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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:46 AM ET
Just because one team overpaid doesn't mean the expectation should be everyone should now. Two 2nds for Lack would be an outstanding get in a deep draft for defensemen.
- LeftCoaster


That's the goalie market, Ottawa just set it, I'd be pissed if JB didn't at least get a mid to late first for Lack or mid-to-late 2nd for Markstrom.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Jun 26 @ 11:49 AM ET
That's the goalie market, Ottawa just set it, I'd be pissed if JB didn't at least get a mid to late first for Lack or mid-to-late 2nd for Markstrom.
- DariusKnight



Lehner is 23 and controllable for 3-4 years and upside is still pretty high. Lack is more of a known commodity, but he's 1 year away from UFA and getting a big pay increase.

I think Buffalo overpaid, but having a young goalie to grow with their team makes more sense then dealing for one that is UFA after this year
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 26 @ 11:50 AM ET
That's the goalie market, Ottawa just set it, I'd be pissed if JB didn't at least get a mid to late first for Lack or mid-to-late 2nd for Markstrom.
- DariusKnight


Agreed, Price has been set.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 26 @ 11:54 AM ET
That's the goalie market, Ottawa just set it, I'd be pissed if JB didn't at least get a mid to late first for Lack or mid-to-late 2nd for Markstrom.
- DariusKnight

Prepare to be disappointed then
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 26 @ 11:54 AM ET
That's the goalie market, Ottawa just set it, I'd be pissed if JB didn't at least get a mid to late first for Lack or mid-to-late 2nd for Markstrom.
- DariusKnight


I think you'll be pissed then. There are only so many stupid gms in the league, and Buffalo already made their move.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:54 AM ET
Lehner is 23 and controllable for 3-4 years and upside is still pretty high. Lack is more of a known commodity, but he's 1 year away from UFA and getting a big pay increase.

I think Buffalo overpaid, but having a young goalie to grow with their team makes more sense then dealing for one that is UFA after this year

- Mungo


Markstrom's not due for an increase and certainly wouldn't have cost Buffalo the 21st... wow.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 26 @ 11:57 AM ET
Markstrom's not due for an increase and certainly wouldn't have cost Buffalo the 21st... wow.
- DariusKnight

I love Markstrom's potential, but Lehner is way more proven at the NHL level than him, Buffalo IMO wanted a somewhat proven young guy....they got that in Lehner.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:57 AM ET
get the small salad
- A_SteamingLombardi


1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:58 AM ET
Prepare to be disappointed then
- LeftCoaster


uh-huh
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 26 @ 12:00 PM ET
TSN Radio Vancouver retweeted
Dhiren Mahiban ‏@dcmahiban 46s47 seconds ago
#NHLBruins F Milan Lucic confirms the #Canucks are one of 15 teams he's willing to waive his no-trade clause for.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 12:01 PM ET
I think you'll be pissed then. There are only so many stupid gms in the league, and Buffalo already made their move.
- CubanBuffet


Then I'd rather JB keep Lack and Markstrom and try and dump Miller at the TDL at this point. Lehner and Legwand for the 21st, that's nuts, and people said WE were overvaluing Lack for the 31st.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 26 @ 12:03 PM ET
get the small salad
- A_SteamingLombardi

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 26 @ 12:04 PM ET
Then I'd rather JB keep Lack and Markstrom and try and dump Miller at the TDL at this point. Lehner and Legwand for the 21st, that's nuts, and people said WE were overvaluing Lack for the 31st.
- DariusKnight

Not me.

If Werenski is still available at 9 JB will get a deal done.
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Jun 26 @ 12:05 PM ET
TSN Radio Vancouver retweeted
Dhiren Mahiban ‏@dcmahiban 46s47 seconds ago
#NHLBruins F Milan Lucic confirms the #Canucks are one of 15 teams he's willing to waive his no-trade clause for.

- Canuckleafer


15 teams, wtf man. He probably listed every team that made the playoffs last year.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 26 @ 12:06 PM ET
Then I'd rather JB keep Lack and Markstrom and try and dump Miller at the TDL at this point. Lehner and Legwand for the 21st, that's nuts, and people said WE were overvaluing Lack for the 31st.
- DariusKnight


And ironically, it was mostly Buffalo fans that were telling us that.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 12:08 PM ET
And ironically, it was mostly Buffalo fans that were telling us that.
- CubanBuffet


It'd be even more ironic if they come in here and try and sell us on Lehner being that much better than Lack.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Jun 26 @ 12:09 PM ET
Not me.

If Werenski is still available at 9 JB will get a deal done.

- thundachunk



If JB moves up to #9 i'm guessing he targets barzal. The difference between Werenski and some of the other D that would be available at 23 isn't that great IMO
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 12:12 PM ET
If JB moves up to #9 i'm guessing he targets barzal. The difference between Werenski and some of the other D that would be available at 23 isn't that great IMO
- Mungo


If he gets #9, it's likely Provorov, Barzal will be gone long before 9
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 26 @ 12:13 PM ET
If JB moves up to #9 i'm guessing he targets barzal. The difference between Werenski and some of the other D that would be available at 23 isn't that great IMO
- Mungo

Highly doubt we're getting a 9th pick for KB unless we are giving up a high level prospect, something that Benning has said he isn't willing to do.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:13 PM ET
Then I'd rather JB keep Lack and Markstrom and try and dump Miller at the TDL at this point. Lehner and Legwand for the 21st, that's nuts, and people said WE were overvaluing Lack for the 31st.
- DariusKnight


The only way they could keep all 3 would be sending Miller to the minors, as the other two wouldnt make it through waivers, in that case you would get a terrible return at the TDL because Miller would have been out of the NHL for 5 months. That would be Gillis all over again, just pull the trigger on a 2nd rounder and move on
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:14 PM ET
If he gets #9, it's likely Provorov, Barzal will be gone long before 9
- DariusKnight


Provorov will be gone way before #9.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 26 @ 12:15 PM ET
The only way they could keep all 3 would be sending Miller to the minors, as the other two wouldnt make it through waivers, in that case you would get a terrible return at the TDL because Miller would have been out of the NHL for 5 months. That would be Gillis all over again, just pull the trigger on a 2nd rounder and move on
- WhiteLie


So Miller would clear waivers, but we could trade him at the TDL???
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 26 @ 12:18 PM ET
So Miller would clear waivers, but we could trade him at the TDL???
- KB3Point0


Over the course of a season, anybody could be traded for the right situations/price. I dont think at the start of the season anyone would take him and his contract, no guarentees of either but it would be your best shot at keeping all three as per his scenario
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 26 @ 12:22 PM ET
The only way they could keep all 3 would be sending Miller to the minors, as the other two wouldnt make it through waivers, in that case you would get a terrible return at the TDL because Miller would have been out of the NHL for 5 months. That would be Gillis all over again, just pull the trigger on a 2nd rounder and move on
- WhiteLie

Markstrom is an RFA, he won't re-sign in Vancouver if both Lack & Miller are still here. Which means you lose him for nothing to Europe, that's poor asset management.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 12:23 PM ET
Here is the Master Plan:


1. Bieska and Markstrom to San Jose for 9th round pick.

2. 9th round pick plus Virtenen and Burrows to Phoenix for #3 pick and 6th pick.

3. Order 100 pizza and have them delivered to Brian Burke.

4. 6th pick to Boston for permission to talk with Lucic

5. Lucic signed an extension using the money saved from Burrows.

6. Use top 3 pick for a D man to replace Bieska.

Open a bud-light lime while eating nachos on a patio listening to Bruce Cockburn.



Done.
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