Lucic for EDler?


- dbot

I look at all these line up changes that everyone here is putting and it is just really shuffling the deck and getting the same crappy hands.

I have been calling for two months to go after Lucic. That is real change. We got manhandled in the playoffs, putting Higgins on the third line instead of the second , or moving Richardson up to the third line from the fourth. These proposals are weak.

If you really want change then you have to get rid of the old and bring in the new. Lucic is definitely required on this team of Marshmellows . I hope the hell it happens.

Bring in Dillon too

Apparently the guy who startd the Lucic rumour isn't really an insider, he's famous for his OT guessing game contests on twitter but has never broken trades or signings. So him suggesting Lucic to Vancouver is the same as the guy sitting in the booth next to you in a bar saying it.


That being said, I would love to see Lucic and Miller on the same team



Lucic is a UFA next year, sign him then instead of trading Edler or Tanev for him.

Apparently the guy who startd the Lucic rumour isn't really an insider, he's famous for his OT guessing game contests on twitter but has never broken trades or signings. So him suggesting Lucic to Vancouver is the same as the guy sitting in the booth next to you in a bar saying it.


That being said, I would love to see Lucic and Miller on the same team



Lucic is a UFA next year, sign him then instead of trading Edler or Tanev for him.
- Alpha_Nuck

I think you sign him now. If Edmonton sign him and he has a great year there playing alongside of some better talent and signs long term then we blew our chance and have to face him 5 times a year or more

I think you sign him now. If Edmonton sign him and he has a great year there playing alongside of some better talent and signs long term then we blew our chance and have to face him 5 times a year or more
- VANTEL

Depends on the cost, no way I'd trade Tanev for him. If it's Edler or one of the older guys then sure. I'd assume Boston would mainly have interest in Edler and Tanev. Edler for Lucic is something I'd do if Lucic would get a contract extension, but if there's even a 15% chance that he might walk then I'd rather not trade away a signed top 4 d-man in his prime years for a potential rental.


If Benning traded Tanev for Lucic, this fanbase would turn on him quickly. Most of the smarter fans realize that Tanev is this team's most valuable d-man and quality d-men are hard to find these days, they cost a lot in trades and in salary.


I can see Aquilini pushing for Lucic. It would create a huge buzz, sell more tickets, more jerseys, etc. And he would likely become a fan favourite.

Depends on the cost, no way I'd trade Tanev for him. If it's Edler or one of the older guys then sure. I'd assume Boston would mainly have interest in Edler and Tanev. Edler for Lucic is something I'd do if Lucic would get a contract extension, but if there's even a 15% chance that he might walk then I'd rather not trade away a signed top 4 d-man in his prime years for a potential rental.


If Benning traded Tanev for Lucic, this fanbase would turn on him quickly. Most of the smarter fans realize that Tanev is this team's most valuable d-man and quality d-men are hard to find these days, they cost a lot in trades and in salary.


I can see Aquilini pushing for Lucic. It would create a huge buzz, sell more tickets, more jerseys, etc. And he would likely become a fan favourite.
- Alpha_Nuck

I would trade anybody . You get an immediate personality change.

One and a half years difference in age. I understand Tanev is a solid player. He is not a game changer. Lucic is .

Lucic for EDler?


- dbot

Please please please

Virtanen and McCann have been invited to Team Canada summer camp for Jrs

It is Tuesday and since everyone is projecting their lineup I want in on the action as well.

Sedin Sedin Kunitz

Bart Bo Hansen

Dorset Sutter Kassian

Kennins Richardson Burrows
Gaunce

Edler Tanev
Hammer Pouliot
Sbisa Clendenning
Corrado Weber

Miller
Lack

trade Vrabata+ Bonino +Markstrom for Sutter+ Kunitz+ Pouliot+ 2nd
Higgins to NYI for 2nd/3rd
KB- went hunting with Richard Chaney

We will be good enough to compete. Bad enough to miss the playoffs and sell Kunitz at TDL to highest bidder. (By then Kunitz will be credited with making Crosby better and Sedins elite) Price will be 2x 1st for Kunitz at tdl.

We get Sutter mainly so that Vantel does not get a coronary with Vey playing 3lc.

we get a future top 4 D that can slide in right now and we get a pick.

Apparently the guy who startd the Lucic rumour isn't really an insider, he's famous for his OT guessing game contests on twitter but has never broken trades or signings. So him suggesting Lucic to Vancouver is the same as the guy sitting in the booth next to you in a bar saying it.


That being said, I would love to see Lucic and Miller on the same team



Lucic is a UFA next year, sign him then instead of trading Edler or Tanev for him.
- Alpha_Nuck

Boston can have Kassian... that's it.

