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benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:45 PM ET
what the (frank) is with the ads of the half naked Chinese chick with her tatas hanging out??? First it was naked robots, now it's half naked cartoon chicks....
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:46 PM ET
There is a very long list of guys I'd rather see in the lineup over Rinaldo
Laughton
Cousins
White
VDV
Leier
the zamboni driver
the ice girls

edit: hell, even Umberger

- BiggE


OK, you crossed the line
I was ok up to the Zamboni driver and the ice girls
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:47 PM ET
I don't think Gagner staying would make it too much harder for Laughton to make the NHL. I think if we keep him, the intention will be to use him on the wing. At this point, assuming we resign MDZ and hoping we resign VV and Zepp, a possible depth chart would be

Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Couturier-Gagner
Read-Laughton-Simmonds
Umberger-VandeVelde-Bellemare
Lecavalier

With Rinaldo in the AHL.

Shultz-Streit
Del Zotto-Schenn
Medvedev-MacDonald
Manning

Mason
Zepp
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:47 PM ET
what the (frank) is with the ads of the half naked Chinese chick with her tatas hanging out??? First it was naked robots, now it's half naked cartoon chicks....
- benjichronic

I get 3 Beneful ads...
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:48 PM ET
If they don't buyout Gagner, I have to think that there is an agreement in place with VLC to terminate on July 2nd.
- BiggE


I am delving into all current and obscure religions and the occult to influence the termination to happen. Rain dance, incense, painting the body blue ( stonehenge reference- from the movie King Arthur) whatever it takes.
Hire the terminators body double to influence Vinny...

I am even looking at Greek and Egyptian mythology for this....
Watching old versions of the 300 Spartans and the Ten Commandments

Would you donate some aged scotch as a sacrifice for the cause....
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:49 PM ET
Wonder how long Oduya stays an FA
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
Yeah.

That was all contingent on him growing up and becoming a professional hockey player. Which is a round the clock 365 day a year job if you want to stay successful. Richards has never been what you call a gym rat or a fitness freak, which kind of sucks because his best friend Carter is both of those things.

Richards career is most likely over because it was his own fault, no one else's.

- MBFlyerfan



I personally think that Richard's career has stalled is far more due to desire than to fitness. He was never a fitness freak, as you alluded to, and never a highly gifted player in terms of skill or skating. His sheer will made him the player he was. I think winning all the championships he did, has left him without much desire to play the game.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
what the (frank) is with the ads of the half naked Chinese chick with her tatas hanging out??? First it was naked robots, now it's half naked cartoon chicks....
- benjichronic



I get audible.com ads. Its probably tailored to our search habits. What the heck are you searching boy!?


JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:51 PM ET
what the (frank) is with the ads of the half naked Chinese chick with her tatas hanging out??? First it was naked robots, now it's half naked cartoon chicks....
- benjichronic

The ads use behavioral targeting, theyre based on your internet usage

Disabling cookies might help
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:52 PM ET
I personally think that Richard's career has stalled is far more due to desire than to fitness. He was never a fitness freak, as you alluded to, and never a highly gifted player in terms of skill or skating. His sheer will made him the player he was. I think winning all the championships he did, has left him without much desire to play the game.
- MJL



And you don't think that maintaining a high fitness level is paramount when factoring in desire? They are one in the same as far as I am concerned.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:55 PM ET
And you don't think that maintaining a high fitness level is paramount when factoring in desire? They are one in the same as far as I am concerned.
- MBFlyerfan



I don't see them as the same. Richards was never a workout demon even when he was playing at a high level as a Flyers. I think fitness is a part of it, because as you get older, it becomes more important. I think the biggest factor is he just doesn't want it as bad anymore, and it's not as important to him now. I'm speculating that he is happy with what he has accomplished, and feels that he doesn't have anything else left to prove. He'd rather enjoy life in the Summer, at his lakeside cottage then to work out every day.


