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blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:31 PM ET
(frank) boys an hour till tan coverage starts
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:32 PM ET
If hall became available we can not miss out how many young players like that are going to get traded out of the west ? We've seen them come out of the east so we have never been an option but we can't keep letting seguins and Hamiltons or those types of players being moved and missing on them. I would mind Schwartz if St. Louis started getting crazy not sure if our first next year and something would do it or if that would be something we would find to be worth that much. He did have almost thirty goals and sixty points in his third season could hit 70 next year ?
- blizzzard


Schwartz is great and if we could get a guy like him it would be awesome. Problem is that we don't have the best assets right now and everything is point towards building from within and signing FAs and trading them at the deadline to get some value out of them.

We need to improve at the draft table as a whole to be able to get quality players moving forward. Hard to get these expensive young players when other teams are putting up so much for players who are even worse.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:32 PM ET
After the season smith had I could see the Yotes having serious interest in rask especially for their move to Quebec lol
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:34 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZsdgUyxoGs
Here's a draft profile on Zacha, seems like a good kid, humble.

- Rangers_Suck01

Nice
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
Schwartz is great and if we could get a guy like him it would be awesome. Problem is that we don't have the best assets right now and everything is point towards building from within and signing FAs and trading them at the deadline to get some value out of them.

We need to improve at the draft table as a whole to be able to get quality players moving forward. Hard to get these expensive young players when other teams are putting up so much for players who are even worse.

- Pomegrant

I hope the new lottery set up is kind to us next year if we are in a lower position I hope we don't move down lol to somehow get first overall next year when that Matthews kid is supposed to be better then eichel and play a heavier style game.

Do you know was Boston the only team who needed to make moves today ? Why haven't other cap strapped teams started selling yet ? Was Boston in the worst cap situation in the entire league lol ?
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:37 PM ET
There's nothing wrong with us dipping in for a number 1-3 pick after the way we have run our org and the winning we have done. Most of us act likes it a crime for others to want that. I'm not condoning what Toronto did they should of be aiming for the playoffs with that roster but with the shape our roster is in now it's not the worst thing for us to want multiple first round picks or a top 1-3 pick we deserve to see that quality of player in jersey . My Toronto point was more so that it pisses me off that they are picking fourth when in my mind they should be picking a lot closer to 16. That's a piss off to me being a fan of a team so poorly stocked to see a team that is gifted with exciting players getting to dip in and grab another potential game changer now it hasn't won them much yet but I don't think a lot of their moves where foolish either minus the new blow up.
- blizzzard


Its hardly a perfect world in toronto. They still don't have a good defense and their goaltending is average at best. Their young players haven't been improving when on the roster. Their top players have friction with the media.
Rangers_Suck01
New Jersey Devils
Location: the rock, NJ
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:37 PM ET
Schwartz is great and if we could get a guy like him it would be awesome. Problem is that we don't have the best assets right now and everything is point towards building from within and signing FAs and trading them at the deadline to get some value out of them.

We need to improve at the draft table as a whole to be able to get quality players moving forward. Hard to get these expensive young players when other teams are putting up so much for players who are even worse.

- Pomegrant

Can't see Schwartz being traded out of StL, its gotta be Backes/Oshie.
Rangers_Suck01
New Jersey Devils
Location: the rock, NJ
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:38 PM ET
I hope the new lottery set up is kind to us next year if we are in a lower position I hope we don't move down lol to somehow get first overall next year when that Matthews kid is supposed to be better then eichel and play a heavier style game.

Do you know was Boston the only team who needed to make moves today ? Why haven't other cap strapped teams started selling yet ? Was Boston in the worst cap situation in the entire league lol ?

- blizzzard

Buffalo traded a first for Lehner
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:40 PM ET
Its hardly a perfect world in toronto. They still don't have a good defense and their goaltending is average at best. Their young players haven't been improving when on the roster. Their top players have friction with the media.
- rmdevil313

For sure but it's the fact that a team richer in assets then us needs to come down and grab the guys we need more desperately. I get that they failed but the process was still exciting and still carried lots of hope. When they added the kessels and jvrs they didn't expect to be where they are now. It would piss me off if Chicago made a trade to get a lower pick then us it's the fact that a team better set up then us is taking from the poor. It pisses me off that players don't sign with their drafted teams and choose every team that isn't New Jersey defeating the whole system in place to replenish bad teams lol it's just wrong. If I was the Devils social media person I would say (frank) you Toronto lol not cool
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:41 PM ET
I hope the new lottery set up is kind to us next year if we are in a lower position I hope we don't move down lol to somehow get first overall next year when that Matthews kid is supposed to be better then eichel and play a heavier style game.

Do you know was Boston the only team who needed to make moves today ? Why haven't other cap strapped teams started selling yet ? Was Boston in the worst cap situation in the entire league lol ?

- blizzzard

I just hope that this draft is as deep as they say so we can't really (frank) up with our pick. It doesn't really matter what position the player is as long as they are good. Everybody will be upset if we draft a defenseman but that just means we can trade one of the guys we have stockpiled and move into a forward. It's just about this point that we need to do well in the draft or we'll be (frank)ed for years to come.

