Why does anyone think these players are going to take absurdly low contracts? Beauch can get at least double that, probably more.
- jfkst1

Maybe people see his age and think this way. No chance does he take that type of low ball contract. He is the same age as Paul Martin. I should have prefaced my comment that Beauchimen isn't a bad Dman, but I'd like to get a guy that is 29ish ... not 35ish.

That said, Beauchimen still has a shot from the point and can put up some points. Hell, he had over 10 goals this year in Anaheim.

Why does anyone think these players are going to take absurdly low contracts? Beauch can get at least double that, probably more.
- jfkst1

Was thinking the same thing. He just came off a 3.5M average cap hit contract. Why would he take any less than that with a new team???

Was thinking the same thing. He just came off a 3.5M average cap hit contract. Why would he take any less than that with a new team???
- cap1681

Because we have awesome weather here in Pittsburgh... it doesn't rain every other day, and definitely doesn't get extremely cold here, and in no way shape or form can the weather fluxuate 30+ degrees in the same week >_>

The report saying CHI currently asking for 1st rd pick, A-level prospect & top 6 forward on entry-level contract for Patrick Sharp.

Said on the radio here earlier that the report was possibly incorrect and that another source indicated the as was a 1st round pick OR and A level prospect OR a top 6 forward on an ELC. A lot of speculation about on JJs thread that this was the case since it came out Friday.

Regardless, Sharp's numbers dipped based on use. When he was playing 1st line minutes the numbers spiked up accordingly and he looked great back on the 1st line at the end of the POs. 3 cup wins and he is considered a leader in the Hawks room. He will be a serious asset for a young team. For Pitt he would bring a scoring winger but you already have experience (not that it's helped). Doubt you're a fit.

With Rutherford though who knows.

The report saying CHI currently asking for 1st rd pick, A-level prospect & top 6 forward on entry-level contract for Patrick Sharp.

Said on the radio here earlier that the report was possibly incorrect and that another source indicated the as was a 1st round pick OR and A level prospect OR a top 6 forward on an ELC. A lot of speculation about on JJs thread that this was the case since it came out Friday.

Regardless, Sharp's numbers dipped based on use. When he was playing 1st line minutes the numbers spiked up accordingly and he looked great back on the 1st line at the end of the POs. 3 cup wins and he is considered a leader in the Hawks room. He will be a serious asset for a young team. For Pitt he would bring a scoring winger but you already have experience (not that it's helped). Doubt you're a fit.

With Rutherford though who knows.
- tredbrta

Ok... so, 1st round pick, A level prospect, or a young on ELC... that sounds a lot more reasonable. Thank you... still no on him regardless.

Was thinking the same thing. He just came off a 3.5M average cap hit contract. Why would he take any less than that with a new team???
- cap1681

It happens all the time with every fan base every single off-season. Maybe one out of the dozens of these UFAs will take a contract well below market value. But 99% won't be doing that.

Hoping the imminent Sutter trade rumor is him going to San Jose in a package for Brent Burns. San Jose will be trading away Thornton at some point this offseason and Sutter could compete with Hertl for the 2C spot.

Backlund (3rd line C), Soderberg and Atkinson. Sounds like reasonable pickups.

Why does anyone think these players are going to take absurdly low contracts? Beauch can get at least double that, probably more.
- jfkst1

No kidding. Petry makes $5.5M but Beauchemin will sign for $2M. Yeah I don't think so.

As for Sharp or Kessel to the Penguins I just don't see it. While I don't fully agree with the issue with their contracts as Perron, Kunitz, and Dupuis make just under $4M, Hornqvist just over $4M so a top line player, especially Sharp is more than possible especially considering you would have a 1st line scorer to pair with Crosby rather than having Crosby carry his line in his shoulders.

The issue though is the price. Chicago is high if they think they are getting that return. But even with something more fair would moving their 2016 1st so they have no picks in the top 60, a young excellent player like Pouliot and another prospect or one of those $4M wingers really worth it?

Can't see it happening but maybe they want another elite player to match Chicago's depth and make a run for a dynasty. Never know but I doubt it.

Why does anyone think these players are going to take absurdly low contracts? Beauch can get at least double that, probably more.
- jfkst1

July 1st last year Boyle signed 1 year/4.5 mill, Robidas signed 3 year/3 mill per, Erhoff signed 1 year/4 mill, weaver signed 1 year/1.75 per.

Maybe I was a million off but I don't see why 2 years 2-3 mill per is "absurdly low" or crazy. Point was I think he is a nice back up to Franson.

July 1st last year Boyle signed 1 year/4.5 mill, Robidas signed 3 year/3 mill per, Erhoff signed 1 year/4 mill, weaver signed 1 year/1.75 per.

Maybe I was a million off but I don't see why 2 years 2-3 mill per is "absurdly low" or crazy. Point was I think he is a nice back up to Franson.
- stowerkraut

$2 million/year on a short term contract is AT LEAST half of what Beauchemin could earn. I'll bet he could get a one year $5 million dollar contract if he wanted it.