The biggest problem is that he had a talk with his GM, and may have made some promises to Lombardi, that he didn't follow through on.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:55 PM ET
Also, it'd be cool if Dillabough could handle NHL goaslie coach and development coach. Imagine years down the line, if one of our prospects becomes our starter (or even our backup). Dillabough will know that goalie down to the creases of his palms. It'd potentially be amazing for goalie-goalie coach chemistry.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:59 PM ET
I don't see them as the same. Richards was never a workout demon even when he was playing at a high level as a Flyers. I think fitness is a part of it, because as you get older, it becomes more important. I think the biggest factor is he just doesn't want it as bad anymore, and it's not as important to him now. I'm speculating that he is happy with what he has accomplished, and feels that he doesn't have anything else left to prove. He'd rather enjoy life in the Summer, at his lakeside cottage then to work out every day.
- MJL


Meanwhile Vinny is frothing at the mouth to get on the ice. So much so that he's willing to give up multimillions just to do so
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:59 PM ET
I don't think Gagner staying would make it too much harder for Laughton to make the NHL. I think if we keep him, the intention will be to use him on the wing. At this point, assuming we resign MDZ and hoping we resign VV and Zepp, a possible depth chart would be

Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Couturier-Gagner
Read-Laughton-Simmonds
Umberger-VandeVelde-Bellemare
Lecavalier

With Rinaldo in the AHL.

Shultz-Streit
Del Zotto-Schenn
Medvedev-MacDonald
Manning

Mason
Zepp

- JAKEw1234


Gudas will probably be in the lineup. Definitely going to be interesting how the defense pans out. Especially if one of Morin/Sanheim/Ghost make it out camp
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 29 @ 1:01 PM ET
Gudas will probably be in the lineup. Definitely going to be interesting how the defense pans out. Especially if one of Morin/Sanheim/Ghost make it out camp
- Streit2ThePoint

Right, oops. If Schenn stays I think Gudas will start out of the top 6 but will rotate into it very often. If Schenn goes he'll be top 6 no doubt
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 29 @ 1:03 PM ET
Right, oops. If Schenn stays I think Gudas will start out of the top 6 but will rotate into it very often. If Schenn goes he'll be top 6 no doubt
- JAKEw1234


I think Schenn or MacDonald will be gone by opening day.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Also, it'd be cool if Dillabough could handle NHL goaslie coach and development coach. Imagine years down the line, if one of our prospects becomes our starter (or even our backup). Dillabough will know that goalie down to the creases of his palms. It'd potentially be amazing for goalie-goalie coach chemistry.
- JAKEw1234


Too much to ask, IMO. Flyers will need him on-ice daily with the NHL goalies, in press box for games, in locker room. etc. When he is supposed to, say, fly to Sweden to check in with Sandström? Already pushes the goalie coach to have him working with the Phantoms guys on top of NHL ones.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Morin - Streit
Gudas - Del Zotto
Medvedev - Schultz
Manning
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
what the (frank) is with the ads of the half naked Chinese chick with her tatas hanging out??? First it was naked robots, now it's half naked cartoon chicks....
- benjichronic


I guess they take money from anyone. Makes it real tough to browse from work (which is completely okay here).
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
Morin - Streit
Gudas - Del Zotto
Medvedev - Schultz
Manning

- Streit2ThePoint


What did we get in return for Schenn and MacDonald. Did we retain any salary?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
Too much to ask, IMO. Flyers will need him on-ice daily with the NHL goalies, in press box for games, in locker room. etc. When he is supposed to, say, fly to Sweden to check in with Sandström? Already pushes the goalie coach to have him working with the Phantoms guys on top of NHL ones.
- bmeltzer


Teleportation.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
what the (frank) is with the ads of the half naked Chinese chick with her tatas hanging out??? First it was naked robots, now it's half naked cartoon chicks....
- benjichronic

great search history
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
I guess they take money from anyone. Makes it real tough to browse from work (which is completely okay here).
- Scoob


Do people not use AdBlock anymore?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
What did we get in return for Schenn and MacDonald. Did we retain any salary?
- steelydan


Snider got life in prison for gunning them down
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:17 PM ET
Meanwhile Vinny is frothing at the mouth to get on the ice. So much so that he's willing to give up multimillions just to do so
- Just5



It remains to be seen what Lecavalier is willing to give up.
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