They're in a cap crunch... why help them out by giving them good value?!?!? Lucic is UFA after this season.... i say just wait and try to sign him after this season..... you know he has to have some kind of relationship with Benning and he is a hometown product who has in the past said that his dream is to play for the Canucks.

It is Tuesday and since everyone is projecting their lineup I want in on the action as well.

Sedin Sedin Kunitz

Bart Bo Hansen

Dorset Sutter Kassian

Kennins Richardson Burrows
Gaunce

Edler Tanev
Hammer Pouliot
Sbisa Clendenning
Corrado Weber

Miller
Lack

trade Vrabata+ Bonino +Markstrom for Sutter+ Kunitz+ Pouliot+ 2nd
Higgins to NYI for 2nd/3rd
KB- went hunting with Richard Chaney

We will be good enough to compete. Bad enough to miss the playoffs and sell Kunitz at TDL to highest bidder. (By then Kunitz will be credited with making Crosby better and Sedins elite) Price will be 2x 1st for Kunitz at tdl.

We get Sutter mainly so that Vantel does not get a coronary with Vey playing 3lc.

we get a future top 4 D that can slide in right now and we get a pick.
- Linden_4_Capt

Boston can have Kassian... that's it.

They're in a cap crunch... why help them out by giving them good value?!?!? Lucic is UFA after this season.... i say just wait and try to sign him after this season..... you know he has to have some kind of relationship with Benning and he is a hometown product who has in the past said that his dream is to play for the Canucks.
- Mungo

Lucic won't come cheap I know EDM TOR and others would be in the running

I would trade anybody . You get an immediate personality change.

One and a half years difference in age. I understand Tanev is a solid player. He is not a game changer. Lucic is .
- VANTEL

If Lucic is that valuable then Boston wouldn't be trading him. He's only 27 so even if they're re-tooling, he's young enough for them to keep.


Tanev for Lucic is a bad trade for multiple reasons. Edler for Lucic, I can get on board with, especially if Boston adds. But like others who follow this team closely, I'm not confident in Benning's hardball negotiating ability so I doubt Boston would add.

Lucic won't come cheap I know EDM TOR and others would be in the running
- VANTEL

TOR is going with a more methodical, stat-based approach with Nonis out and Lucic is overpaid according to the moneyball stats so I'd be pretty surprised to see them make a strong offer.

If Lucic is that valuable then Boston wouldn't be trading him. He's only 27 so even if they're re-tooling, he's young enough for them to keep.


Tanev for Lucic is a bad trade for multiple reasons. Edler for Lucic, I can get on board with.
- Alpha_Nuck

I understand your POV . I come from the school of thinking , a team with this roster that has won 3 playoff wins in 4 years , should not have untouchables , including back up goalies, Dmen with 2 goals and 44 hits , and young upcoming very decent players

I think you sign him now. If Edmonton sign him and he has a great year there playing alongside of some better talent and signs long term then we blew our chance and have to face him 5 times a year or more
- VANTEL

It looks like you've brought a lot of people around on Lucic, but I still don't like it. It's not that I dislike that kind of player per se, I just dislike that particular player, and it has nothing to do with his history with the Canucks or Vancouver.
While he is physically a beast, mentally he's weaker than Luongo's colon. He has come completely unraveled in Boston's last few playoff runs and hurt his team more than helped it, IMO. Combined with the fact that power forwards generally have a short shelf life and I would stay away.

I'd take my chances that Virtanen can develop into that kind of player rather than move assets for Lucic. That's just me though.

It looks like you've brought a lot of people around on Lucic, but I still don't like it. It's not that I dislike that kind of player per se, I just dislike that particular player, and it has nothing to do with his history with the Canucks or Vancouver.
While he is physically a beast, mentally he's weaker than Luongo's colon. He has come completely unraveled in Boston's last few playoff runs and hurt his team more than helped it, IMO. Combined with the fact that power forwards generally have a short shelf life and I would stay away.

I'd take my chances that Virtanen can develop into that kind of player rather than move assets for Lucic. That's just me though.
- CubanBuffet

I know he is an ass. He wasn't an ass when he played for the Giants. He would create a lt of room playing with the twins and be creating havoc in front .

Besides like they are saying on Twitter , if it happens maybe Miller will ask for a trade

I doubt LA would be trying to run the twins if he was their winger, Kesler would be less effective against Hank

I understand your POV . I come from the school of thinking , a team with this roster that has won 3 playoff wins in 4 years , should not have untouchables , including back up goalies, Dmen with 2 goals and 44 hits , and young upcoming very decent players
- VANTEL

I agree that no one should be untouchable but I'd rather not make trades that ake this team older. Who has more good years left?

