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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Draft Day—Eddie Lack Gone, Jacob Markstrom Era Begins
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 28 @ 2:37 PM ET
Miller 911 SV% 253 GAA 34 years old 6 mil salary
Lack 921 SV % 245 GAA 27 years old 1.15 salary

Sorry I don't just make these things up

- VANTEL


He did not beat him out of a job. You can post stats but he did not take Miller's job from him. Stop with the spinning and Lying Vantel... it's getting fkn old.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 2:38 PM ET
The gloves are off (and I agree with that last statement by Booner)
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 28 @ 2:39 PM ET
Like I said I am in no way a Lack fan, but we kept the older slower more expensive goalie, and it doesn't surprise me at all. That is fact .

Goalie controversy is nothing unusual in this city. Benning gave Miller a bad contract and could not move it in the end so here we are.

Just have to wait a few more years until another bad contract runs out

- VANTEL


The controversy is strictly from fans like you who thrive in the "end of the world" panic.

Benning is just managing his goalies. There was no need to keep Lack. It shouldnt be a controversy but you damn sure put all your effort into making it one.
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
Millers adjusted save percentage was actually slightly better, adjusted sv% is a more accurate measurement of their ability to save the puck. It takes into account where shots come from as some are obviously more difficult to save than others.

Millers adjusted save percentage in the 0 to 10 foot range was actually quite high where Lacks was down in the .800's. That's where most of the goals are scored.

- LeftCoaster


Well look at mr. fancy stats over here.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
Do you honestly see Miller as a 5 million dollar upgrade on Lack? That is my main issue . There was not that much of a difference for that much cap space..

Edit. I do not view either one of them as a bad goalie . I think they are both just decent goalies. Lack salary justifies his performance . I didn't think Millers justified his. I do find them both capable

- VANTEL


Oh no, we spent money on a G so we could trade one for assets and have security. It's the end of the world... we needed money for a 6mil thug(Lucic) who will be in his 30's when our kids grow up and then you can freak about the fans who like the old guy.


nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Jun 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
I like Ryan Miller
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
I didn't think lack would fetch an early third and as much as I think moving him for that return was a mistake, good on Benning for getting more than I expected.

Carolina will move ward with salary retained whenever the goalie market picks up is my expectation.

Boeser at 23 is okay but I feel it is a very safe pick, likr virtanen last year, both will likely be NHLers but I have doubts about top line potential.

Brisbois, I know nothing about so it is hard for me to judge but there was some players with some high end skill still available which would of been nice.

I really like the Jasek pick and wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being the best player taken for the nucks this year.

Overall a successful draft mostly because Benning wasn't able to acquire Lucic, not looking forward to having to play against him more often but even that is better than having him sully the team I cheer for.

Wpg, Calgary, edm, all did very well and the islanders picked up two of my favorite players in barzal and beauvillier, so jealous.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:43 PM ET
The controversy is strictly from fans like you who thrive in the "end of the world" panic.

Benning is just managing his goalies. There was no need to keep Lack. It shouldnt be a controversy but you damn sure put all your effort into making it one.

- boonerbuck


The Press, GM's and occasional hockey player also contribute to the controversy/drama.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:44 PM ET
I like Ryan Miller
- nucks_94


Goalies, whatever.
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Jun 28 @ 2:44 PM ET
The Press, GM's and occasional hockey player also contribute to the controversy/drama.
- VanHockeyGuy

The problem with the press in Vancouver is that they are all a bunch of fanboys who are too emotionally attached to the team.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
The problem with the press in Vancouver is that they are all a bunch of fanboys who are too emotionally attached to the team.
- nucks_94


Big time.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 2:45 PM ET
Well look at mr. fancy stats over here.
- EagleNuck

Stick it Nucker
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 28 @ 2:46 PM ET
I like Ryan Miller
- nucks_94

(frank) him




His wife can stay though
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 2:46 PM ET
I don't care about the money, that's the difference between us. He was paid market value for a goaltender of his pedigree when the team didn't have a reliable starter. Keep in mind Lack and the team just came off one of the worst 40 game stretches in team history two years ago, that's why they signed Miller.

