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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:14 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC · 9m9 minutes ago
Hodgson is 1/3rd not 2/3rd because he is under 26.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:15 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger · 3m3 minutes ago
Buff - Hodgson and Nsh-Stallberg on unconditional waivers for buy out. Richards, Fistric, and Parenteau cleared and will be bought out.


- LeftCoaster


No surprise.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:17 PM ET

- LeftCoaster

I hated the pick when he made it. I've already come around by looking at some videos and such. Time to grow into something great. Gives that 1-2 RW punch with JV for years to come. All hope.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:19 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC · 9m9 minutes ago
Hodgson is 1/3rd not 2/3rd because he is under 26.

- LeftCoaster

So our options for 4th line centre are
Someone within the organization
Cody Hodgson
Jim Slater
Eric Fehr
Brad Richardson
Mike Richards
Brad Richards
Antonie Vermette
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:20 PM ET
If no players are moved by July 2nd, there wont be any moves until Oct. Per Botchford.

IMO these guys should get moved this week...

Bieksa (must)
Vrbata
Higgins

We go to camp with essentially the same core if no moves happen soon.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:22 PM ET
So our options for 4th line centre are
Someone within the organization
Cody Hodgson
Jim Slater
Eric Fehr (first)
Brad Richardson
Mike Richards (second)
Brad Richards
Antonie Vermette

- manvanfan

pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:23 PM ET
Who's going to be fighting today?
- Marwood

You looking at me bro? Got something to say? You wanna go?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:25 PM ET
You looking at me bro? Got something to say? You wanna go?
- pker2theend

do you even lift bro?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:26 PM ET
If no players are moved by July 2nd, there wont be any moves until Oct. Per Botchford.

IMO these guys should get moved this week...

Bieksa (must)
Vrbata
Higgins

We go to camp with essentially the same core if no moves happen soon.

- VanHockeyGuy

Somebody has to be moved. We just don't have the space and after seeing last year how it went, things have to change at least a bit.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:28 PM ET
The best thing for this team would be to miss the play offs this season, and force management to trade assets away for picks at the TDL.

Trade Vrbata
Trade Bieksa (if he's here, and maybe another dman, Hamhuis)
Trade Burrows
Trade Miller

- moondawg


TDL!!

vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:29 PM ET
You looking at me bro? Got something to say? You wanna go?
- pker2theend

I dont even think Scoob was in on it yesterday. That would have taken it to a whole new level.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:33 PM ET
So our options for 4th line centre are
Someone within the organization
Cody Hodgson
Jim Slater
Eric Fehr
Brad Richardson
Mike Richards
Brad Richards
Antonie Vermette

- manvanfan


There has to be some trade options too. I know we want pics, but there is a chance they bring that 4th line c in via trade.

Lots of time for something to happen, or not.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:34 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger · 3m3 minutes ago
Buff - Hodgson and Nsh-Stallberg on unconditional waivers for buy out. Richards, Fistric, and Parenteau cleared and will be bought out.


- LeftCoaster


That's unbelievable. Obviously canuck management knew there was something wrong with this kid. So much potential and promise.

Well, the hodgson's got their money. I guess that's all that matters.
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 29 @ 12:36 PM ET
If no players are moved by July 2nd, there wont be any moves until Oct. Per Botchford.

IMO these guys should get moved this week...

Bieksa (must)
Vrbata
Higgins

We go to camp with essentially the same core if no moves happen soon.

- VanHockeyGuy


There's a reason why so few 30+ players haven't been traded for league-wide since the draft. During the off-season everyone wants to get younger/faster/bigger but at the TDL the contenders just want to load up at any reasonable cost. Vrbata will still be highly regarded if you play him with the Sedins again and he scores another 25-30 goals.

A guy like Higgins is so hard to sell during this time of the year but would draw interest at the TDL like Bergenheim.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:40 PM ET
CapFriendly ‏@CapFriendly · 3m3 minutes ago
what's interesting about the Cody Hodgson buyout is that the Sabres can get a $458,333 credit towards the cap in year 2018-19. #CapFriendly

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:46 PM ET
Somebody has to be moved. We just don't have the space and after seeing last year how it went, things have to change at least a bit.
- manvanfan


Those 3 would get assets and free up the $ we need.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:54 PM ET
Those 3 would get assets and free up the $ we need.
- VanHockeyGuy


I think Bieksa has to be gone, they talk about lame duck coaches, this will be a distraction until he is dealt.

Vrbata and Higgins, I can see gone at tdl if they are out of the race. They should move Higgins asap, if they can get any sort of 3rd pick for him.

Wouldn't mind missing the playoffs and acquiring picks. Youngsters a year older, a year closer to becoming nhlers.

I am still surprised we didn't take a dman in the first round. Time will tell.

Gonna be a long hot summer around here.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
I think Bieksa has to be gone, they talk about lame duck coaches, this will be a distraction until he is dealt.

Vrbata and Higgins, I can see gone at tdl if they are out of the race. They should move Higgins asap, if they can get any sort of 3rd pick for him.

Wouldn't mind missing the playoffs and acquiring picks. Youngsters a year older, a year closer to becoming nhlers.

I am still surprised we didn't take a dman in the first round. Time will tell.

Gonna be a long hot summer around here.

- hillbillydeluxe



Actually It may not be a distraction...Bieksa isn't a tool like Lou and Kesler were. He doesn't 'want' out technically so I think it will be ok until he is gone.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
Done - https://www.change.org/p/...team-1040-fire-dave-pratt
- docmorgan

Nice work!!
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
Done - https://www.change.org/p/...team-1040-fire-dave-pratt
- docmorgan



I will give my life savings for this!!!
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
Actually It may not be a distraction...Bieksa isn't a tool like Lou and Kesler were. He doesn't 'want' out technically so I think it will be ok until he is gone.
- LordHumungous


Yeah, Bieksa isn't Kesler, but when you have been asked if you'd waive and you already went to SJ to look at homes.... You start clearing out the closets, cleaning up the garage and rest of the house.

Would guess he would have the feeling he is waiting for the other shoe to drop.

It might not be as bad as it was with Kesler or Lu, but he won't have any interest in re-signing here... move him asap.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
You looking at me bro? Got something to say? You wanna go?
- pker2theend
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Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Jun 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
Yeah, Bieksa isn't Kesler, but when you have been asked if you'd waive and you already went to SJ to look at homes.... You start clearing out the closets, cleaning up the garage and rest of the house.

Would guess he would have the feeling he is waiting for the other shoe to drop.

It might not be as bad as it was with Kesler or Lu, but he won't have any interest in re-signing here... move him asap.

- hillbillydeluxe



Pressure is on San Jose if they can't get any D via Free agency. They currently only have Burns, Braun, Vlasic, Dillon and Mueller. That's a pretty weak D. If i'm Benning I make San Jose Pay if they strike out during free agency.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 29 @ 1:20 PM ET
Wasn't Gillis accused of waiting too long for something better?
- bloatedmosquito


Yes, he was. Luongo, Schneider and Kesler all asked to be moved and were worth much more than Bieksa is in the beginning. Gillis also waited seasons not days.

Missing on a 2nd and getting a 3rd on a washed up asset like Bieksa is hard to compare imo. The risk is not at the same level at all.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 29 @ 1:20 PM ET



Think how much Bieksa would be worth at the trade deadline



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