$2 million/year on a short term contract is AT LEAST half of what Beauchmin could earn. I'll bet he could get a one year $5 million dollar contract if he wanted it.
- jfkst1

Yeah,

Beauchmin's play hasn't declined, so i could see him 3.5M at the very least. More likely 4-4.5M

$2 million/year on a short term contract is AT LEAST half of what Beauchmin could earn. I'll bet he could get a one year $5 million dollar contract if he wanted it.
- jfkst1

I get it... if a cap floor team wants him he will get paid but, I don't think it's a stretch for a 35 year old with one cup to go to a contender for less. Pretty sure that happens time to time. He rotted away a few good years in TOR and most likely enjoyed the success in ANA. He may want to continue the success. (as bleak as that is in PIT)

I get it... if a cap floor team wants him he will get paid but, I don't think it's a stretch for a 35 year old with one cup to go to a contender for less. Pretty sure that happens time to time. He rotted away a few good years in TOR and most likely enjoyed the success in ANA. He may want to continue the success. (as bleak as that is in PIT)
- stowerkraut

Then he could almost certainly continue that success on the same team he played on this year for a slight raise on a short-term deal. He played well and is not viewed as a problem whatsoever.

The report saying CHI currently asking for 1st rd pick, A-level prospect & top 6 forward on entry-level contract for Patrick Sharp.

Said on the radio here earlier that the report was possibly incorrect and that another source indicated the as was a 1st round pick OR and A level prospect OR a top 6 forward on an ELC. A lot of speculation about on JJs thread that this was the case since it came out Friday.

Regardless, Sharp's numbers dipped based on use. When he was playing 1st line minutes the numbers spiked up accordingly and he looked great back on the 1st line at the end of the POs. 3 cup wins and he is considered a leader in the Hawks room. He will be a serious asset for a young team. For Pitt he would bring a scoring winger but you already have experience (not that it's helped). Doubt you're a fit.

With Rutherford though who knows.
- tredbrta

To me, we already have Sharp on the roster. He is two years older, but 2.05 million cheaper. This guy has two Cups and has scored 30 goals per year before, like Sharp. Sharp isn't a fit IMO.

Only person i'm trading Pouliot for on STLs roster is Schwartz.
- cap1681

No Tarasenko? Or Pietrangelo? Shatt?

Quote a greats not working (and I'm on page one) but if the price for Oshie was Bennett and Dumo or Harrington I'd definitely do that provided there was a conditional pick based on signing him to an extension. Don't think he'd qualify as Malkin's main wing, but excellent 2 way player.

If the plan for St. Louis is to move Stastny to Oshie's spot, wonder if they'd have any interest in Sutter?

Maybe people see his age and think this way. No chance does he take that type of low ball contract. He is the same age as Paul Martin. I should have prefaced my comment that Beauchimen isn't a bad Dman, but I'd like to get a guy that is 29ish ... not 35ish.

That said, Beauchimen still has a shot from the point and can put up some points. Hell, he had over 10 goals this year in Anaheim.
- Oneonta Penguin

Beauchemin is another guy I like as well. I don't mind the age, he plays a solid game and can chew up minutes. He'd be excellent for the young guys to learn from. Note, in my previous post(s) I forgot about Cole who I think should be retained to play #6. I am OK with trading Scuderi (if he waives/etc), but I think buying him out doesn't make cap sense.

Letang - Maatta
Pouliot - Beauchemin/Hejda/Oduya/Jackman
Demoulin - Cole
Scuderi (if he can be dealt, then Chorney)

Then he could almost certainly continue that success on the same team he played on this year for a slight raise on a short-term deal. He played well and is not viewed as a problem whatsoever.
- jfkst1

True.... Unless that team didn't have younger, more talented Dmen to pay. Say ones they were handed thru highway robbery trades with old, confused GM's.

No Tarasenko? Or Pietrangelo? Shatt?
- MyKillJackedSon

Tarasenko just seems untouchable, so wasn't including him. No on the other two, because Pouliot will be as good as both of them, and the Penguins need top 6. Schwartz is a legitimate top 6 scoring winger, and at 22, has his best years ahead of him.

True.... Unless that team didn't have younger, more talented Dmen to pay. Say ones they were handed thru highway robbery trades with old, confused GM's.
- stowerkraut

ANA has a ton of cap space and Despres isn't going to be getting big money as an RFA. It's inconsequential. But yes, if anyone was defending the Despres trade earlier, now that we are in the offseason and Despres' trade value isn't with the team, we are seeing why it was such a bad trade to begin with. I firmly believe Sutter+Despres could have gotten a top 6 winger alone.

A Hornqvist - Crosby - Kessel line would be game over for the Eastern Conference lol

A Hornqvist - Crosby - Kessel line would be game over for the Eastern Conference lol
- thehockeygod

And the trade would be game over for the Penguin's future as Dubas would clean out what few assets remain.

ANA has a ton of cap space and Despres isn't going to be getting big money as an RFA. It's inconsequential. But yes, if anyone was defending the Despres trade earlier, now that we are in the offseason and Despres' trade value isn't with the team, we are seeing why it was such a bad trade to begin with. I firmly believe Sutter+Despres could have gotten a top 6 winger alone.
- jfkst1

I just looked and they are going to get hit big time. Getzlaf and Perry increases, they will have to bridge Silferberg, Etem, Vatanen, Lindholm. And extend fowler from 4 mil per to ????

Good "problems" to have I suppose.

No doubt about the Despres trade. That's been well documented.

Lets go left field here.

Sutter+ 2015 3rd.
For
Lupul.

Lupul will stay healthy and not be able to hangout with Phaneuf's wife while injured. "He promises" of course.

Kunitz Crosby Lupul
Perron Malkin Hornqvist
???