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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: 'Save Eddie Lack' Petition Launches as Trade Clock Ticks
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 12:10 AM ET
Lack for #31 works for me.
Pick the best talent with speed n skill.
Depends on who drops n what #23 is.
We don't need 3rd liners or bottom pair D.
Go for a home run is best.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:12 AM ET
27 years old 6x6
- VANTEL


Fair offer. Kind of like Chara or Big Buff, he does bring a unique skillset that's difficult to find. Plus the era of taking runs at the Sedins would instantly end if Lucic were on their line.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:14 AM ET
Like you haven't pfft. Of course I did
- VANTEL

Kes won't be happy
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:14 AM ET
Lack for #31 works for me.
Pick the best talent with speed n skill.
Depends on who drops n what #23 is.
We don't need 3rd liners or bottom pair D.
Go for a home run is best.

- Nighthawk


I'd take Kylington with the #23 and a similar home run pick at #31. Swing for the fences.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:15 AM ET
Fair offer. Kind of like Chara or Big Buff, he does bring a unique skillset that's difficult to find. Plus the era of taking runs at the Sedins would instantly end if Lucic were on their line.
- AlexF

True, he's a natural LW though
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:16 AM ET
I'd take Kylington with the #23 and a similar home run pick at #31. Swing for the fences.
- AlexF

Feel better about Kylington with an early 2nd, Zboril/Roy/Juulsen are better picks IMO.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:17 AM ET
There were big changes last season and you could see the shift. We havent even hit the draft yet let alone July 1st and training camp...

- boonerbuck


I was responding to the logic of the previous post, not issuing my prognosis of the state of the union.

In saying that, the only "big change" I saw last season was in replacing Torts with WD. It's also a big change that almost anyone in Vancouver could have recommended. The rest, though progressive, were far more minor in impact.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:18 AM ET
Feel better about Kylington with an early 2nd, Zboril/Roy/Juulsen are better picks IMO.
- Nucker101


You're assuming they fall to #23. Zboril at least will be picked before then IMO.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:19 AM ET
True, he's a natural LW though
- Nucker101


The beauty about dropping the gloves is that you generally square off at center ice.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:26 AM ET
You're assuming they fall to #23. Zboril at least will be picked before then IMO.
- AlexF

Juulsen is almost a lock to still be there. Zboril and Roy have a decent chance of being given before 23 though.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 25 @ 12:30 AM ET
The knock on him is he's a very SOFT player.
- LeftCoaster


yeah, I'd rather Lucic at 6/per
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 25 @ 12:33 AM ET
Are you sure it's Okposo? he does like to muck it up, from what I've seen (maybe not enough, though, for the franchise to sign him to any sort of significant deal)
- Zogg


A Kassian type player. Can play physical but chooses not too for stretches of time. When he's in the mood, he's effective.

I'd keep the younger and very cheaper Kassian. I'd take Okposo for a reasonable salary but not giving up younger players for him at all.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 25 @ 12:54 AM ET
I was responding to the logic of the previous post, not issuing my prognosis of the state of the union.

In saying that, the only "big change" I saw last season was in replacing Torts with WD. It's also a big change that almost anyone in Vancouver could have recommended. The rest, though progressive, were far more minor in impact.

- AlexF


He also added several pieces to our prospect system (Vey, Clendenning, Baertschi, Pedan) signed Miller (whatever you may think of him and his contract) and Vrbata (who scored 30 goals) and pushed WD to keep Horvat who outperformed any and all expectations for him.

There was big change, it just isn't the change you want (and was never going to happen because this isn't EA NHL '15 and deals aren't easy to make anymore) and that's fine, but given what he had to work with, and the directive he was under to stay competitive and make the playoffs while re-tooling, I think he's done fine.

I give him this off-season and next before I'll judge him more harshly, he needs a chance to let some of the NTCs expire or manage to convince them to move and get assets for them. I don't expect that he'll send them all packing in one or even two off-seasons/trade deadlines/etc.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 25 @ 12:55 AM ET
I'll take a 2nd for Lack any day. This is a deep draft.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html

Look how many players from this draft taken in the 2nd round and beyond are still playing effectively in the league. That 2nd round pick could easily become our #3 Dman for a decade.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 25 @ 1:01 AM ET
I'd take Kylington with the #23 and a similar home run pick at #31. Swing for the fences.
- AlexF


I'd take Kylington in a heart beat if JB picks up a couple of 2nds. If not, I think I may want to play it safer with the gap in picks to follow.

