I agree that I don't think that it would get it done, but the apparently Horvat and 23 were what the nucks needed to give up. I wanted mostly to see if people here valued Virtanen over Horvat.
- belcherbd

I think you'd have to be really high on JV to rank him over Horvat. I've watched both play enough for me to say that Horvat should be valued higher.

Ok, well let's say that there are multiple offer sheets with precisely the same monetary/term etc parameters. How would the ultimate recipient be determined? again, would it be a time-line issue or would it be the same way that the draft pick order is determined?
- Zogg

Player's choice.

haha exactly! why we played the sedins against edmonton ill never know...
- mauryballstein

Had we lost to Calgary during game 82 of the season, we'd be picking at #15 and they'd be selecting #23.

Ok, well let's say that there are multiple offer sheets with precisely the same monetary/term etc parameters. How would the ultimate recipient be determined? again, would it be a time-line issue or would it be the same way that the draft pick order is determined?
- Zogg

His choice. If he wants to play in EDM he signs there , just like a free agent. If he wants Columbus he signs that offer , then Boston have one week to match or let him walk

Other then Ellis, I think every D you named is 5'11" at least.

Edit spurgeon is 5'9" and a couple 5'10" Boyle listed at 5'11". Idk Im unsure.
- manvanfan

Im fairly certain a guy being 3-5 cm bigger than another guy is not the deciding factor in an nhl career. subban has been hitting the gym and will be playing at 190 or so.. now if vey would consider doing the same maybe he would be worth keeping around.

I think that is the offer. Edler .

I am just saying there is not a Canuck player I wouldn't trade for him. I don't have any untraceable so on this roster. For the right deal everyone is available
- VANTEL

There is no evidence that there is even an offer. Tough to think that we'd trade a player like Edler, with 4 years left on his deal, for Lucic with one year left. I don't see that happening. Maybe Hamhuis +

haha exactly! why we played the sedins against edmonton ill never know...
- mauryballstein

Stupid comes to mind. Those calls by management (if true) are concerning.

Perhaps at times (like now) So how tall? and don't lie! Lol
- VanHockeyGuy

5'8"

Yeah, anyone hoping for a brand new core of players next year is setting themselves up for disappointment. Realistically, the plan is to recoup a couple of draft picks by trading one of the Swedish goalies and a veteran roster player and then incorporating a little bit of more youth next year with Corrado/Clendening/Baertschi and maybe one of Virtanen or Grenier.


To me the current core assets moving forward are:
Horvat
Virtanen
McCann
Tanev
Demko
Baertschi

And then you have the vets and other prospects.
- Nucker101

I don't see Tanev as part of the long term core. Right now he is mainly out of necessity, but I could easily see a situation where he was used as trade bait.

The player chooses which offer sheet he wants to sign. Can't sign them all. Signs one. The team then has the opportunity to match it or accept the draft picks.
- manvanfan

I'm just curious if there is something in the CBA which provides clarity on this type of scenario or, as you've touched on, if it's simply up to the player to determine which sheet he signs? And if it is just up to the player, how is the return for the team being submitted the offer sheet play out (i.e. how do they calculate which picks and what rounds etc the team is to receive as compensation -other than the monetary level which corresponds to how many first, second round picks they would get back). My point is, is there something in the CBA which addresses such a situation?

5'8"
- manvanfan

I'm smart enough not to stereotype people because of their height. Doesn't matter unless you play for the Lakers.

I don't see Tanev as part of the long term core. Right now he is mainly out of necessity, but I could easily see a situation where he was used as trade bait.
- KB3Point0

He's only 25, most d-men play well until they're about 32 or so. I'd consider a 25 year old top-4 d-man as a core player.

I don't see Tanev as part of the long term core. Right now he is mainly out of necessity, but I could easily see a situation where he was used as trade bait.
- KB3Point0

NTC in 2 more years kicks in

Taj ‏@taj1944 · 34m34 minutes ago
To recap: Benning hasn't spoken with Lack's agent for over a month. Benning is trading the goalie his G coaches are telling him is the best

omarcanuck ‏@omarcanuck · 31m31 minutes ago
Woodley also says Lack wld sign at $4M with term w #Canucks which wld be tremendous value for their best goalie on the roster.

