The reason Edmonton didn't get Hamilton have something to do with Chiarelli being their GM?

Who knows?

Edmonton could try to get 3rd overall with Draisaitl and get Hanifin instead.

In my mind, if one of these defensive kids is supposed to be Niedermayer, I'm going to take him. If you have the chance to take a guy who is going to be great at his position for an entire career, you have to go for it. We're going to be drafting high again next year so it's not like it's this draft or bust. Devils aren't going to be a quick flip because the talent pool is just so thin. You just can't pass up on franchise players regardless of how your organization stands.

The way we sit, we can afford to trade some of the blue line off and picks for some quality forwards. Especially with how teams are desperate to make moves at the moment. We sit in a good spot to take advantage of the market.
- Pomegrant

Exactly.

Wouldn't be shocked if mcdavid put up 60 it's for them plus 40+ from Hamilton that's a lot of fire power being added with nothing coming of your current roster. I don't even think they need a top ten goalie now that they unexpectedly added Hamilton. With mcdavid, hall, nuge, eberle, Hamilton and some core players they could easily shoot up the standings this year with their current goaltending.
- blizzzard

But hamilton went to the flames

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 45s45 seconds ago
Montreal is apparently looking at moving back from No. 26 and seeking two 2nd rounders. Could be option for Devils.

Thoughts?
I personally want to take as many prospects as we can get but, i wouldn't be opposed if someone is there that Shero likes.

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 45s45 seconds ago
Montreal is apparently looking at moving back from No. 26 and seeking two 2nd rounders. Could be option for Devils.

Thoughts?
I personally want to take as many prospects as we can get but, i wouldn't be opposed if someone is there that Shero likes.
- Rangers_Suck01

Depends who's left on the board at 26

In my mind, if one of these defensive kids is supposed to be Niedermayer, I'm going to take him. If you have the chance to take a guy who is going to be great at his position for an entire career, you have to go for it. We're going to be drafting high again next year so it's not like it's this draft or bust. Devils aren't going to be a quick flip because the talent pool is just so thin. You just can't pass up on franchise players regardless of how your organization stands.

The way we sit, we can afford to trade some of the blue line off and picks for some quality forwards. Especially with how teams are desperate to make moves at the moment. We sit in a good spot to take advantage of the market.
- Pomegrant

I think we have heard this a lot that we will be able to take advantage of the market and I don't know if we have ? I mean zids going for less then timmo when the market was good for defense was a good example. I just hope we are one of the teams who take advantage of this. I don't want us to make fly by the seat of your pants moves like the flyers but I think we need to be less hesitant to sit on our hands and do nothing then we have in the past. Bows the time to take a good calculated risk for the better. It gets a little boring when we talk about us taking risks it's on khl players who won't crack the ahl but when we have a chance to take a risk on something more interesting we don't do it. That's not even taking a risk to me lol.

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 45s45 seconds ago
Montreal is apparently looking at moving back from No. 26 and seeking two 2nd rounders. Could be option for Devils.

Thoughts?
I personally want to take as many prospects as we can get but, i wouldn't be opposed if someone is there that Shero likes.
- Rangers_Suck01

Would love another first but would really like it to be in between 15- 24ish. I don't think I would be upset though as it would be an ok risk to take look what Anaheim did with two firsts in 2003 perry at 28 or 29 so I can't flat out say no to it yet :p

I think we have heard this a lot that we will be able to take advantage of the market and I don't know if we have ? I mean zids going for less then timmo when the market was good for defense was a good example. I just hope we are one of the teams who take advantage of this. I don't want us to make fly by the seat of your pants moves like the flyers but I think we need to be less hesitant to sit on our hands and do nothing then we have in the past. Bows the time to take a good calculated risk for the better. It gets a little boring when we talk about us taking risks it's on khl players who won't crack the ahl but when we have a chance to take a risk on something more interesting we don't do it. That's not even taking a risk to me lol.
- blizzzard

Like what? And I'd say the time to take the calculated risk in maybe in 2 offseasons once we restock the forwards a bit.

Edit: And Kimmo's reputation was always going to get him more than zid.

