgeser4
I didn't say that Giroux was the top player on their board before the Rangers picked. Doesn't change anything, Holmgren still made the call on Giroux, and he still ran the draft that year.
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
Jun 29 @ 2:10 PM ET
That's actually the point I was hoping you'd make. Islanders were positioned to grab Boychuk and Leddy because they had room under the cap to seize on the opportunity.
Hexy should be smart enough not to blow all this newfound breathing room on guys like Kessel and Phaneuf... lay in the weeds and wait for the RIGHT guy, not the first guy that fits a fraction of the criteria. - Tomahawk
On this point I can agree. I really hope the "ooooh shiny" mentality has worn off.
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
Jun 29 @ 2:10 PM ET
That's actually the point I was hoping you'd make. Islanders were positioned to grab Boychuk and Leddy because they had room under the cap to seize on the opportunity.
Hexy should be smart enough not to blow all this newfound breathing room on guys like Kessel and Phaneuf... lay in the weeds and wait for the RIGHT guy, not the first guy that fits a fraction of the criteria. - Tomahawk
thank u!!! bingo!!! i dont know why this such a hard concept to grasp!
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
Jun 29 @ 2:12 PM ET
If the Flyers had Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrooke, and Hjamlmarsson, I would not advocate signing Mark Streit. The fact of the matter is that they don't have those players. What you call foresight and risk management is not a fact. Your entire premise is based on Streit breaking down, while ignoring the other possibility, that he won't. - MJL
yea and your ignoring the fact we dont need him at all, and could be biding time with abundant capspace in case a number 1 becomes available.
but why even have him to begin with?! look at how a kid like hamilton became available. No (frank)ing body on this board saw that coming. wouldnt you say not having streits salary against the cap would make it easier for the flyers to have a chance at picking up such a player? - JoeRussomanno
Flyers could probably trade Striet, or other players to make the cap space to add Hamilton, if they were in the hunt to acquire that player.
yea and your ignoring the fact we dont need him at all, and could be biding time with abundant capspace in case a number 1 becomes available. - JoeRussomanno
No I'm not ignoring anything. I'm saying it's not a fact that we don't need him, only an opinion. I'm still waiting for a reasonable argument to support why we don't need him.
im glad you guys can tolerate missing the playoffs with old mediocre players in the 5th wealthiest market in the league. - JoeRussomanno
So you want Hextall to repeat the same mistakes of previous Flyers GMs? Go old and win now at all costs? It's going to take time to fix the damage Holmgren did.
cause its a wasteof cap space. he doesn't make you better in the short or longterm. yea he got 96 points since he's been passing the puck to giroux and voracek... wow great. - JoeRussomanno
I disagree, Streit has absolutely made the Flyers a better team, then if they didn't have him.
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Jun 29 @ 2:16 PM ET
If the Flyers had Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrooke, and Hjamlmarsson, I would not advocate signing Mark Streit. The fact of the matter is that they don't have those players. What you call foresight and risk management is not a fact. Your entire premise is based on Streit breaking down, while ignoring the other possibility, that he won't. - MJL
If they had hjarjarbinkssons I'd still be ok with signing Streit
That's actually the point I was hoping you'd make. Islanders were positioned to grab Boychuk and Leddy because they had room under the cap to seize on the opportunity.
Hexy should be smart enough not to blow all this newfound breathing room on guys like Kessel and Phaneuf... lay in the weeds and wait for the RIGHT guy, not the first guy that fits a fraction of the criteria. - Tomahawk
You would've been okay with giving Boychuk a 7 year deal for 6M a year?
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
Jun 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
So you want Hextall to repeat the same mistakes of previous Flyers GMs? Go old and win now at all costs? It's going to take time to fix the damage Holmgren did. - jstross
The team needs to be wiped clean of all the Holmgren blunders.
Striet, Simmonds, B Schenn, Couturier, Voracek, Mason, Getting rid of Richards. What a joke. Total failure in every way.
The team needs to be wiped clean of all the Holmgren blunders.
Striet, Simmonds, B Schenn, Couturier, Voracek, Mason, Getting rid of Richards. What a joke. Total failure in every way. - MBFlyerfan
I loved the first moves to deal Carter and Richards. Just hate trading away picks all the time. The rebuild should've start a few years ago, but they went all in to make the playoffs.
Streit has absolutely made this team better since he has arrived and if we traded him tomorrow, we would absolutely be a worse team. Aside from his point production, Streit has been a great locker room guy and leader for this team and leads by example each game he's out there. Probably one of the more ideal veteran guys you would want around for these young prospects we have coming up in the near future. Even though he could be traded and bring us more assets, which is even more of a plus to have him.
I don't think Gagner staying would make it too much harder for Laughton to make the NHL. I think if we keep him, the intention will be to use him on the wing. At this point, assuming we resign MDZ and hoping we resign VV and Zepp, a possible depth chart would be
Shultz-Streit
Del Zotto-Schenn
Medvedev-MacDonald
Manning
Mason
Zepp - JAKEw1234
NO. Coots is not a 2nd line center. Hasn't shown it yet and Im not risking it this year either. He belongs on the third line and b schenn needs to be at 2c. Both these centers need to be evaluated this year and see if they are mean to stay in a flyers uniform in a contract year. Fill in the wingers as need be with the three centers g,b schenn, coots. they only one I can see trading right now is coots as laughton would be the replacement on skillset .
yea and your ignoring the fact we dont need him at all, and could be biding time with abundant capspace in case a number 1 becomes available. - JoeRussomanno
NO. Coots is not a 2nd line center. Hasn't shown it yet and Im not risking it this year either. He belongs on the third line and b schenn needs to be at 2c. Both these centers need to be evaluated this year and see if they are mean to stay in a flyers uniform in a contract year. Fill in the wingers as need be with the three centers g,b schenn, coots. they only one I can see trading right now is coots as laughton would be the replacement on skillset . - jmdodgeser4
He has to be forced into that position know. You cant shove him in a defensive role and expect scoring. Give hin 2nd line duties with skilled players. An injured Umberger and a struggling Matt Read are not going to help his numbers. Not only that, what has Schenn shown that Coots hasn't?
NO. Coots is not a 2nd line center. Hasn't shown it yet and Im not risking it this year either. He belongs on the third line and b schenn needs to be at 2c. Both these centers need to be evaluated this year and see if they are mean to stay in a flyers uniform in a contract year. Fill in the wingers as need be with the three centers g,b schenn, coots. they only one I can see trading right now is coots as laughton would be the replacement on skillset . - jmdodgeser4
How else do you find out if he is or not, without giving him opportunities that a 2c would get? You also realize he's only 22 right? And that he's played stellar shutdown d his whole nhl career? And how about the fact that he's been hampered with defensive responsibilities his whole career?? The flyers need to give him a chance to show that he can be a #2 center and he hasn't had that chance yet. It is unfair for any of us to say 100% that he's not #2c material.