I'm just curious if there is something in the CBA which provides clarity on this type of scenario or, as you've touched on, if it's simply up to the player to determine which sheet he signs? And if it is just up to the player, how is the return for the team being submitted the offer sheet play out (i.e. how do they calculate which picks and what rounds etc the team is to receive as compensation)
- Zogg

It is outlined before every season how many picks you will be giving up depending on the cap hit.

I don't see Tanev as part of the long term core. Right now he is mainly out of necessity, but I could easily see a situation where he was used as trade bait.
- KB3Point0

I see him as one of the best D on the team, sad.

I'm just curious if there is something in the CBA which provides clarity on this type of scenario or, as you've touched on, if it's simply up to the player to determine which sheet he signs? And if it is just up to the player, how is the return for the team being submitted the offer sheet play out (i.e. how do they calculate which picks and what rounds etc the team is to receive as compensation)
- Zogg

The picks are determined by what the cap amount is per season based off a 5 year deal.

Less than $1,205,377 Nothing
$1,205,377-to-$1,826,328 Third-round pick
$1,826,328-to-$3,652,659 Second-round pick
$3,652,659-to-$5,478,986 First and third-round picks
$5,478,986-to-$7,305,316 First, second and third-round picks
$7,305,316-to-$9,131,645 Two firsts, a second and third-round picks
$9,131,645 or greater Four first-round picks

regardless of how many offersheets a player is signed, he still needs to sign it and can choose to not sign or choose to sign the offer he desires.

I'm just curious if there is something in the CBA which provides clarity on this type of scenario or, as you've touched on, if it's simply up to the player to determine which sheet he signs? And if it is just up to the player, how is the return for the team being submitted the offer sheet play out (i.e. how do they calculate which picks and what rounds etc the team is to receive as compensation)
- Zogg

RFA's don't have to sign any offersheets, it's completely up to them and they can only sign one.

To submit an offersheet, you have to own your own picks, so if you offer a RFA a contract that requires you to give up your first, second, and third. You have to have your own first, second, and third. And the other team can't request a pick you own from another team instead.

Here's this year's compensation chart:
http://www.habseyesonthep...x-galchenyuk-brandon-saad

Bieksa is listed at 6'1" and he doesn't look very big out there and can't clear the front of the net. At least Boyle looks wide.
- hillbillydeluxe

almost literally ran into Bieksa on granville a few weeks back, I am 6' and 205 ish and he really doesnt look that big in person.

Yup I say he will be better than them. Corrado is a different player but his game is fairly similar to clendening. I think subban has top 4 potential where is clendening to me is more of 5/6 guy who can run a PP.
- mauryballstein

Saw Subban in preseason last year. He is SMALL, but has great puck skills and great wheels.

Taj ‏@taj1944 · 34m34 minutes ago
To recap: Benning hasn't spoken with Lack's agent for over a month. Benning is trading the goalie his G coaches are telling him is the best

omarcanuck ‏@omarcanuck · 31m31 minutes ago
Woodley also says Lack wld sign at $4M with term w #Canucks which wld be tremendous value for their best goalie on the roster.
- hillbillydeluxe

Should we be alarmed? PS someone is lying Taj or JB?

I'm smart enough not to stereotype people because of their height. Doesn't matter unless you play for the Lakers.

- VanHockeyGuy

I never tried to have a basketball career or even hockey. I was a soccer player.

NEWS 1130 Sports ‏@NEWS1130Sports · 1h1 hour ago
The #Canucks have done the expected and qualified the contract of goalie Jacob Markstrom.

Wondering since it has been announced that Eriksson has signed with a KHL club, if the Canucks would make the minimum q/o to Eriksson just to retain his rights even though they had no intention of signing him.

Saw Subban in preseason last year. He is SMALL, but has great puck skills and great wheels.
- KB3Point0

also has that swagger when he has the puck, canucks need that.

almost literally ran into Bieksa on granville a few weeks back, I am 6' and 205 ish and he really doesnt look that big in person.
- anavar

Did you ask him if he likes SJ