Depends who's left on the board at 26
- Springsteen

For fun, lets say, Sprong, Boeser, Bracco, Guryanov are all available. You make the trade?

Also won't matter if they move their first for sharpe which I guess is now being reported. Amazing how quickly we get priced out of stuff lol I can't wait till the day that we are loaded to the tiits with talent like Tb lol still amazing how they turned conacher who might not play in the NHL ever again for bishop lol

Like what? And I'd say the time to take the calculated risk in maybe in 2 offseasons once we restock the forwards a bit.

Edit: And Kimmo's reputation was always going to get him more than zid.
- rmdevil313

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 45s45 seconds ago
Montreal is apparently looking at moving back from No. 26 and seeking two 2nd rounders. Could be option for Devils.

Thoughts?
I personally want to take as many prospects as we can get but, i wouldn't be opposed if someone is there that Shero likes.
- Rangers_Suck01

I wouldn't do that unless there's someone the Devils see as an exception to the rule.

Example... Nick Merkley could end up being really good, and if he's being passed over, I consider doing that.

Like what? And I'd say the time to take the calculated risk in maybe in 2 offseasons once we restock the forwards a bit.

Edit: And Kimmo's reputation was always going to get him more than zid.
- rmdevil313

What I'm saying here is we had chances to make deal. Other teams made deals while we didn't. That's what I mean. We could of taken demko in the third. The best rated goalie in that draft we could of got in the third what did we do with our third hell even our second was a waste ? We can argue how we waited to long to sell at the deadline or we could of had even more assets if we didn't just bench Ryder and havlat and played them we could of gotten something for player we never intended to play again. All I'm saying is when we do take risks they are hardly a risk a have little chance of doing anything other then giving you the right to say you did do at least something. This team hasn't been run perfectly and had unfortunate things to it. Yea unpredictable stuff happened but that doesn't mean Lou gets a pass or that outside of those things he didn't make mistakes and all I'm doing is questioning how we got where we are today.

I think we have heard this a lot that we will be able to take advantage of the market and I don't know if we have ? I mean zids going for less then timmo when the market was good for defense was a good example. I just hope we are one of the teams who take advantage of this. I don't want us to make fly by the seat of your pants moves like the flyers but I think we need to be less hesitant to sit on our hands and do nothing then we have in the past. Bows the time to take a good calculated risk for the better. It gets a little boring when we talk about us taking risks it's on khl players who won't crack the ahl but when we have a chance to take a risk on something more interesting we don't do it. That's not even taking a risk to me lol.
- blizzzard

We got draft picks for aged players who aren't going to make a huge impact going forward. This seems good for us, especially seeing that we don't have anything going for us up front. We were never going to get a bunch of 1st this draft. We don't have guys on the roster that people are going to thrown down big on either. It would be nice to get some big flashy deals done, but it's just not in the cards for us. We just need to be modest with our expectations.

I wouldn't do that unless there's someone the Devils see as an exception to the rule.

Example... Nick Merkley could end up being really good, and if he's being passed over, I consider doing that.
- archromat

Is he not older to though ? That's another thing that worries me is we will draft a player who is one of the older player in the draft ( which could be a mistake ) if two players are available with similar talent and or potential but one is a 96 birthday and the other is a 97 I take the 97 every day of the week. Older prospects look better like hannafin is like 6 months older then werenskie ( he could possibly end up as good and is younger )

We got draft picks for aged players who aren't going to make a huge impact going forward. This seems good for us, especially seeing that we don't have anything going for us up front. We were never going to get a bunch of 1st this draft. We don't have guys on the roster that people are going to thrown down big on either. It would be nice to get some big flashy deals done, but it's just not in the cards for us. We just need to be modest with our expectations.
- Pomegrant

How much more value do you think hall carries then Hamilton ? Do you think 6 ( especially if hannafin is there ) plus our two seconds is two much or two little for hall ? If he can score 40 goals immediately you have to kick the tires as even if marner fell to us it would be a couple years before he was sniffing 40 g. Obviously foolish to move hall now that you are about to land a Crosby but just dreaming do you think it costs more ? A lot more and is that a deal you think makes us better in the long run and now? Obviously we still won't make the play offs but hall plus a top ten pick next year would be better then 6 and a top ten next year no ?

the only thing I have with taking hannafin or prov is that yea they have tons of hype and look like players you would kill to have on your team right now but they are so much harder to develope. We could get hannafin at six and he might end up being as skilled as gudbranson who was picked third overall in his yea I believe. When I see barzal and think what he might be it seems more realistic he might make it because forwards usually transition a lot smoother. I guess taking a d man could be considered a huge risk since it's not our area of need and if he didn't pan out we would look like pretty big fools.

