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Alpha_Nuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.09.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:16 PM ET
Would love to see Vrbata traded for a late first and then use that money to sign Matt Beleskey. Hits like a tank, good speed and can score.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jun 23 @ 11:18 PM ET
Would love to see Vrbata traded for a late first and then use that money to sign Matt Beleskey. Hits like a tank, good speed and can score.
- Alpha_Nuck

I'd rather trade players for picks and lets the young guys step in instead.

I really really hope JV makes the Roster next year.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:19 PM ET
Low 1st, early 2nd.
- VanHockeyGuy


Early 2nd, yes. Or a good prospect.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:20 PM ET
Would love to see Vrbata traded for a late first and then use that money to sign Matt Beleskey. Hits like a tank, good speed and can score.
- Alpha_Nuck

60 points for 5 mil is good. 5 mil for 30 points isn't.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:22 PM ET
Please explain.

Or will you say something like "he's a good goalie not a great goalie".

- bloatedmosquito


I'm not saying he's a bad goalie. He's an average starter. That's it. Far from great and I don't see his upside as being much better than an average.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 23 @ 11:23 PM ET
Cloutier just called EK a joke that no one takes serious, pot meet kettle
Alpha_Nuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.09.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:23 PM ET
I'd rather trade players for picks and lets the young guys step in instead.

I really really hope JV makes the Roster next year.

- vancity787


No reason they both can't be on the team. I'd trade away Higgins and Burrows even for later picks just to move them. Hell, even retain a bit of Burrows deal if need be. Vey also should have to earn his spot, if not then he can say hello to the press box or waivers.

Time for more speed and physicality.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:23 PM ET
Didn't say he was worth a 1st.
- manvanfan


Ok.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 23 @ 11:24 PM ET
I'm not saying he's a bad goalie. He's an average starter. That's it. Far from great and I don't see his upside as being much better than an average.
- KB3Point0

Like Crawford
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:25 PM ET
If two 2nd round picks isn't enough for Talbot, then Lack is easily worth a 2nd(and not a late one).


He's our best goalie right now so it'll be tough to see him let go but hopefully Markstrom can translate his dominant AHL season over to the NHL next year.

- Alpha_Nuck


Agreed. I would also be very interested in a good prospect instead of a pick.
Alpha_Nuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.09.2014

Jun 23 @ 11:25 PM ET
60 points for 5 mil is good. 5 mil for 30 points isn't.
- manvanfan


Vrbata disappeared in the playoffs. His production also was inflated by playing with the Twins. Beleskey was important for the Ducks during the season and in the playoffs, he was good on the forecheck, made big hits and scored big goals.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:26 PM ET
There's almost zero chance he's only worth a third if Talbot is apparently worth more than two second rounder. That would mean Talbot is more than twice as valuable as Lack.
- Alpha_Nuck


Is Talbot worth two second rounders if nobody will give them that?
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:30 PM ET
Why would they hire a guy known for a methodical, stat based approach as AGM and give him the responsibility for trades if they didn't value his skills?
- belcherbd


Considering analytics does not mean you are taking a stats based approach. It just means you're expanding how you assess players.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:33 PM ET
Is Talbot worth two second rounders if nobody will give them that?
- KB3Point0


If he eventually garners 2 second rounders, he was worth that... depends where in the second round too.

How many teams have 2 second rounders in the coming draft?
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:33 PM ET
Would love to see Vrbata traded for a late first and then use that money to sign Matt Beleskey. Hits like a tank, good speed and can score.
- Alpha_Nuck


I would love to see Vrbata packaged with Sbisa for Pouliot!
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:35 PM ET
Like Crawford
- VANTEL




I'd take Crawford over Lack in a heartbeat!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:35 PM ET
Vrbata disappeared in the playoffs. His production also was inflated by playing with the Twins. Beleskey was important for the Ducks during the season and in the playoffs, he was good on the forecheck, made big hits and scored big goals.
- Alpha_Nuck

Belesky production was inflated playing with Kesler? Your describing Bryan bickell who at 4 mill is a buyout canadiate for Chicago. Derek Dorsett put up 5 less points got just over half of 5 mill, while playing 2 less minutes per game. Anything North of 4 for belesky is over paying, which he declined from anahiem.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jun 23 @ 11:36 PM ET
https://twitter.com/nine30shineshop/status/613514775981469696



- VANTEL


haha im not the only one who thinks a pro athlete should hit the (frank)ing gym
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:37 PM ET
If he eventually garners 2 second rounders, he was worth that... depends where in the second round too.

How many teams have 2 second rounders in the coming draft?

- hillbillydeluxe

Just means someone is willing to pay it. I'm guessing it was calgary.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 23 @ 11:38 PM ET
Belesky production was inflated playing with Kesler? Your describing Bryan bickell who at 4 mill is a buyout canadiate for Chicago. Derek Dorsett put up 5 less points got just over half of 5 mill, while playing 2 less minutes per game. Anything North of 4 for belesky is over paying, which he declined from anahiem.
- manvanfan


he declined 4 million per year? wait, it is still Tuesday?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 23 @ 11:39 PM ET
he declined 4 million per year? wait, it is still Tuesday?
- Zogg

Rumors is 4 for 4
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jun 23 @ 11:39 PM ET


I'd take Crawford over Lack in a heartbeat!

- KB3Point0


not at 6 million a season i wouldnt
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 23 @ 11:42 PM ET
he declined 4 million per year? wait, it is still Tuesday?
- Zogg

Someone will give him Clarkson money. 4 mil is an insult these days.

I am hoping Sbisa has a good season next year so some GM will love his contract and offer us 4 firsts
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 23 @ 11:43 PM ET

I clicked on this Best Western ad in the margin by mistake,

http://www.bestwestern.co...DISP-_-20153SUM-_-GENERAL

What is up with the woman on the left? Is she going to have some massive back problems or what? Weird pic.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 23 @ 11:44 PM ET
I clicked on this Best Western ad in the margin by mistake,

http://www.bestwestern.co...DISP-_-20153SUM-_-GENERAL

What is up with the woman on the left? Is she going to have some massive back problems or what? Weird pic.

- hillbillydeluxe

That's her hips pervert
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