Blackhawks have the worst cap situation but the Bruins were second. The Bruins situation is so much worse because they weren't a contender and were in cap hell. I think a lot of the moves they made today were moving towards a full rebuild but also knee jerk kind of reactions. The trades make "sense" if there is another huge trade to come, but if this is the end of them, then I think they just made a really stupid trade getting rid of Hamilton and then a good one dumping Lucic.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:41 PM ET
Buffalo traded a first for Lehner
- Rangers_Suck01

I would love another first seems more firsts are moving this year in a deep draft then compared to last year in a shallow draft.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
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Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:42 PM ET
(frank) boys an hour till tan coverage starts
- blizzzard

Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:42 PM ET
Can't see Schwartz being traded out of StL, its gotta be Backes/Oshie.
- Rangers_Suck01

I can see Oshie getting a ton of interest. Hard to see Backes traded because of the size of contract and age of player. Not many teams want a guy who has one contract left in him.
Rangers_Suck01
New Jersey Devils
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Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:46 PM ET

- shvingter88

blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:47 PM ET
I just hope that this draft is as deep as they say so we can't really (frank) up with our pick. It doesn't really matter what position the player is as long as they are good. Everybody will be upset if we draft a defenseman but that just means we can trade one of the guys we have stockpiled and move into a forward. It's just about this point that we need to do well in the draft or we'll be (frank)ed for years to come.

Blackhawks have the worst cap situation but the Bruins were second. The Bruins situation is so much worse because they weren't a contender and were in cap hell. I think a lot of the moves they made today were moving towards a full rebuild but also knee jerk kind of reactions. The trades make "sense" if there is another huge trade to come, but if this is the end of them, then I think they just made a really stupid trade getting rid of Hamilton and then a good one dumping Lucic.

- Pomegrant

Yeah I think ultimately for me if we land a guy not on my list that I'll have to see how they do against our other drafted players at camp if we get crouse and he looks like perry compared to matteau then I get happier about taking him at six but if we get him and he doesn't look like he is much different or better ( get the developmental difference and age ) then I might get cranky about the selection. As for picking a d I could get on board but why if we are just going to trade on anyways? Do you think whichever forward we look to get by trade ( if our pick is used on a d man ) will be a greater talent then what we could get at 6 at forward ?
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:47 PM ET

- shvingter88

Not literally
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:49 PM ET
How did Chia not offer more then? Hamilton is exactly what Edmonton needs.
- rmdevil313



Ciarelli offered #16 and two 2nd rounders, Boston wanted 16 plus Driasaitl. That's the word on twitter anyway.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:51 PM ET
For sure but it's the fact that a team richer in assets then us needs to come down and grab the guys we need more desperately. I get that they failed but the process was still exciting and still carried lots of hope. When they added the kessels and jvrs they didn't expect to be where they are now. It would piss me off if Chicago made a trade to get a lower pick then us it's the fact that a team better set up then us is taking from the poor. It pisses me off that players don't sign with their drafted teams and choose every team that isn't New Jersey defeating the whole system in place to replenish bad teams lol it's just wrong. If I was the Devils social media person I would say (frank) you Toronto lol not cool
- blizzzard


I guess that's where we differ. I don't care how exciting it was or how much hope there was because that means nothing in the end.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:51 PM ET
Ciarelli offered #16 and two 2nd rounders, Boston wanted 16 plus Driasaitl. That's the word on twitter anyway.
- smellmyfinger

If you just fired that guy I don't think you would want to be giving him the best deal on the table either. He arguably ruined your team lol I would of asked for even more just because I know his need and want for a d like that.
Rangers_Suck01
New Jersey Devils
Location: the rock, NJ
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:51 PM ET
Ciarelli offered #16 and two 2nd rounders, Boston wanted 16 plus Driasaitl. That's the word on twitter anyway.
- smellmyfinger

Draisatl+16 for Dougie, and you get to keep your two seconds, tempting offer.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 26 @ 5:52 PM ET
Ciarelli offered #16 and two 2nd rounders, Boston wanted 16 plus Driasaitl. That's the word on twitter anyway.
- smellmyfinger


I still would have done that if I were EDM, who cares about those assets if you were adding McDavid and Hamilton to the team.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:54 PM ET
Yeah I think ultimately for me if we land a guy not on my list that I'll have to see how they do against our other drafted players at camp if we get crouse and he looks like perry compared to matteau then I get happier about taking him at six but if we get him and he doesn't look like he is much different or better ( get the developmental difference and age ) then I might get cranky about the selection. As for picking a d I could get on board but why if we are just going to trade on anyways? Do you think whichever forward we look to get by trade ( if our pick is used on a d man ) will be a greater talent then what we could get at 6 at forward ?
- blizzzard

In my mind, if one of these defensive kids is supposed to be Niedermayer, I'm going to take him. If you have the chance to take a guy who is going to be great at his position for an entire career, you have to go for it. We're going to be drafting high again next year so it's not like it's this draft or bust. Devils aren't going to be a quick flip because the talent pool is just so thin. You just can't pass up on franchise players regardless of how your organization stands.

The way we sit, we can afford to trade some of the blue line off and picks for some quality forwards. Especially with how teams are desperate to make moves at the moment. We sit in a good spot to take advantage of the market.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:55 PM ET
I still would have done that if I were EDM, who cares about those assets if you were adding McDavid and Hamilton to the team.
- rmdevil313

Apparently the picks EDM offered were better than CGY so not sure what the Bruins are thinking.
Rangers_Suck01
New Jersey Devils
Location: the rock, NJ
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 26 @ 5:55 PM ET
I still would have done that if I were EDM, who cares about those assets if you were adding McDavid and Hamilton to the team.
- rmdevil313

Word is that it was Nurse the B's were after.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 26 @ 5:57 PM ET
I still would have done that if I were EDM, who cares about those assets if you were adding McDavid and Hamilton to the team.
- rmdevil313

Wouldn't be shocked if mcdavid put up 60 it's for them plus 40+ from Hamilton that's a lot of fire power being added with nothing coming of your current roster. I don't even think they need a top ten goalie now that they unexpectedly added Hamilton. With mcdavid, hall, nuge, eberle, Hamilton and some core players they could easily shoot up the standings this year with their current goaltending.
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