What I'm saying here is we had chances to make deal. Other teams made deals while we didn't. That's what I mean. We could of taken demko in the third. The best rated goalie in that draft we could of got in the third what did we do with our third hell even our second was a waste ? We can argue how we waited to long to sell at the deadline or we could of had even more assets if we didn't just bench Ryder and havlat and played them we could of gotten something for player we never intended to play again. All I'm saying is when we do take risks they are hardly a risk a have little chance of doing anything other then giving you the right to say you did do at least something. This team hasn't been run perfectly and had unfortunate things to it. Yea unpredictable stuff happened but that doesn't mean Lou gets a pass or that outside of those things he didn't make mistakes and all I'm doing is questioning how we got where we are today.
- blizzzard

The short answer is #9 and #17. If we had even one of them we'd be in a much different situation. You can put every other move under the microscope but no GM is perfect and the reason that some people here are focusing on these small, trivial moves is because we're a bad team for the first time in 2 decades. Losing those 2 is what made us a bad team.

How much more value do you think hall carries then Hamilton ? Do you think 6 ( especially if hannafin is there ) plus our two seconds is two much or two little for hall ? If he can score 40 goals immediately you have to kick the tires as even if marner fell to us it would be a couple years before he was sniffing 40 g. Obviously foolish to move hall now that you are about to land a Crosby but just dreaming do you think it costs more ? A lot more and is that a deal you think makes us better in the long run and now? Obviously we still won't make the play offs but hall plus a top ten pick next year would be better then 6 and a top ten next year no ?
- blizzzard

I think the price tag on Hall is going to be very high because Edmonton doesn't have to trade him. They could move anybody looking for the defensive or goaltending help they want. That's what makes it difficult.

It seems way more reasonable to trade a defenseman and the two 2nds, or the first we could get from Montreal for them, for one of the forwards we would want. I don't think we have the assets to get Hall without damaging out future moving forward.

http://m.thn.com/blog/rya...l-draft-rankings-the-120/

The short answer is #9 and #17. If we had even one of them we'd be in a much different situation. You can put every other move under the microscope but no GM is perfect and the reason that some people here are focusing on these small, trivial moves is because we're a bad team for the first time in 2 decades. Losing those 2 is what made us a bad team.
- rmdevil313

Quick who are your top three guys for our first three picks ?

How much more value do you think hall carries then Hamilton ? Do you think 6 ( especially if hannafin is there ) plus our two seconds is two much or two little for hall ? If he can score 40 goals immediately you have to kick the tires as even if marner fell to us it would be a couple years before he was sniffing 40 g. Obviously foolish to move hall now that you are about to land a Crosby but just dreaming do you think it costs more ? A lot more and is that a deal you think makes us better in the long run and now? Obviously we still won't make the play offs but hall plus a top ten pick next year would be better then 6 and a top ten next year no ?
- blizzzard

Well hamilton should have had more value than that. I'd definitely consider the 6+ for hall because hall is a better player than we'd likely get at 6. Although on second thought, Halls durability worries me. Never had a completely healthy and 3 of his 5 seasons have been <70 games.

Quick who are your top three guys for our first three picks ?
- blizzzard

Marner, Guryanov, and Sprong. Although they are all kind of reaches.

Hopefully everyone eyeing d man after the Hamilton deal. Might leave marner to us

Marner, Guryanov, and Sprong. Although they are all kind of reaches.
- rmdevil313

if that Russian is a lot more talented than his ranking then I'm ready to break the Russian crap to take him we could us a guy who shows up three years from now and is ready for prime time like kucherov or kuznetzov or terasenko lol