I wish Miller's contract was a year shorter, but whatever, with Lack gone I'm perfectly fine having him here two more years to mentor Markstrom. Having money tied up in Miller means Benning can't go out and spend it on free agency, which would prolong the slide to the bottom, so that makes me happy.

- LeftCoaster

If he was market value then it should have been a no brainer who got moved. The fact is there was zero market to trade Miller. The only team crazy enough to pay him that contract , he will be playing for next year. I imagine Benning asked Wilson in SJ if he was interested in Miller and got laughed at.

Miller was never a possibility to move.it is moot. We have our tandem .
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 28 @ 2:47 PM ET
Stick it Nucker
- LeftCoaster


No idea who that is



Luca Sbisa sucks.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 28 @ 2:47 PM ET
I like Ryan Miller
- nucks_94

I don't. But the signing made sense considering almost every player asked for a veteran goaltender after the sh*t-show that was the 'he who shall not be named' era.
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
I don't. But the signing made sense considering almost every player asked for a veteran goaltender after the sh*t-show that was the 'he who shall not be named' era.
- Marwood

Torts would have been great for the rebuild. Would love to see him coach #5
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 28 @ 2:49 PM ET
I truthfully didn't like his humour. I think he put himself out there with the image of a goof, but he still was better than the old guy. He did beat Luongo and Miller out of their starting jobs two years in a row
- VANTEL

Wasn't it Hansen that cost Miller the starting job?

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:49 PM ET
No idea who that is



*checks to see if a mod is around*

- EagleNuck


Stealthy!
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:50 PM ET
The controversy is strictly from fans like you who thrive in the "end of the world" panic.

Benning is just managing his goalies. There was no need to keep Lack. It shouldnt be a controversy but you damn sure put all your effort into making it one.

- boonerbuck


Vantel can be over the top but so are you every time someone posts that they think lack was worth keeping, your response is to belittle them and claim they are panicking, bipolar, claiming the sky is falling etc.

Time will tell if lack was worth keeping over markstrom, time will tell if Miller is worth his contract but it isn't such an absurd idea that Lack was the best goalie this season for the nucks.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:50 PM ET
I like Ryan Miller
- nucks_94


I agree with Booner. The only reason miller is on this team is because Benning needed to appease an owners demand that the canucks make the playoffs regardless of the effect it has on the rebuild process.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 28 @ 2:51 PM ET
Torts would have been great for the rebuild. Would love to see him coach #5
- EagleNuck

I thought Lefty gave you a time out, Nucker?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
The controversy is strictly from fans like you who thrive in the "end of the world" panic.

Benning is just managing his goalies. There was no need to keep Lack. It shouldnt be a controversy but you damn sure put all your effort into making it one.

- boonerbuck

If goalie controversy is strictly fans, why does the Media talk about it on the radio 100 days a year and the press write about it? Why is it brought up every third week on Hockey Night in Canada. Why was Luongo sitting on the bench during Herritage Classic looking like he was going to cry?


And the biggest question if it is only fan created, why have we moved 3 goalies in 3 years including the one with the most wins ever?
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

Jun 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
I thought Lefty gave you a time out, Nucker?
- Marwood

Who the hell is Nucker?



We should get rid of that Sbisa guy
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:53 PM ET
Vantel can be over the top but so are you every time someone posts that they think lack was worth keeping, your response is to belittle them and claim they are panicking, bipolar, claiming the sky is falling etc.

Time will tell if lack was worth keeping over markstrom, time will tell if Miller is worth his contract but it isn't such an absurd idea that Lack was the best goalie this season for the nucks.

- belcherbd


(frank) the goalies! Defence...
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