Lucic at 27? Powerforwards typically go downhill once they hit 30 with injuries(usually back related) or just become too slow.

Or

Tanev at 25? I wish he was bigger or more offensive, but there's something to be said for a guy who always makes the players around him better even if it doesn't show up on the scoresheet. He's apart of the future core as much as he's apart of the current core. I view him as a Niklas Hjarlmarsson or Jonas Brodin type of player, both viewed as core players on better teams than the Canucks.


Edler is 29 so that's why I'd be fine with trading him for Lucic to make the team younger, especially since Edler already has had back issues.

I know he is an ass. He wasn't an ass when he played for the Giants. He would create a lt of room playing with the twins and be creating havoc in front .

Besides like they are saying on Twitter , if it happens maybe Miller will ask for a trade
- VANTEL

2 birds with one stone. I like it

[quote=Alpha_Nuck]I agree that no one should be untouchable but I'd rather not make trades that ake this team older. Who has more good years left?

Lucic at 27? Powerforwards typically go downhill once they hit 30 with injuries(usually back related) or just become too slow.

Or

Tanev at 25? I wish he was bigger or more offensive, but there's something to be said for a guy who always makes the players around him better even if it doesn't show up on the scoresheet. He's apart of the future core as much as he's apart of the current core. I view him as a Niklas Hjarlmarsson or Jonas Brodin type of player, both viewed as core players on better teams than the Canucks.

18 months difference between Lucic and Tanev. Hossa is a Power Forward so is Jagr they are still fine. I think Lucic can be effective until 33-35
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I agree that no one should be untouchable but I'd rather not make trades that ake this team older. Who has more good years left?

Lucic at 27? Powerforwards typically go downhill once they hit 30 with injuries(usually back related) or just become too slow.

Or

Tanev at 25? I wish he was bigger or more offensive, but there's something to be said for a guy who always makes the players around him better even if it doesn't show up on the scoresheet. He's apart of the future core as much as he's apart of the current core. I view him as a Niklas Hjarlmarsson or Jonas Brodin type of player, both viewed as core players on better teams than the Canucks.


Edler is 29 so that's why I'd be fine with trading him for Lucic to make the team younger, especially since Edler already has had back issues.
- Alpha_Nuck

18 months difference. I think he can be effective 33-35

It is Tuesday and since everyone is projecting their lineup I want in on the action as well.

Sedin Sedin Kunitz

Bart Bo Hansen

Dorset Sutter Kassian

Kennins Richardson Burrows
Gaunce

Edler Tanev
Hammer Pouliot
Sbisa Clendenning
Corrado Weber

Miller
Lack

trade Vrabata+ Bonino +Markstrom for Sutter+ Kunitz+ Pouliot+ 2nd
Higgins to NYI for 2nd/3rd
KB- went hunting with Richard Chaney

We will be good enough to compete. Bad enough to miss the playoffs and sell Kunitz at TDL to highest bidder. (By then Kunitz will be credited with making Crosby better and Sedins elite) Price will be 2x 1st for Kunitz at tdl.

We get Sutter mainly so that Vantel does not get a coronary with Vey playing 3lc.

we get a future top 4 D that can slide in right now and we get a pick.
- Linden_4_Capt

More then likely to happen if they do trade for him.

18 months difference. I think he can be effective 33-35
- VANTEL

If there is anyway we could move Edler for Lucic, it would sound better if JB was bringing in a top 4 dman in another move. And Bieksa was gone too.

If there is anyway we could move Edler for Lucic, it would sound better if JB was bringing in a top 4 dman in another move.
- hillbillydeluxe

I think that is the offer. Edler .

I am just saying there is not a Canuck player I wouldn't trade for him. I don't have any untraceable so on this roster. For the right deal everyone is available

I look at all these line up changes that everyone here is putting and it is just really shuffling the deck and getting the same crappy hands.

I have been calling for two months to go after Lucic. That is real change. We got manhandled in the playoffs, putting Higgins on the third line instead of the second , or moving Richardson up to the third line from the fourth. These proposals are weak.

If you really want change then you have to get rid of the old and bring in the new. Lucic is definitely required on this team of Marshmellows . I hope the hell it happens.

Bring in Dillon too
- VANTEL

My projected lineup is based on what I think will happen and not on what I would like to see.

With that said, I could get down with lucic for edler,with the hope that jb could resign him

My projected lineup is based on what I think will happen and not on what I would like to see.

With that said, I could get down with lucid for edler,with the hope that jb could resign him
- dbot

you mean you didn't trade for your flavour of the day?