I'd like Chabot to fall a few spots to be there for the Canucks. I dont think Zboril is in reach personally. I dont want Carlos.
golfingsince
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Jun 25 @ 1:04 AM ET
I'd take Kylington in a heart beat if JB picks up a couple of 2nds. If not, I think I may want to play it safer with the gap in picks to follow.

I'd like Chabot to fall a few spots to be there for the Canucks. I dont think Zboril is in reach personally. I dont want Carlos.

- boonerbuck


I don't feel comfortable making Kylington our only D selected in the first round in a decade. Like you said maybe with a 2nd, but i'm certain there will be someone better available.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:07 AM ET
I'd take Kylington in a heart beat if JB picks up a couple of 2nds. If not, I think I may want to play it safer with the gap in picks to follow.

I'd like Chabot to fall a few spots to be there for the Canucks. I dont think Zboril is in reach personally. I dont want Carlo.

- boonerbuck


I think this is something we're all unanimous on in this forum.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jun 25 @ 1:08 AM ET
I don't feel comfortable making Kylington our only D selected in the first round in a decade. Like you said maybe with a 2nd, but i'm certain there will be someone better available.
- golfingsince

Who are you hoping they draft?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 1:10 AM ET
His boy Benning and a coach who's rep is to be easy-going will probably help a bit, especially if Benning is prepared to offer him a phat contract.
- Nucker101


One of the other sites was showing a Lucic Giants shift where he hits everything and then drops the gloves and wins a fight, I think it was against WD and he was coaching MedHat.

There are a few people on the Canucks with a Lucic history. What that means, I dunno.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 25 @ 1:11 AM ET
I'll take a 2nd for Lack any day. This is a deep draft.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2003e.html

Look how many players from this draft taken in the 2nd round and beyond are still playing effectively in the league. That 2nd round pick could easily become our #3 Dman for a decade.

- golfingsince


I feel much more confident that the 31st would land us a serviceable D than the 51st or any other late 2nd rounder but our club seems to be getting the hang of the scouting in the last couple of years so it's still a good return. I've been more or less spreading the same philosophy about trading Lack all day now.

Lack stops pucks. We have players that can stop pucks and can sign players who stop pucks. Again, signing a #1 opened up a window for future improvement though development both through the draft and time spent in the AHL for Markstrom. it's not all bad

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:14 AM ET
Who are you hoping they draft?
- Yeti1181


McDavid
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 25 @ 1:18 AM ET
I think this is something we're all unanimous on in this forum.
- AlexF


I'd take Carlo if he free fell late into the 2nd or 3rd as our 2nd D grab... if we had a 3rd... but there will be some decent forwards still available if JB picks up one of their hopeful D selections in the 1st. I'd probably be looking at best player and looking hard at LW.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:20 AM ET
I feel much more confident that the 31st would land us a serviceable D than the 51st or any other late 2nd rounder but our club seems to be getting the hang of the scouting in the last couple of years so it's still a good return. I've been more or less spreading the same philosophy about trading Lack all day now.

Lack stops pucks. We have players that can stop pucks and can sign players who stop pucks. Again, signing a #1 opened up a window for future improvement though development both through the draft and time spent in the AHL for Markstrom. it's not all bad


- boonerbuck


I might have missed this but are people really crying about trading Lack?

We need to trade a goalie, that much is clear. My only comment was I don't think the return will have a substantial impact on this organization now or in the future. The odds are against any 2nd making good but for sure the #31 in a deep draft is like a late 1st rounder so if the offer is there we should go for it.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:20 AM ET
Who are you hoping they draft?
- Yeti1181


Seriously it's such a crapshoot as to who will be available. I'd take Roy if he's available, unless Svechnikov really drops.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:23 AM ET
I'd take Carlo if he free fell late into the 2nd or 3rd as our 2nd D grab... if we had a 3rd... but there will be some decent forwards still available if JB picks up one of their hopeful D selections in the 1st. I'd probably be looking at best player and looking hard at LW.
- boonerbuck


A rumor (whatever that's worth) has DET open to trading down from their 1st round pick (#19). If we were to acquire that #31, I wonder what we could throw in to convert it to that #19.
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